Re: Tsunade, question, and Samantha
Glad to hear about Tsunade. The best things to help the felv stay dormant are to keep her on supplements, good food, and stress free.tonyaChelsea Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tsunade is doing much better. She has really gotten into playing withtoys (was not interested at 1st). I bought some new toys yesterday, put4 of them in her porch and she went wild knocking them everwhere. Sheeven brought me a present, she carried her fish plush toy, and dropped iton the mat next to the door that leads inside. When she was stayingoutdoors, before I decided to keep her, she would bring a half-eaten voleor sometimes whole voles as presents. I like the toys much better, itscute and the rodents can live in peace now.My question is HOW can a cat that is leukemia positive make the virusgo away or become dormant??? I understand a false test result, but Ithought once a cat gets the leukemia there is no way to truly get rid ofit. Please clear this up for me.This is for Samantha. If her totth roots are showing why not just dosurgery to pull the gums back up over the roots??? The tooth roots ofall of my bottom teeth are showing, and they are getting lower and lower.I will probably have to have gum sugery within the next year because mylower gums continue to recede. My dentist is puzzled by this as I amyoung, 23, and have never had a cavity. Go figure.Chelsea
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Lynn(e)? and Stinker.. Anyone still have her email.Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. It is imperative that the teeth roots are removed or the problem WILL NOT be taken care of. I thought at one time there was a member of the group who had a kitty with this problem, it's been a while ago, I'm thinking it may have been Patti, not sure though.-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
It was this in 1998, probably not good anymore: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lynn(e)? and Stinker.. Anyone still have her email. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Tsunade, question, and Samantha
Hi Chelsea, If the kitty's immune system is strong enough it can fight off the virus, that is why we look for immune boosters to give to them as well as the best food we can find/afford. I believe there have been studies that show something like a third of the cats exposed will be able to fight it off, a third will not get it at all, and the last third will contract it without being able to throw it off. Something you can try for Samantha's teeth and gums is giving her C0Q10 - I think I remember my vet saying 30mg a day. You can get it in gel caps and just squirt it on her food. It may also help you - you can take anywhere from 30mg/day up to 100mg/day depending on the severity of the problem. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Chelsea Bennett wrote: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:19:11 -0400 From: Chelsea Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Tsunade, question, and Samantha Tsunade is doing much better. She has really gotten into playing with toys (was not interested at 1st). I bought some new toys yesterday, put 4 of them in her porch and she went wild knocking them everwhere. She even brought me a present, she carried her fish plush toy, and dropped it on the mat next to the door that leads inside. When she was staying outdoors, before I decided to keep her, she would bring a half-eaten vole or sometimes whole voles as presents. I like the toys much better, its cute and the rodents can live in peace now. My question is HOW can a cat that is leukemia positive make the virus go away or become dormant??? I understand a false test result, but I thought once a cat gets the leukemia there is no way to truly get rid of it. Please clear this up for me. This is for Samantha. If her totth roots are showing why not just do surgery to pull the gums back up over the roots??? The tooth roots of all of my bottom teeth are showing, and they are getting lower and lower. I will probably have to have gum sugery within the next year because my lower gums continue to recede. My dentist is puzzled by this as I am young, 23, and have never had a cavity. Go figure. Chelsea
Re: Tsunade, question, and Samantha
I'm new to this disease so I don't know if I can help, but two of my cats have the herpes virus. From what I am told the virus never leaves the body. If the cat becomes stressed out, the virus flares up. I've noticed this with Sarah. She is fine for months then something upsets her and her right eye flares up. It becomes red and inflammed. I use a compounded eye drop on her and in a few days it heals. But my understanding is that the virus cannot be expelled from the body. I think probably this is true about leukemia, although I'm still learning. Samantha seems to accumulate tartar where the teeth join the gums. The tartar irritates the gums and they recede even more. As the condition worsens the bone may become exposed. The vet suggested that the teeth be pulled to lessen the reaction. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Chelsea Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/06 6:19 PM Tsunade is doing much better. She has really gotten into playing with toys (was not interested at 1st). I bought some new toys yesterday, put 4 of them in her porch and she went wild knocking them everwhere. She even brought me a present, she carried her fish plush toy, and dropped it on the mat next to the door that leads inside. When she was staying outdoors, before I decided to keep her, she would bring a half-eaten vole or sometimes whole voles as presents. I like the toys much better, its cute and the rodents can live in peace now. My question is HOW can a cat that is leukemia positive make the virus go away or become dormant??? I understand a false test result, but I thought once a cat gets the leukemia there is no way to truly get rid of it. Please clear this up for me. This is for Samantha. If her totth roots are showing why not just do surgery to pull the gums back up over the roots??? The tooth roots of all of my bottom teeth are showing, and they are getting lower and lower. I will probably have to have gum sugery within the next year because my lower gums continue to recede. My dentist is puzzled by this as I am young, 23, and have never had a cavity. Go figure. Chelsea
