[Felvtalk] Doxy
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Hi Amani. Thanks for the article. Sounds promising. Jane - Original Message - From: Amani Oakley To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy Hi Jane As I mentioned in my previous posts, I am aware that no antibiotic KILLS viruses. However, Doxycycline also interferes with RNA reproduction in ALL cells. In mammalian cells, we have two sites for RNA synthesis, and so when the Doxycycline blocks one of the sites, mammalian cells can still proceed with RNA synthesis. That isn't the case with bacterial, and other organisms like protozoa and mycoplasma. Doxycycline has been also found to block RNA synthesis in some viruses. For example, search online for the following article and you will see that scientific trials have shown that the Doxycycline (which is a tetracycline derivative) blocked the ability of the virus to enter cells and replicate. Inhibitory effect of doxycycline against dengue virus replication in vitro - Arch Virol. May 29, 2013 - "Doxycycline is an antibiotic derived from tetracycline that possesses antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory activities. Antiviral activity of doxycycline against dengue virus has been previously reported." ". . . It is efficiently used to treat some tick-borne infections and is also recommended as a first line therapy for sexually transmitted diseases as herpes simplex infections [caused by a virus]. Combining doxycycline with monocaprin provides an effective treatment for herpes labialis [another virus], significantly reducing time to healing and pain compared to moncaprin alone. Furthermore, antiviral activity of doxycycline has been reported against retroviruses, and a significant reduction in retrovirus titer was observed after incubation of infected cells with doxycycline. Previous studies have shown that doxycycline inhibits dengue virus plaque formation disrupting the conformational changes in the viral envelope that are necessary for viral entry . . . In this study, we determined the anti-dengue properties of doxycycline against four dengue virus serotypes in vitro. The results showed that doxycycline interfered with dengue virus protease and impaired virus binding to the host cells, leading to reduced viral replication in infected cells. Taken together, our results form a strong basis to warrant further experimental and clinical investigations towards reducing dengue morbidity by utilizing doxycycline and anti-inflammatory activities." With some careful digging, you will find references to the use of doxycycline (and other tetracyclines) to inhibit viral replication. I don't have more time today to find more of these articles for you, but they are there for the finding. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Gannon Sent: May-17-16 4:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral infections. It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the bacteria preventing them from reproducing and allowing the body to fight off the infection. It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved. This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats. Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting. It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow. I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script This includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and others. This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats. She has alot of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be found on line. I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking. She had vomited for a couple of days before. She had no fever and no symptoms of upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get her to eat. Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie. Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her. This is also used for kidney
Re: [Felvtalk] doxy
Hi Margo You do not mix the fish drugs with water unless you are using them for fish. For cats, you would use the pill form. Just trying to help. thanks for the article on doxy. Jane - Original Message - From: Amani Oakley To: Margo ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy Hi Margo – I just sent a far more detailed email before I saw yours. It references a scientific study on this very issue – use of doxycycline in dengue fever, but also references use of it in other viral infections caused by herpes. As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I was well aware that antibiotics obviously don’t usually work on viruses, but the tetracyclines are special. They don’t KILL viruses, but instead, help to block their replication. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo Sent: May-17-16 5:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being used in some trials for HIV. So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might find this interesting; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979 I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just my paranoia, I know people who have used them successfully many times. HTH, Margo -Original Message- From: Jane Gannon Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral infections. It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the bacteria preventing them from reproducing and allowing the body to fight off the infection. It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved. This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats. Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting. It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow. I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script This includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and others. This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats. She has alot of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be found on line. I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking. She had vomited for a couple of days before. She had no fever and no symptoms of upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get her to eat. Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie. Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her. This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness. She is not eating well and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of days and was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works. Jane Virus-free. www.avast.com -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Amani when are you getting your cancer kitty? I am so sad we can't do pictures here. I want to see everyone and their babies! Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Amani Oakley <aoak...@oakleylegal.com> wrote: > > Hi Margo – I just sent a far more detailed email before I saw yours. It > references a scientific study on this very issue – use of doxycycline in > dengue fever, but also references use of it in other viral infections caused > by herpes. > > As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I was well aware that antibiotics > obviously don’t usually work on viruses, but the tetracyclines are special. > They don’t KILL viruses, but instead, help to block their replication. > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo > Sent: May-17-16 5:23 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy > > > > Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties > that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being > used in some trials for HIV. > > So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might > find this interesting; > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979 > > I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid > to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. > Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just my paranoia, I know people who have > used them successfully many times. > > HTH, > > Margo > > -Original Message- > From: Jane Gannon > Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy > > > Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral > infections. It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the > bacteria preventing them from reproducing and allowing the body to fight off > the infection. It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma > haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats > I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved. > This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products > on our cats. Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce > chance of vomiting. It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after > pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the > esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult > for your cat to swallow. I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. > > In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the > cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats > and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script This > includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), > clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and > others. This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats. She has alot > of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can > be found on line. > > I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking. She had > vomited for a couple of days before. She had no fever and no symptoms of > upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing > to get her to eat. Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years > ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on > Tootsie. Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I > give her. This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. > > Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is > recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness. She is not eating well > and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of > days and was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works. > > Jane > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Jane As I mentioned in my previous posts, I am aware that no antibiotic KILLS viruses. However, Doxycycline also interferes with RNA reproduction in ALL cells. In mammalian cells, we have two sites for RNA synthesis, and so when the Doxycycline blocks one of the sites, mammalian cells can still proceed with RNA synthesis. That isn't the case with bacterial, and other organisms like protozoa and mycoplasma. Doxycycline has been also found to block RNA synthesis in some viruses. For example, search online for the following article and you will see that scientific trials have shown that the Doxycycline (which is a tetracycline derivative) blocked the ability of the virus to enter cells and replicate. Inhibitory effect of doxycycline against dengue virus replication in vitro - Arch Virol. May 29, 2013 - "Doxycycline is an antibiotic derived from tetracycline that possesses antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory activities. Antiviral activity of doxycycline against dengue virus has been previously reported." ". . . It is efficiently used to treat some tick-borne infections and is also recommended as a first line therapy for sexually transmitted diseases as herpes simplex infections [caused by a virus]. Combining doxycycline with monocaprin provides an effective treatment for herpes labialis [another virus], significantly reducing time to healing and pain compared to moncaprin alone. Furthermore, antiviral activity of doxycycline has been reported against retroviruses, and a significant reduction in retrovirus titer was observed after incubation of infected cells with doxycycline. Previous studies have shown that doxycycline inhibits dengue virus plaque formation disrupting the conformational changes in the viral envelope that are necessary for viral entry . . . In this study, we determined the anti-dengue properties of doxycycline against four dengue virus serotypes in vitro. The results showed that doxycycline interfered with dengue virus protease and impaired virus binding to the host cells, leading to reduced viral replication in infected cells. Taken together, our results form a strong basis to warrant further experimental and clinical investigations towards reducing dengue morbidity by utilizing doxycycline and anti-inflammatory activities." With some careful digging, you will find references to the use of doxycycline (and other tetracyclines) to inhibit viral replication. I don't have more time today to find more of these articles for you, but they are there for the finding. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Gannon Sent: May-17-16 4:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral infections. It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the bacteria preventing them from reproducing and allowing the body to fight off the infection. It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved. This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats. Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting. It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow. I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script This includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and others. This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats. She has alot of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be found on line. I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking. She had vomited for a couple of days before. She had no fever and no symptoms of upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get her to eat. Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie. Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her. This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness. She is not eating well and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of days and was
