Re: Asia
Catching up on my posts Dianne-yea for Asia!!! I hope March finds her doing well. :) Wendy --- Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: Asia
I think I missed this too! Ditto! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did I miss this??!? That is great news! elizabeth On 2/3/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that IS wonderful news! Go Asia! tonya *Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *CONGRATULATIONS!! What wonderful news for you and for Asia!!! * *We can always use a shot of good news! Thanks for sharing!!* *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/23/07, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
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Yes that IS wonderful news! Go Asia! tonya Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CONGRATULATIONS!! What wonderful news for you and for Asia!!! We can always use a shot of good news! Thanks for sharing!! Leslie =^..^= On 1/23/07, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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How did I miss this??!? That is great news! elizabeth On 2/3/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that IS wonderful news! Go Asia! tonya *Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *CONGRATULATIONS!! What wonderful news for you and for Asia!!! * *We can always use a shot of good news! Thanks for sharing!!* *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/23/07, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Wonderful news! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto Dianne! Nina Leslie Lawther wrote: CONGRATULATIONS!! What wonderful news for you and for Asia!!! We can always use a shot of good news! Thanks for sharing!! Leslie =^..^= On 1/23/07, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
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Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne
Re: Asia
*CONGRATULATIONS!! What wonderful news for you and for Asia!!! * *We can always use a shot of good news! Thanks for sharing!!* *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/23/07, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Ditto Dianne! Nina Leslie Lawther wrote: *CONGRATULATIONS!! What wonderful news for you and for Asia!!! * *We can always use a shot of good news! Thanks for sharing!!* *Leslie =^..^=* On 1/23/07, *Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: Asia
ThanksI sure do know about how important it is to hear a shot of good news. This is a big one but even the small ones are important. Dianne and Asia - Original Message - From: Leslie Lawther To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Asia CONGRATULATIONS!! What wonderful news for you and for Asia!!! We can always use a shot of good news! Thanks for sharing!! Leslie =^..^= On 1/23/07, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asia is still in remission! (from lymphoma) Dianne -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Asia update
The Elspar from last week put Asia back in remission according to vet yesterday. However because Elspar was used/because Asia came out of remission, yesterday the used Adrianmycin in an IV drip of 4mg. So now I am researching to find out about that drug. Asia also has gained 7 oz. in weight, she is responding well it appears. I do need to add supplements but can only add a few right now due to financial issues. What would be the best supplements to add to enhance her treatment right now? Vit. C Vet also provided a written report and both x-rays for me yesterday. I scanned and sent to a friend who is a veterinary radiographer and am waiting to hear back from him. Dianne and Asia __,_._,___
Re: Asia update
Oh Dianne what wonderful news! I'm so pleased to hear Asia is doing so well. I seem to remember you saying that Asia is on CoQ10, what else do you have her on? I'm not sure if Interferon is the best choice for her, you'd need to speak to your vet about it. I'd ask your vet about anything that boosts immune system response to make sure you're not inadvertently boosting the cancer cells as well. I know that Transfer Factor is suppose to be a immune regulator rather than an immune booster, you might want to look into that. Here's a paste of a post I wrote on it: *Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to educate an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. I use the animal stress formula. Here's a link to info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com/TransferFactor/basic.htm Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95 * www.4life.com http://www.4life.com Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. wrote: The Elspar from last week put Asia back in remission according to vet yesterday. However because Elspar was used/because Asia came out of remission, yesterday the used Adrianmycin in an IV drip of 4mg. So now I am researching to find out about that drug. Asia also has gained 7 oz. in weight, she is responding well it appears. I do need to add supplements but can only add a few right now due to financial issues. What would be the best supplements to add to enhance her treatment right now? Vit. C Vet also provided a written report and both x-rays for me yesterday. I scanned and sent to a friend who is a veterinary radiographer and am waiting to hear back from him. Dianne and Asia __,_._,___