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nancy, Here is an article on what your vet is saying your baby has: http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00066.htm If your vet is right and your kitty has FORL (Feline Odontoclastic Resorptive Lesions), it is a very painful disease and really needs to be treated. Here is a quote from this article Cats with immune system deficiency caused by infection with FIV or FeLV often have chronic oral inflammation, although most cats with FORL test negative for these two viruses. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
PS. It is imperative that the teeth roots are removed or the problem WILL NOT be taken care of. I thought at one time there was a member of the group who had a kitty with this problem, it's been a while ago, I'm thinking it may have been Patti, not sure though. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Samantha FORL
Here is an article with photos, some of the photos are graphic, it shows the different stages of the disease and what treatment is. Ask your vet if he has ever treated a cat with this, it may be a good idea to see a vet dentist if that is possible to make sure the roots are completely extracted. http://www.dentalvet.com/Encyclopedia/P00352_SC01100.htm -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Thank you so much for the article. It answers more questions than any vet. The vet does suggest three tooth extractions although she said this would buy the cat only 3 to 6 months. Eventually all the teeth will have to be removed. The article mentioned irritability because of the mouth pain. That is very accurate in Samantha 's case. She definitely is irritible. I noticed that ever since I adopted her. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/06 5:22 AM Nancy, Here is an article on what your vet is saying your baby has: http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00066.htm If your vet is right and your kitty has FORL (Feline Odontoclastic Resorptive Lesions), it is a very painful disease and really needs to be treated. Here is a quote from this article Cats with immune system deficiency caused by infection with FIV or FeLV often have chronic oral inflammation, although most cats with FORL test negative for these two viruses. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Samantha FORL
This vet definitely has experience with the disease. Eventually, I will go to a vet dentist if whole mouth extraction is necessary. I just don't have the money right now and the vet feels that the three teeth need to be removed immediately. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/06 5:34 AM Here is an article with photos, *some of the photos are graphic*, it shows the different stages of the disease and what treatment is. Ask your vet if he has ever treated a cat with this, it may be a good idea to see a vet dentist if that is possible to make sure the roots are completely extracted. http://www.dentalvet.com/Encyclopedia/P00352_SC01100.htm -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Samantha FORL
It's always hard when money *has* to be a consideration, but it sounds like you're doing the right thing as needed. Best of luck to you and Samantha with the 3-toofies extraction. I bet she feels at least *better* right away. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Schneider Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha FORL This vet definitely has experience with the disease. Eventually, I will go to a vet dentist if whole mouth extraction is necessary. I just don't have the money right now and the vet feels that the three teeth need to be removed immediately. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
The thing about Samantha is that she does eat the hard food and doesn't seem to experience any discomfort when eating it.I believe she is actually eating less because of the weight loss as I'm not home during the day. I know what you mean when you say that you have to be happy knowing you did your best. I used to beat myself up when I lost a cat due to kidney failure last year. I had her for 15 years and I felt that she took a part of my life with her when she passed. I felt that I should have done more. Sometimes nothing you do can help. You have to accept that fact and let go. Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 5:48 PM Nancy An average cat needs to eat about one 5.5 oz can of food each day.. If she is eating much less than that than that explains the weight loss... FeLV is spread in the saliva so it is possible to spread by grooming or food and water... It dies as soon as it dries out but if it is kept moist ... If the neg. cats are healthy and a year old or older they have a good resistance to FeLV... It spreads among strays that are in run down condition and under the stress of being homeless... It is very unpredictable and you have to be happy knowing that you gave them all the good life that you could within your means... It may be a good long while and they may be happy right up to the end and pass in their sleep or it can be a long illness and you may have to make the decision that you will have to help them to the Rainbow Bridge... This is a great group and we are all here to help each other with much experience and to be with you during the sad times when we are loosing one of our babies... Tad Nancy Schneider wrote: Hopefully you are right about the mixing. The vet stated that the virus can be transmitted via food bowls. I don't see evidence of it in my household. I really hope and pray that your feelings about the difficult transmission of the disease to other cats is accurate. I feel that it is hard to transmit , because of the fact that the virus is very sensitive outside the body. I have read this fact before. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 1:32 PM Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
It is completely unpredictable. But supplements and good care seem to help a lot. I forgot to mention that CoQ10 is supposed to help with gum problems. I had one of mine on it for a few years. Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 6:08:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering if there is a progression to feline leukemia. If my cathas had it at least one year now and currently she has red gums, poorcoat and is rather thin, what can I expect or is it an unknown? I'll tryto get her some help from a holistic vet. Hopefully some treatment tostrenghten her immune system.
