Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
I am not sure how long the Vet Jet has been around, at least a couple of years. I am hoping that where we are now in NH I can find a clinic that uses it. My 14 year old neg still gets the FeLV vaccine even though she is highly unlikely to get FeLV from Maggie as it is still possible. I think it is great that you are thinking about taking in more FeLV babies. It is still very tough to find them homes and in most shelters and clinics they are still unfairly destroyed. Whatever you decide remember it's the quality of the years of their lives and not the quantity. Good luck, Tanya --- On Wed, 3/30/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 1:12 AM Hadn't heard about the vet jet. I'll have to ask about it. Because I didn't know the one cat had the virus until she died a few weeks ago most of my cats have lived with her and shared food bowls for at least a year and some were with her for almost two years. One vet was kind of saying that if they hadn't gotten the virus by now they probably wouldn't get it so there wouldn't be a need to vaccinate any of my others. I don't know if he's right or not about not vaccinating the negatives. I've just been tossing that idea around. But then someone was asking me about these FeLV + kittens and it got me to thinking about whether I should vaccinate if a new member was added. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:49:28 -0700 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself I think that they are immune for life if they get and extinguish the virus. I do not believe that it is a mutating virus of any sort, at least not so far. The problem is you have no way of knowing for sure that you cat did this unless it was positive and is now negative. Cats develop some natural immunity with age, it is possible to live together for years and not contract it even with repeated exposures. If you are concerned about vaccine related sarcomas there are FeLv vaccines that are given by the vet jet that is considered much safer, that is what we were using at the last vet hospital I worked at. Good luck, Tanya --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
[Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
I think that they are immune for life if they get and extinguish the virus. I do not believe that it is a mutating virus of any sort, at least not so far. The problem is you have no way of knowing for sure that you cat did this unless it was positive and is now negative. Cats develop some natural immunity with age, it is possible to live together for years and not contract it even with repeated exposures. If you are concerned about vaccine related sarcomas there are FeLv vaccines that are given by the vet jet that is considered much safer, that is what we were using at the last vet hospital I worked at. Good luck, Tanya --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
Maureen, I don't have links to the science to answer your question. I do know there are at least 3 versions of FeLV. Personally I wouldn't take the chance of mixing without 1st vaccinating any negatives in the house. I have mixed negatives and positives but my negatives were always current on their vaccine. Sharyl --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olive molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
My vet says I sould keep my negatives up to date on their felv vaccinations. It has been over 2 years now since I got my first felv pos baby and all are well, especially the felv pos ones. They are the sleekest, most energetic ones in the bunch. Annie especially has the shiniest fur and the vet marvels at her and Nitnoy. Nit is especially lucky as she had a run in with a raccoon and lost most of her tail. Even with that trauma, she is doing well. Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Maureen, I don't have links to the science to answer your question. I do know there are at least 3 versions of FeLV. Personally I wouldn't take the chance of mixing without 1st vaccinating any negatives in the house. I have mixed negatives and positives but my negatives were always current on their vaccine. Sharyl --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olive molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
Hadn't heard about the vet jet. I'll have to ask about it. Because I didn't know the one cat had the virus until she died a few weeks ago most of my cats have lived with her and shared food bowls for at least a year and some were with her for almost two years. One vet was kind of saying that if they hadn't gotten the virus by now they probably wouldn't get it so there wouldn't be a need to vaccinate any of my others. I don't know if he's right or not about not vaccinating the negatives. I've just been tossing that idea around. But then someone was asking me about these FeLV + kittens and it got me to thinking about whether I should vaccinate if a new member was added. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:49:28 -0700 From: sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself I think that they are immune for life if they get and extinguish the virus. I do not believe that it is a mutating virus of any sort, at least not so far. The problem is you have no way of knowing for sure that you cat did this unless it was positive and is now negative. Cats develop some natural immunity with age, it is possible to live together for years and not contract it even with repeated exposures. If you are concerned about vaccine related sarcomas there are FeLv vaccines that are given by the vet jet that is considered much safer, that is what we were using at the last vet hospital I worked at. Good luck, Tanya --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself
Figures the virus would mutate. My husband and I were talking and thinking that the vaccine probably helps the cat develop antibodies to one general form of the virus so even if a different form or mutation of the virus is introduced into the system the antibodies created from the general form of the virus would be strong enough to combat the mutated form as well. Make sense? So in theory it would work if the cat got the virus and extinguished it the same way as if the cat were vaccinated. However, I think all you guys might be right. Just vaccinate the negatives before introducing another positive just to be safe. To assume that my cats that test negative now have contacted the virus and extinguished it (just because they lived with the FeLV + kitty for two years) might be taking a big risk. Even though the cats were together two years maybe for some reason they never got enough of the virus into their system for their bodies immune system to have to respond. So then they really don't have immunity in their system. I guess it's not worth taking the risk. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:00:31 -0700 From: cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself Maureen, I don't have links to the science to answer your question. I do know there are at least 3 versions of FeLV. Personally I wouldn't take the chance of mixing without 1st vaccinating any negatives in the house. I have mixed negatives and positives but my negatives were always current on their vaccine. Sharyl --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Maureen Olive molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about the virus itself To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:30 PM I've got a question about the FeLV virus itself. Is it all the same virus or does it mutate and change like the herpes virus that causes URI? What I'm wondering is that if I've got a cat that has been exposed to the virus but extinguished it, is he immune for life? Seems like I read that. So if I brought in another FeLV + kitty and my resident cat has already gotten some immunity from the virus he had been exposed to in the past, does that mean being exposed to the virus through another cat would be the same as the virus that he was first exposed to so his immunity would work against that virus? Does that make sense? I'm wondering if I brought in another FeLV + cat would I need to vaccinate my cat that has already been exposed and extinguished the virus. Anyone have a clue? I guess the main question is if the virus mutates from cat to cat or is it always the same virus and doesn't change. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