Re: Asia update
I'd go with the vitamin C, and a good all around high calorie vitamin-mineral supplement, like Vita-Cal or Nutri-Cal, since she's doing chemo, she could probably use the additional easy to access calories. Neither of them are expensive. Phaewryn 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Asia update
Nina, No, Asia is not on CoQ10. I have not put her on any supplements due to the chemo and not having an opportunity to really talk with the oncologist. I changed our appointments to Friday mornings as the afternoons are so crazy that I don't get much chance to discuss things with the vet. Will explore all of this. Thanks Dianne - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Asia update Oh Dianne what wonderful news! I'm so pleased to hear Asia is doing so well. I seem to remember you saying that Asia is on CoQ10, what else do you have her on? I'm not sure if Interferon is the best choice for her, you'd need to speak to your vet about it. I'd ask your vet about anything that boosts immune system response to make sure you're not inadvertently boosting the cancer cells as well. I know that Transfer Factor is suppose to be a immune regulator rather than an immune booster, you might want to look into that. Here's a paste of a post I wrote on it: Transfer Factor is suppose to be an 'immune balancer' that is taken from cow's colostrum, they also use something from chicken yolks. The idea is to educate an immature or imbalanced immune system to bring it into balance and help it ward off illness. I'm not even sure if it works, but according to the studies I've read, it hasn't had any ill effects, even when amounts used are many times higher than recommended. There have been good reports about general health, (shiny coat etc.) from some of the folks I know who are using it. There are several different formulas for people and animals. I use the animal stress formula. Here's a link to info about Transfer Factor: http://www.transferfactorinstitute.com Here's the ordering info: The phone number for the company is: (888) 454-3374. There's a website link below, you might want to check out, but they don't have their order page encrypted, so it's safer to order over the phone. The wholesale price on the products from the most recent list I have is: Transfer Factor Classic -- 90 caps/$37.95 Transfer Factor Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$39.95 TF Plus Advanced Formula -- 60 caps/$54.95 TF Feline Complete -- 60 - 2 grm. servings/$35.95 Animal Stress Pack -- 7 - 2 oz.packets/$48.95 www.4life.com http://www.4life.com Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. wrote: The Elspar from last week put Asia back in remission according to vet yesterday. However because Elspar was used/because Asia came out of remission, yesterday the used Adrianmycin in an IV drip of 4mg. So now I am researching to find out about that drug. Asia also has gained 7 oz. in weight, she is responding well it appears. I do need to add supplements but can only add a few right now due to financial issues. What would be the best supplements to add to enhance her treatment right now? Vit. C Vet also provided a written report and both x-rays for me yesterday. I scanned and sent to a friend who is a veterinary radiographer and am waiting to hear back from him. Dianne and Asia __,_._,___
Re: Asia update
I heard that Vita-Cal and Nutri-Cal are full of sugar and that fuels cancer??? Regular vitamin C or is there a special cat Vit. C? Dianne - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Asia update I'd go with the vitamin C, and a good all around high calorie vitamin-mineral supplement, like Vita-Cal or Nutri-Cal, since she's doing chemo, she could probably use the additional easy to access calories. Neither of them are expensive. Phaewryn 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
Re: Asia update
Think you want kitty vit c or a type that has less chance of irritating the tummy. Might try Dr. Belfields products, at www.belfield.com Gloria On Dec 30, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Dianne K Perry, Ph.D. wrote: I heard that Vita-Cal and Nutri-Cal are full of sugar and that fuels cancer??? Regular vitamin C or is there a special cat Vit. C? Dianne - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Asia update I'd go with the vitamin C, and a good all around high calorie vitamin-mineral supplement, like Vita-Cal or Nutri-Cal, since she's doing chemo, she could probably use the additional easy to access calories. Neither of them are expensive. Phaewryn 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY- YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