Tsunade, question, and Samantha
Tsunade is doing much better. She has really gotten into playing with toys (was not interested at 1st). I bought some new toys yesterday, put 4 of them in her porch and she went wild knocking them everwhere. She even brought me a present, she carried her fish plush toy, and dropped it on the mat next to the door that leads inside. When she was staying outdoors, before I decided to keep her, she would bring a half-eaten vole or sometimes whole voles as presents. I like the toys much better, its cute and the rodents can live in peace now. My question is HOW can a cat that is leukemia positive make the virus go away or become dormant??? I understand a false test result, but I thought once a cat gets the leukemia there is no way to truly get rid of it. Please clear this up for me. This is for Samantha. If her totth roots are showing why not just do surgery to pull the gums back up over the roots??? The tooth roots of all of my bottom teeth are showing, and they are getting lower and lower. I will probably have to have gum sugery within the next year because my lower gums continue to recede. My dentist is puzzled by this as I am young, 23, and have never had a cavity. Go figure. Chelsea
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Go to a feline dentist, not a regular vet, to get them removed. The dentist will be more expensive, but it is worth it if you can afford it. They do a much better job. Michelle In a message dated 10/26/2006 10:57:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you so much for the article. It answers more questions than anyvet. The vet does suggest three tooth extractions although she said thiswould buy the cat only 3 to 6 months. Eventually all the teeth will haveto be removed. The article mentioned irritability because of the mouthpain. That is very accurate in Samantha 's case. She definitely isirritible. I noticed that ever since I adopted her.
Re: Tsunade, question, and Samantha
The teeth and roots are being reabsorbed into her gums, the only way to fix it is pull the teeth and make sure to get all of the root out, otherwise it's basically like doing nothing and very painful. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Samantha has feline leukemia
I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hi Nancy, I'm sorry you had to find us, but welcome to the list. Gingivitis, (irritated gums) is a common problem with felv kitties. The weight loss is troubling though. Is that why you took her to the vet and found out she was pos? Did the vet do blood work? Is she eating the same as always and still losing weight, or is she losing weight because her mouth hurts her and she's not eating as much? I'm a fan of homeopathic treatments, but sometimes when our fur babies are in crisis allopathic measures are necessary, esp for acute conditions. Antibiotics have saved my kids on more than one occasion. I'm sure you are going to get lots of good advice from the list members. Do searches on the group page and ask as many questions as you like. Everyone is really supportive here. Everyone understands how upsetting it is to find out one of our babies has felv. Take a deep breath, we'll help you help Samantha as best we can. Nina Nancy Schneider wrote: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nancy, I'm sorry to hear that Samantha has tested positive, but happy you found us. This a great and very well informed group. I'm even happier that you have decided to keep Samantha and want to give her the best care possible. Bless you for doing this. About FeLV and transmission. I had a stray give birth on my porch about five years ago. I found her a home and two of the three kittens a home. The third kitten I named Cricket and ended up keeping. He was my baby. I had two others in the house as well. Two years after Cricket was born, he got very sick and ended up testing positive for FeLV. He probably was born with it. We got him over that illness and he was fine for two more years, until he succumbed to FeLV related anemia that I believe was brought on by the stress of having a lot of family living with us for a week during Hurricane Rita last year. I lost him last November. None of my other cats are positive. Two of them lived with him more than four years (they are 10 now) and another lived with him for two years (she's 17). They all shared the same water and food bowls and litter boxes, but no grooming. There are a lot of people here who mix. The big thing you will need to worry about is fighting. If blood or bites are exchanged, then the FeLV is more easily transmitted. Also, we've seen a pattern here that it is much harder for an adult cat to contract FeLV. Samantha may still throw off the FeLV virus, so you'll need to retest in several months. I think the statistics say this happens 40% of the time. FeLV is not a death sentence, whether she throws the virus or not. There are many kitties here who have led long, happy, healthy lives. The two big things in keeping Samantha healthy and helping her to throw the virus are her diet and keeping her stress free. Make sure she is getting a good, quality food (anything you can buy at Walmart does not count nor does Science Diet, which is what I fed mine before I joined this group; I feed mine Innova Evo now). Also, supplement her immune system by giving her L-Lysine (without propylene glycol) and Vitamin C. Others here use a few other supplements. She will have the upper hand by getting all the love that you will be giving her. I think that goes a long way in keeping any cat healthy. Please post if you have any more questions or just need an ear and good luck! :) Wendy Dallas, TX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Sounds like she has gingivitis and could have stomatitis. Clindamycin is an antibiotic that often helps with gingivitis. My cat Patches stopped eating for a day or two because of inflamed gums and a five day course of Clindamycin cleared it up enough for her to feel and act ok again. If it is stomatitis, there are various things that seem to help, from steroids to suppress the symptoms to particular immune supports. The weight loss could be just from her gums hurting, or it could be from something else that she needs treatment for. Do you have a good vet? Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 12:53:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia.She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other catsthat have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assuredshe was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the webto get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet.If anyone has any other suggestions
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you?
RE: Samantha has feline leukemia
Other questions might be: Is she positive for both tests? How old is she? How old are the other cats? Any health issues with them that would preclude vaccination? Have they been tested recently? Is she strictly indoor cat, or indoor/outdoor? What about the others? Any signs of sickness other than those related to sore gums? When she was diagnosed, did vet want to pts? Diane R. -- learned at the feet of experts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nina, the vet did a blood test because she was so thin and she isn't eating as much. She is scheduled for 3 tooth extractions because the vet said her tooth roots are exposed. Al least I'm grateful I know what is wrong. I really didn't have a clue. The vet gave her some depo and antibiotics. I may try interferon. From what I read it seems to work. I've had cats for 17 years and never had any experience with feline leukemia. Thanks for your words of support. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 10:20 AM Hi Nancy, I'm sorry you had to find us, but welcome to the list. Gingivitis, (irritated gums) is a common problem with felv kitties. The weight loss is troubling though. Is that why you took her to the vet and found out she was pos? Did the vet do blood work? Is she eating the same as always and still losing weight, or is she losing weight because her mouth hurts her and she's not eating as much? I'm a fan of homeopathic treatments, but sometimes when our fur babies are in crisis allopathic measures are necessary, esp for acute conditions. Antibiotics have saved my kids on more than one occasion. I'm sure you are going to get lots of good advice from the list members. Do searches on the group page and ask as many questions as you like. Everyone is really supportive here. Everyone understands how upsetting it is to find out one of our babies has felv. Take a deep breath, we'll help you help Samantha as best we can. Nina Nancy Schneider wrote: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Wendy, thank you for the info. I never knew you could mix feline positive cats with negative ones. Luckily, the other cats are not losing weight and have better kept coats. My cats don't bite. They generally just hiss at each other. I try to keep Samantha as comfortable as possible. I also have two dogs. But she has never exhibited any slightest hesitation about giving the dogs a whack when she wants to be left alone. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:07 AM Nancy, I'm sorry to hear that Samantha has tested positive, but happy you found us. This a great and very well informed group. I'm even happier that you have decided to keep Samantha and want to give her the best care possible. Bless you for doing this. About FeLV and transmission. I had a stray give birth on my porch about five years ago. I found her a home and two of the three kittens a home. The third kitten I named Cricket and ended up keeping. He was my baby. I had two others in the house as well. Two years after Cricket was born, he got very sick and ended up testing positive for FeLV. He probably was born with it. We got him over that illness and he was fine for two more years, until he succumbed to FeLV related anemia that I believe was brought on by the stress of having a lot of family living with us for a week during Hurricane Rita last year. I lost him last November. None of my other cats are positive. Two of them lived with him more than four years (they are 10 now) and another lived with him for two years (she's 17). They all shared the same water and food bowls and litter boxes, but no grooming. There are a lot of people here who mix. The big thing you will need to worry about is fighting. If blood or bites are exchanged, then the FeLV is more easily transmitted. Also, we've seen a pattern here that it is much harder for an adult cat to contract FeLV. Samantha may still throw off the FeLV virus, so you'll need to retest in several months. I think the statistics say this happens 40% of the time. FeLV is not a death sentence, whether she throws the virus or not. There are many kitties here who have led long, happy, healthy lives. The two big things in keeping Samantha healthy and helping her to throw the virus are her diet and keeping her stress free. Make sure she is getting a good, quality food (anything you can buy at Walmart does not count nor does Science Diet, which is what I fed mine before I joined this group; I feed mine Innova Evo now). Also, supplement her immune system by giving her L-Lysine (without propylene glycol) and Vitamin C. Others here use a few other supplements. She will have the upper hand by getting all the love that you will be giving her. I think that goes a long way in keeping any cat healthy. Please post if you have any more questions or just need an ear and good luck! :) Wendy Dallas, TX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
