Re: Chester Not Eating
Hi again Lisa, How is Chester today? Here's the chicken broth I mentioned. I made it loads of times for my Felv kitties, and froze it. It's much easier than the length of the recipe implies. You just need to make it when you're home for several hours as it needs to simmer for 3-5 hrs. Sending healing vibes for the little sweetheart. I hope he's eating today. hugs, Kerry (Everything between here and the end of recipe is Frazier's words.) High Calcium Chicken Broth: Your own homemade chicken broth will be full of calcium and nutrients. Here's how to make it: 2 to 3lb chicken (I prefer thighs) 1 lb chicken necks and backs water to cover 1/4 cup tomato juice (not V8 juice) Put all chicken into a soup pot large enough so the chicken fills the pot only halfway. Cover with water until water is one to two inches above chicken. Cover the pot loosely (tip the lid). Bring to a low simmer. Simmer three to five hours, occasionally breaking up the chicken and adding more water if necessary. During the last hour remove the lid and let the water cook down until the chicken is barely covered. Broth is now deliciously strong. Pour off broth, cool to room temperature, and then store in refrigerator. While the broth is cooling, pour enough cold water over the chicken left in the pot to cover. Then let it cool some more until it's cool enough for you to be able to touch. With your hands, knead, squeeze, and stir the chicken around in the water to get all the good out of the meat and into the water. The water will begin to look milky. Finally, take handfuls of chicken meat, wring out the liquid into the pot, and throw the meat away. (The hours of simmering have succeeded in transferring the usable nutrition from the meat into the broth. What little nutrition is left in the meat at this point would be largely indigestible.) Leave the bones and the broth behind in the pot. Pour this broth off and store it with the first batch of broth. Transfer the bones into a smaller pot. Crack them up so they form a fairly compact mass in the bottom of the pan. Cover the bones with water and add the one-fourth cup tomato juice. Simmer one-half to one hour. Pour off this broth, again combining it with the other broth. Throw the bones away. Store about two cups of the broth in a jar in the refrigerator; store the rest in the freezer in pint-size covered freezer containers to be thawed as needed. To thaw, stand the container in a bowl of hot water. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felv" Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: Chester Not Eating
Re: Chester Not Eating
Lisa, Sending prayers for Chester, and Timmy. Mine used to enjoy chicken broth (from Anitra Frazier's Natural Cat book) when they were poorly. Will send the recipe from my work computer tomorrow. Kerry - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felv" Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: Chester Not Eating > Good Morning, > Hope you all had a good weekend. Chester did not do good this weekend. It > was hot out in 90s. I kept him in basement and kept putting wash rag w/cold > water on him. Basement was very cool and his body should be able to > regulate temp. Was not moving around much-took his temp and I thought he > might have fever but it was good 101. Yesterday he did not eat or drink. > Should I try Pedialyte? Do they like the taste? Tried everything-canned > tuna, turkey lunch meat, and treats. Has baby food worked? Any ideas? Has > gone to the bathroom, eyes and gums look good, is responsive to our voices > but no energy. Is this just the heat? We got a CVC Wed and results were > very good-healty blood. But bad news too-my other cat Timmy is also > positive. Scheduled retest in 8 weeks and praying for false positives. > Thanks, > Lisa > > -- > WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com) > >
Re: Chester Not Eating
Have you tried the liver shake? Michelle
Re: Chester Not Eating
Here's a good link for a cat's normal vital signs: http://www.cathelp-online.com/emergency/vitals.php -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Chester Not Eating
A cat's normal temperature is between 100.5 and 102.5, so 101 isn't anything to really worry about. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Chester Not Eating
Ahh, I see! Probably why I haven't seen a problem here from them eating the occasional oniony leftovers... most of my cats tend to have pretty normal red blood cell counts. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
Re: Chester Not Eating
for the trivia, onion destroys the red blood cells, causing anemia in cats, . Roxane[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:. Some cats love meat baby food, just be sure to read the ingredients,you do NOT want any onion in it. (I don't know why, that's just what everyone says...my cat was just eating my leftover guacamole from my tacos and it has onion, lime,and garlic in it, LOL! He's a odd beastie...)PhaewrynPLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (forpictures) and HOMES for CATS!-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006Roxane,Horton, Iowa Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: Chester Not Eating
Heat can make even very well negative cats not want to do anything or eat. I saw it here over the hot weekend too. 101 isn't high enough to need to take any drastic measures, he's probably just tired from the heat, but not feverish. 105 and up is when you need to really worry about fever in cats. Some cats love meat baby food, just be sure to read the ingredients, you do NOT want any onion in it. (I don't know why, that's just what everyone says... my cat was just eating my leftover guacamole from my tacos and it has onion, lime, and garlic in it, LOL! He's a odd beastie...) Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