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I think fish oil, coq10, and essiac tea would probably be the best in terms of fighting cancer. These can all e expensive, but there are sources to get them pretty cheaply as well. For dogs, they think that arginine, an amino acid, helps fight the lymphoma and make them feel better, and Hills puts a lot of it in their canine lymphoma canned diet. I don't know if they have researched it with cats. Michelle
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Interesting. All the facts I could find were directed at humans with cancer though, not felines, thus it's hard to say for sure if this all applies, because we generally don't consider fruits, vegetables and grains as good food choices for cats. Perhaps though, supplementing with a high fiber supplement would be better, as that would be a complex form of carbs, and not refined sugar. Missing Link should be a good one to try. Maybe rice bran (it's one of the ingredients in Missing Link)? Anyone ever given a cat straight rice bran? It's an excellent supplement for boosting calories and bloom in horses, but I've never heard of giving it to cats. From what I can find online, it appears that rice bran can make a cat taurine defincient, so that's probably not a good thing, but I should think you could add a taurine supplement at the some time to counteract that. http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/132/6/1745S This, however, is VERY interesting, as it's clinical proof that rice bran lowers blood glucose (in humans): http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheNcpsidt=13549291 (I think I may start supplementing my BF, LOL!) This is cool too, lots of info (some bad reference links though): http://catfood.tribe.net/thread/66947e21-1c4e-4e8a-bab3-b62be97ea033 -- The Story on Sugar Cancer The concept that sugar feeds cancer is very scary and confusing. First, what is sugar? Sugar is a carbohydrate. Sugar is a simple carbohydrate. Examples of sugar include sucrose and glucose. If sugar is a simple carbohydrate, what is a complex carbohydrate? Complex carbohydrates are many simple carbohydrates (sugars) linked together. Both simple (sugar) and complex carbohydrates can be converted into sugar in the body. So, this brings us to the question, Does Sugar Feed Cancer. The simple answer is Yes. Sugar feeds EVERY cell in the whole body. Every cell in you body uses glucose, a simple sugar, for energy. If we know that every cell in the body prefers or needs glucose (sugar) for energy, it is no surprise that sugar feeds cancer. Just like other body cells, cancer cells use sugar for energy to grow and multiply. Does this mean that you should cut every bit of carbohydrate out of your diet, to prevent 'feeding' your cancer? The answer is a resounding No! But why? Most people have heard about the difference between 'good fats' and 'bad fats'. We know that some fat, like the fat found in olive oil and nuts, is healthy for us. These are 'good fats.' The fat found in red meat, cheese, and junk food are the so-called 'bad fats.' These fats are not healthy for us. We can apply this same idea to carbohydrates! There are 'good carbohydrates' and 'bad carbohydrates'. Simple sugar can be thought of as a 'bad carbohydrate.' These carbohydrates are not healthy for us. Complex carbohydrates are the 'good' ones. These complex carbohydrates are found in foods that are excellent for our health. Recent research tells us that when it comes to cancer, sugar is not the real problem. However, the hormones our bodies can produce when we eat a lot of sugar may be a BIG problem for individuals living with cancer and for those trying to reduce risk of cancer. Remember, sugar doesn't 'feed' cancer any more than it 'feeds' other body cells. However, if you eat a lot of simple sugar on a regular basis, it raises body levels of certain hormones. These hormones include insulin, insulin-like growth factor, and other hormones that encourage cells to grow. These hormones are the problem, NOT the sugar. Research tells us that high levels of insulin and related hormones may increase cancer cell growth (1-6)! If avoiding carbohydrates is not the answer, what is? There are ways to make sure your diet doesn't cause your body to produce a lot of hormones that will fuel cancer cell growth. And cutting out all carbohydrates is NOT the answer. Here's the solution: DECREASE THE INSULIN RESPONSE!! You do not need to avoid carbohydrates to do this. In fact, this would be a BAD idea. Complex carbohydrates actually appear to fight cancer. You DO need to make sure you eat less sugar (simple carbohydrates). Focus on eating only COMPLEX carbohydrates and you will avoid making your body produce the hormones that may promote cancer cell growth. Why eat carbohydrates at all? Complex carbohydrates include vegetables, fruit, whole grains, and legumes (beans). These are the VERY foods that we know fight cancer (7-17). Thousands of research studies tell us this is true! These foods contain hundreds of nutrients, called phytochemicals. Phytochemicals FIGHT cancer. It's that simple. If you cut these foods out of your diet, you lose all of the great cancer fighting nutrients in these foods. And, these complex carbohydrates are slow to digest, so they don't raise blood sugar levels as much as simple sugars. Therefore these foods