Re: [Felvtalk] doxy
Hi Margo – I just sent a far more detailed email before I saw yours. It references a scientific study on this very issue – use of doxycycline in dengue fever, but also references use of it in other viral infections caused by herpes. As I mentioned in my earlier emails, I was well aware that antibiotics obviously don’t usually work on viruses, but the tetracyclines are special. They don’t KILL viruses, but instead, help to block their replication. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo Sent: May-17-16 5:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] doxy Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being used in some trials for HIV. So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might find this interesting; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979 I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just my paranoia, I know people who have used them successfully many times. HTH, Margo -Original Message- From: Jane Gannon Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral infections. It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the bacteria preventing them from reproducing and allowing the body to fight off the infection. It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved. This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats. Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting. It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow. I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script This includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and others. This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats. She has alot of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be found on line. I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking. She had vomited for a couple of days before. She had no fever and no symptoms of upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get her to eat. Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie. Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her. This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness. She is not eating well and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of days and was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works. Jane [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/2016/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-v1.png]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Actually, you're both right. Doxy is an antibiotic, but also has properties that prevent replication of the virus that cause dengue fever, and is being used in some trials for HIV. So, anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and now possibly anti-viral. You might find this interesting;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9922979I've used the "fish drugs" in a pinch, but they need to be made into a liquid to get correct distribution and dosage, and I do better with pills/capsules. Plus, I don't quite trust them . Just my paranoia, I know people who have used them successfully many times.HTH,Margo-Original Message- From: Jane Gannon <strayc...@roadrunner.com> Sent: May 17, 2016 4:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] doxy Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral infections. It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the bacteria preventing them from reproducing and allowing the body to fight off the infection. It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved. This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats. Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting. It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow. I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script This includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and others. This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats. She has alot of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be found on line. I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking. She had vomited for a couple of days before. She had no fever and no symptoms of upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get her to eat. Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie. Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her. This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness. She is not eating well and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of days and was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works. Jane Virus-free. www.avast.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] doxy
Doxycycline ia an antibiotic for bacterial infections, not for viral infections. It works by interferring with the normal growth cycle of the bacteria preventing them from reproducing and allowing the body to fight off the infection. It is used against mycoplasma including mycoplasma haemofelis, whcih is a blood parasite that causes anemia and death in cats I have had a couple of cats die from it and a couple that I have saved. This disease is transmitted by fleas so it is important to use flea products on our cats. Doxy should be given with food or on a full stomach to reduce chance of vomiting. It is suggested that you give a syringe of water after pilling because it is possible for the tablets to become stuck in the esophagus which can cause irritaftion or scarring and can make it difficult for your cat to swallow. I crush it and mix it with water and syringe it. In the book "Secrets of a vet tech-the guide to low cost pet care when the cupboard is bare" by J C Farris, she tells that you can use fish meds on cats and purchase them on line or in some pet stores without a script This includes doxy (fish doxy), amoxicillan (fish mox), metronidazole (fish zole), clindamycin (fish