Re: Chester Not Eating
It could be the heat and I would try the unflavored pedialyte. If necessary you can just add some to the water. I'm sorry about the the positive test for Timmy. Maybe they will both fight off the virus. Are you using interferon? tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Morning,Hope you all had a good weekend. Chester did not do good this weekend. It was hot out in 90s. I kept him in basement and kept putting wash rag w/cold water on him. Basement was very cool and his body should be able to regulate temp. Was not moving around much-took his temp and I thought he might have fever but it was good 101. Yesterday he did not eat or drink. Should I try Pedialyte? Do they like the taste? Tried everything-canned tuna, turkey lunch meat, and treats. Has baby food worked? Any ideas? Has gone to the bathroom, eyes and gums look good, is responsive to our voices but no energy. Is this just the heat? We got a CVC Wed and results were very good-healty blood. But bad news too-my other cat Timmy is also positive. Scheduled retest in 8 weeks and praying for false positives. Thanks,Lisa --WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)
Re: Chester Not Eating
Hi Lisa, I hear the panic in your words, it's something that everyone on the list has to deal with. It's a good thing in a way because it shows we're being hyper vigilant and that's important to safeguard our pos' health. Since it was really hot out, I'm hoping Chester's not wanting to eat and his lethargy are simply symptoms of the heat. Is Timmy acting the same way? Didn't you tell us that the first clue you had to something being "not right" with Chester was lethargy? Is he still on abx? The fact that his blood work looked good and his temp was normal, are very encouraging. I'm concerned that you and your vet haven't gotten to the bottom of what ever is ailing Chester. Have you called your vet this morning? Is he working with you to find the answers? If it were me and Chester didn't perk up very soon, I'd be looking for an Internist to take him to. That really sucks that Timmy has tested pos too! I'm so sorry to hear this. It goes against what we have come to suspect about the difficulty of transmission to a healthy negative cat. Has Timmy been an indoor only cat his whole life? Keep us updated on what's going on with Chester. Sending you calm healing energy and prayers that Chester feels better very soon, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Morning, Hope you all had a good weekend. Chester did not do good this weekend. It was hot out in 90s. I kept him in basement and kept putting wash rag w/cold water on him. Basement was very cool and his body should be able to regulate temp. Was not moving around much-took his temp and I thought he might have fever but it was good 101. Yesterday he did not eat or drink. Should I try Pedialyte? Do they like the taste? Tried everything-canned tuna, turkey lunch meat, and treats. Has baby food worked? Any ideas? Has gone to the bathroom, eyes and gums look good, is responsive to our voices but no energy. Is this just the heat? We got a CVC Wed and results were very good-healty blood. But bad news too-my other cat Timmy is also positive. Scheduled retest in 8 weeks and praying for false positives. Thanks, Lisa -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)
Re: Chester Not Eating
Try Just Born and Nutri-Cal for supplements. There are ice blankets (usually in the picnic/hunting or first aid sections of Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart etc). You freeze them, cover them with a light towel (or whatever) to protect the cat from direct contact. They are easier than the rags and cold water. Be careful not to bring the temperature down too low. You might try warming some food. Fried chicken seemed to be a favorite of Kitty's. There are critter versions of Pedialyte. The last I got was at my vet's and that was over a year ago. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "felv" Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: Chester Not Eating Good Morning, Hope you all had a good weekend. Chester did not do good this weekend. It was hot out in 90s. I kept him in basement and kept putting wash rag w/cold water on him. Basement was very cool and his body should be able to regulate temp. Was not moving around much-took his temp and I thought he might have fever but it was good 101. Yesterday he did not eat or drink. Should I try Pedialyte? Do they like the taste? Tried everything-canned tuna, turkey lunch meat, and treats. Has baby food worked? Any ideas? Has gone to the bathroom, eyes and gums look good, is responsive to our voices but no energy. Is this just the heat? We got a CVC Wed and results were very good-healty blood. But bad news too-my other cat Timmy is also positive. Scheduled retest in 8 weeks and praying for false positives. Thanks, Lisa -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
Chester Not Eating
Good Morning, Hope you all had a good weekend. Chester did not do good this weekend. It was hot out in 90s. I kept him in basement and kept putting wash rag w/cold water on him. Basement was very cool and his body should be able to regulate temp. Was not moving around much-took his temp and I thought he might have fever but it was good 101. Yesterday he did not eat or drink. Should I try Pedialyte? Do they like the taste? Tried everything-canned tuna, turkey lunch meat, and treats. Has baby food worked? Any ideas? Has gone to the bathroom, eyes and gums look good, is responsive to our voices but no energy. Is this just the heat? We got a CVC Wed and results were very good-healty blood. But bad news too-my other cat Timmy is also positive. Scheduled retest in 8 weeks and praying for false positives. Thanks, Lisa -- WOW! Homepage (http://www.wowway.com)