Re: Asia update - rice bran and taurine
Rice bran is one of the ingredients in Gypsy's homemade turkey mush. I did some research at the time and found that pure rice bran is recommended highly over the other types of brans. I also add plenty of taurine. I had heard on a radio show featuring a feline nutritionist that taurine, along with all the other benefits derived, is good for immune system function. Nina Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn wrote: Interesting. All the facts I could find were directed at humans with cancer though, not felines, thus it's hard to say for sure if this all applies, because we generally don't consider fruits, vegetables and grains as good food choices for cats. Perhaps though, supplementing with a high fiber supplement would be better, as that would be a complex form of carbs, and not refined sugar. Missing Link should be a good one to try. Maybe rice bran (it's one of the ingredients in Missing Link)? Anyone ever given a cat straight rice bran? It's an excellent supplement for boosting calories and bloom in horses, but I've never heard of giving it to cats. From what I can find online, it appears that rice bran can make a cat taurine defincient, so that's probably not a good thing, but I should think you could add a taurine supplement at the some time to counteract that.
Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia
Dianne, How is Asia doing? Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 3:00:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for this. It reminded me of the day Asia was diagnosed with FELV, even before the Lymphoma I was down in the dumps and wondering why this again in my life(last year was horrible with the loss of 4 pets and a husband and a couple rescue dogs) anyway, it came to me that Asia picked me ...she did, there was no doubt about it when it happened last Dec. I knew, her foster parents knew, we talked about it. It came to me loud and clear that God had her pick me because I would take care of her to the very best of my ability and would not give up easily. Dianne
Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia
The vet said the tumor was gone 2 weeks ago, then last week said it was back and added the Elspar. Asia is breathing easily, moving around quite a bit and lapping up all the loving she can get. She is not as active as she was before getting sick, but she is much better than Thanksgiving week. I think she is not gaining weight as she should but will see on Friday when we go back to vet thanks for asking Dianne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia Dianne, How is Asia doing? Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 3:00:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for this. It reminded me of the day Asia was diagnosed with FELV, even before the Lymphoma I was down in the dumps and wondering why this again in my life(last year was horrible with the loss of 4 pets and a husband and a couple rescue dogs) anyway, it came to me that Asia picked me ...she did, there was no doubt about it when it happened last Dec. I knew, her foster parents knew, we talked about it. It came to me loud and clear that God had her pick me because I would take care of her to the very best of my ability and would not give up easily. Dianne
Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia
CCNU is another rescue drug like elspar that can help cats who have come out of remission. I think that it puts smething like 50% of cats with lymphoma back into remission after they have come out of it. Also, I don't remember, but I don't think your vet's protocol includes adriamycin, another strong chemo drug that wipes out a lot of lymphoma. another drug to ask about if the tumor is back again. hoping she stays feeling good, Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 3:17:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The vet said the tumor was gone 2 weeks ago, then last week said it was back and added the Elspar. Asia is breathing easily, moving around quite a bit and lapping up all the loving she can get. She is not as active as she was before getting sick, but she is much better than Thanksgiving week. I think she is not gaining weight as she should but will see on Friday when we go back to vet thanks for asking Dianne
Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia
No we don't use adriamycin, but I will remember it in case we need to add it. She is such a loving kittyincredible little one... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: How do yall do it?-- Asia CCNU is another rescue drug like elspar that can help cats who have come out of remission. I think that it puts smething like 50% of cats with lymphoma back into remission after they have come out of it. Also, I don't remember, but I don't think your vet's protocol includes adriamycin, another strong chemo drug that wipes out a lot of lymphoma. another drug to ask about if the tumor is back again. hoping she stays feeling good, Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 3:17:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The vet said the tumor was gone 2 weeks ago, then last week said it was back and added the Elspar. Asia is breathing easily, moving around quite a bit and lapping up all the loving she can get. She is not as active as she was before getting sick, but she is much better than Thanksgiving week. I think she is not gaining weight as she should but will see on Friday when we go back to vet thanks for asking Dianne
Re: Asia - new/additional diagnosis
I personally think the Innova Evo is a really good food, and have never even heard of Natural Balance. But you're right, at this point, the important thing is just to get anything into her, so I'd feed her which-ever she likes the best! I'm SO glad you got that second opinion from a better vet! Sounds like you are on the right track, and that you have a good vet to work with now. Phaewryn VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Dianne, Best wishes prayers are on the way for you Asia. Yvonne
Re: Asia - new/additional diagnosis
I would DEFINITELY stay with EVO. Lymphoma thrives on carbs, so you should limit those. EVO does not have many carbs, as it is grain-free. Some people buy Essiac tea at the health food store and syringe a little of that every day. It is a holistic anti-cancer treatment. There is one amino acid that is supposed to fight lymphoma as well, but I can't remember the name. Hills or Walthams has a special lymphoma diet for dogs that is rich in that amino acid-- you can check, and then supplement Asia with it, as there is no commercial lymphoma diet for cats to my knowledge. The most important thing, though, will be the chemo and steroids that you are doing. I am so glad that you started him on that. Michelle In a message dated 11/24/2006 9:16:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asia, me and my dear friend, Sue (Aunt Sue to Asia and my dogs) went to the veterinarian oncologist this afternoon for a consult. Ultra sound and x-ray later, Asia has a huge mass near her heart and lungs! She has lymphoma! We began treatment today, go back on next Friday. Dr. Ward said I should see a different cat within 48 hrs. Anything I can get in her to eat is fine, etc. Ok, so now what do all of you recommend for supplementation? I am going to get some nutrical as I know where to get that immediatelyand will order some of the good milk for supplementation for her. Not sure if I should go back to the Innova EVO or stay with Natural Balance, your advice please. Any other supplements recommended for lymphoma ? Thanks for your support! and of course she is FELV positive, 70% of the cats with lymphoma are. Dianne and Asia
Re: Asia - new/additional diagnosis
Went back to the EVO todayalso bought no grain canned food in a variety of flavors for her, we will see what she will eat. Want to ask oncologist about supplements before I buy too many Dianne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: Asia - new/additional diagnosis I would DEFINITELY stay with EVO. Lymphoma thrives on carbs, so you should limit those. EVO does not have many carbs, as it is grain-free. Some people buy Essiac tea at the health food store and syringe a little of that every day. It is a holistic anti-cancer treatment. There is one amino acid that is supposed to fight lymphoma as well, but I can't remember the name. Hills or Walthams has a special lymphoma diet for dogs that is rich in that amino acid-- you can check, and then supplement Asia with it, as there is no commercial lymphoma diet for cats to my knowledge. The most important thing, though, will be the chemo and steroids that you are doing. I am so glad that you started him on that. Michelle In a message dated 11/24/2006 9:16:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asia, me and my dear friend, Sue (Aunt Sue to Asia and my dogs) went to the veterinarian oncologist this afternoon for a consult. Ultra sound and x-ray later, Asia has a huge mass near her heart and lungs! She has lymphoma! We began treatment today, go back on next Friday. Dr. Ward said I should see a different cat within 48 hrs. Anything I can get in her to eat is fine, etc. Ok, so now what do all of you recommend for supplementation? I am going to get some nutrical as I know where to get that immediatelyand will order some of the good milk for supplementation for her. Not sure if I should go back to the Innova EVO or stay with Natural Balance, your advice please. Any other supplements recommended for lymphoma ? Thanks for your support! and of course she is FELV positive, 70% of the cats with lymphoma are. Dianne and Asia