cin), cephalexen (fish flex), ciprofloxacin (fish flox) and others. This is the same exact medication for dogs and cats. She has alot of other great ideas in this book. Dosages for these medications for cats can be found on line. I just had my 5 yr old positive, Tootsie, stop eating and drinking. She had vomited for a couple of days before. She had no fever and no symptoms of upper respiratory so I didn't want to start antibiotics. I tried everytlhing to get her to eat. Then I remembered pepcid ac was prescribed by a vet years ago for another cat (not a positive) with the same symptoms, so I tried it on Tootsie. Four days later she is looking for food and eating everything I give her. This is also used for kidney cats that loose their appetite. Now I am going to try pepcid ac on my older positive cat, Finn, who is recovering from a seizure and temporary blindness. She is not eating well and I remember before she had her seizure she had vomited for a couple of days and was already not eating well. I will let you know if it works. Jane --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Amanda The bird biotic is doxycycline hyclate and it's only good for 72 hours after its mixed up. I think the monohydrate lasts much longer. But that's ok as long as you mark your bottle with the date that it was mixed. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net wrote: Marcia, thanks for both suggestions. Yes, L-Form Bacteriaseems to be what they were describing. Some round, others blown-up, and some hairy. The Marshall Plan might be viable, if only I could find a clear-cut explanation of it. I'm guessing it's a thorough approach using all fresh food, no glutens, etc. I'm interested in colliodal silver, although it sounds good in the petri-dish, I'm not so sure it'd be good for a cat. Anyone else using it? What's the dosage? Ah - and the bird stuff? Awesome. They also have sulfas and all forms of antibiotics available, it's just they're for the birds. *chuckle* I still have some fish-erythro that I purchased over a year ago, before they started yanking them off the pet store walls. It seems too many people figured it out. Glad they haven't gotten wind of the bird stuff. I'm going to stock up. Sulfa powder is exceptional for little scrapes that kitties get on legs and paws, and it's good for humans, too. Saved my hand after I was bitten by a german shepherd pup. Thank you for your incredible kindness! Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net - Original Message - From: Marcia To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent Advice Needed I don't know why your veterinarian did that. It's always been my understanding that tetracyclines are the only treatment for mycoplasma. I'd google the hell out of that one. And I'm very sorry. I'd either get another vet or get my own Doxycycline, Bird Biotic by Thomas Labs. Very sorry for your loss, Marcia Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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And how about some immune system builders, like colostrum, etc. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net wrote: Marcia, thanks for both suggestions. Yes, L-Form Bacteriaseems to be what they were describing. Some round, others blown-up, and some hairy. The Marshall Plan might be viable, if only I could find a clear-cut explanation of it. I'm guessing it's a thorough approach using all fresh food, no glutens, etc. I'm interested in colliodal silver, although it sounds good in the petri-dish, I'm not so sure it'd be good for a cat. Anyone else using it? What's the dosage? Ah - and the bird stuff? Awesome. They also have sulfas and all forms of antibiotics available, it's just they're for the birds. *chuckle* I still have some fish-erythro that I purchased over a year ago, before they started yanking them off the pet store walls. It seems too many people figured it out. Glad they haven't gotten wind of the bird stuff. I'm going to stock up. Sulfa powder is exceptional for little scrapes that kitties get on legs and paws, and it's good for humans, too. Saved my hand after I was bitten by a german shepherd pup. Thank you for your incredible kindness! Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net - Original Message - From: Marcia To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent Advice Needed I don't know why your veterinarian did that. It's always been my understanding that tetracyclines are the only treatment for mycoplasma. I'd google the hell out of that one. And I'm very sorry. I'd either get another vet or get my own Doxycycline, Bird Biotic by Thomas Labs. Very sorry for your loss, Marcia Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I use colostrum for a lot of the ferals (get it from a farm store for calves). I can't know if it helps but these guys have lived a lot longer than most ferals. On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Marcia Baronda wrote: And how about some immune system builders, like colostrum, etc. Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net wrote: Marcia, thanks for both suggestions. Yes, L-Form Bacteriaseems to be what they were describing. Some round, others blown-up, and some hairy. The Marshall Plan might be viable, if only I could find a clear-cut explanation of it. I'm guessing it's a thorough approach using all fresh food, no glutens, etc. I'm interested in colliodal silver, although it sounds good in the petri-dish, I'm not so sure it'd be good for a cat. Anyone else using it? What's the dosage? Ah - and the bird stuff? Awesome. They also have sulfas and all forms of antibiotics available, it's just they're for the birds. *chuckle* I still have some fish-erythro that I purchased over a year ago, before they started yanking them off the pet store walls. It seems too many people figured it out. Glad they haven't gotten wind of the bird stuff. I'm going to stock up. Sulfa powder is exceptional for little scrapes that kitties get on legs and paws, and it's good for humans, too. Saved my hand after I was bitten by a german shepherd pup. Thank you for your incredible kindness! Amanda Vollaro avoll...@optonline.net - Original Message - From: Marcia To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent Advice Needed I don't know why your veterinarian did that. It's always been my understanding that tetracyclines are the only treatment for mycoplasma. I'd google the hell out of that one. And I'm very sorry. I'd either get another vet or get my own Doxycycline, Bird Biotic by Thomas Labs. Very sorry for your loss, Marcia Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