Asia, second opinion
Have an appointment today at 4 pm with an oncologist/internal medicine vet for evaluation of Asia. This is a relief just knowing I can get to Dr. Ward today. Been there before with dogs and she will tell me the blunt truth. Then I can decide what to do next. Have a friend in NY that is a cancer vet and radiologist who has now become involved and will send test results to him too. Dianne and Asia
Re: Asia, second opinion
I'm glad you are going to get a second opinion. Please keep us posted elizabeth In a message dated 11/24/06 08:38:34 Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have an appointment today at 4 pm with an oncologist/internal medicine vet for evaluation of Asia. This is a relief just knowing I can get to Dr. Ward today. Been there before with dogs and she will tell me the blunt truth. Then I can decide what to do next. Have a friend in NY that is a cancer vet and radiologist who has now become involved and will send test results to him too. Dianne and Asia
Re: Asia, second opinion/report from Wed
hemothorax could be: Pneumothorax refers to air accumulation in the chest cavity. As odd as this sounds, the chest cavity must have a vacuum (no air) to work properly. There should be no air pressure outside the lungs. This enables them to inflate when the muscle of the chest are relaxed and it expands. The air is then forced out of the chest by contraction of the muscle of the chest. When the lung is damaged and leaks air, it collapses the lung. The same thing happens when there is a hole in the chest allowing air in. Either situation can be the cause of pneumothorax after a traumatic even like being hit by a car. If there is only a small amount of air accumulated it can be reabsorbed. This is commonly the case with blunt trauma in which the lung ruptures, then heals itself quickly. If there is a lot of air or continuous leakage of air, it is usually necessary to place a drain in the chest to remove the air and maintain a vacuum. This usually leads to difficulty breathing, or rapid shallow breathing. It is a weird thing to consider to be FELV related. Pneumothorax usually indicates trauma to the chest. Like being hit by a car, kicked, or slammed in a door. NOT typical of a FELV diagnosis. Makes me wonder why, if the vet saw this, did he still say it's FELV and recommend euthanasia? He should have decompressed the air in the chest cavity by aspirating it out with a needle. Also, a BIG BIG BIG factor to consider when you see a lack of blood clotting is rat POISONING, which should be considered VERY serious, and treated immediately. Poisoning can ALSO lead to fluid in the chest cavity that MAY be seen on an x-ray as a Pneumothorax or Pneumonia, except it's BLOOD in the chest cavity from the organs bleeding out due to the anticoagulant properties of many rat poisons. Regardless, if he had DONE THE ASPIRATION with the needle, he would have KNOWN if it were air, fluid, or blood (or nothing). Phaewryn VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Asia, second opinion/report from Wed
PCV 32 means that she is not anemic. I would not worry about her blood count. It sounds like she has fluid in or around her lungs. This could mean pneumonia, which would be treated with antibiotics. Or it could mean mediastinal lymphoma (see my previous email) or congestive heart failure (which is treatable with medications). You need to see another vet who will do appropriate tests to diagnose (even an x-ray might help), an internist preferably. Michelle In a message dated 11/24/2006 12:42:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also picked up the records from Wed.Temp was 101.90 muffled heart sounds and a bpr (?) or hpr of 180---something I can't read FELV (+) FIV (-) strong positive PCV 32 ...lack of severe anemia , suspect pulmonary edema/??? can't read but looks like homotherax??? significant hemotoma noted at blood draw on neck, no clotting/platelet issues likely present will take this report with mehe wrote that I wanted to proceed with conservative action until Friday when euthanasia likely. I did not say that! He kept saying I don't know how much you want to spendI asked him how bad it was and what was normal given her status. HE said euthanasia is the usual and recommended course at this time. interesting and angering... Can anyone shed some light on what the PCV-32 means or anything else in his notes? Dianne
Re: Asia, second opinion
That's great. Please let us know what happens. Michelle In a message dated 11/24/2006 11:44:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have an appointment today at 4 pm with an oncologist/internal medicine vet for evaluation of Asia. This is a relief just knowing I can get to Dr. Ward today. Been there before with dogs and she will tell me the blunt truth. Then I can decide what to do next. Have a friend in NY that is a cancer vet and radiologist who has now become involved and will send test results to him too. Dianne and Asia