It's really hard to find a good vet. I think I found one just recently. Samantha was diagnosed with stomatitis. But none of the vets suspected feline leukemia. They just explained that her gums are allergic to her teeth. That explanation never made much sense to me. I recently read that there is hope for feline pos cats. I have very little experience with that disease. I always thought it was highly contagious and the cat had to be put down. This vet said that is not the case. I guessm we learn something new every day. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:23 AM Sounds like she has gingivitis and could have stomatitis. Clindamycin is an antibiotic that often helps with gingivitis. My cat Patches stopped eating for a day or two because of inflamed gums and a five day course of Clindamycin cleared it up enough for her to feel and act ok again. If it is stomatitis, there are various things that seem to help, from steroids to suppress the symptoms to particular immune supports. The weight loss could be just from her gums hurting, or it could be from something else that she needs treatment for. Do you have a good vet? Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 12:53:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
The vet did a blood test and said that it came back negative for FIP but positive for Feline leukemia. They did a more comprehensive blood test and they said her bone marrow and cbc was normal. I don't know what it means exactly, but hopefully it means her disease is not that unmanageable. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:35 AM Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nancy, it's a very good sign that this vet didn't immediately suggest you put her to sleep. So many still believe the OLD info about contagion. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Schneider Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia It's really hard to find a good vet. I think I found one just recently. Samantha was diagnosed with stomatitis. But none of the vets suspected feline leukemia. They just explained that her gums are allergic to her teeth. That explanation never made much sense to me. I recently read that there is hope for feline pos cats. I have very little experience with that disease. I always thought it was highly contagious and the cat had to be put down. This vet said that is not the case. I guessm we learn something new every day. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Keep this vet. He(she) sounds like a good one b/c he doesn't automatically say to pts for FeLV. :) Wendy --- Nancy Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really hard to find a good vet. I think I found one just recently. Samantha was diagnosed with stomatitis. But none of the vets suspected feline leukemia. They just explained that her gums are allergic to her teeth. That explanation never made much sense to me. I recently read that there is hope for feline pos cats. I have very little experience with that disease. I always thought it was highly contagious and the cat had to be put down. This vet said that is not the case. I guessm we learn something new every day. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 11:23 AM Sounds like she has gingivitis and could have stomatitis. Clindamycin is an antibiotic that often helps with gingivitis. My cat Patches stopped eating for a day or two because of inflamed gums and a five day course of Clindamycin cleared it up enough for her to feel and act ok again. If it is stomatitis, there are various things that seem to help, from steroids to suppress the symptoms to particular immune supports. The weight loss could be just from her gums hurting, or it could be from something else that she needs treatment for. Do you have a good vet? Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 12:53:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have had Samantha for i year. I just found out that she has leukemia. She has red irritated gums and is losing weight. I have 4 other cats that have not contacted the disease. When I adopted her, I was assured she was felv negative. I love her very much and I am researching the web to get info to help her. I am planning on taking her to a holistic vet. If anyone has any other suggestions __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Samantha has feline leukemia
It's not too surprising that the rescue group is less than up to date on these things. We have a wonderful rescue group in my town, but they're used to dealing with cats that someone has to leave behind or whatever, reasonably healthy and with a known background. Then they set up a temporary shelter for Katrina animals and were inundated with all sorts of unknowns, including some wonderful, loving cats that tested positive for FIV, FeLV, or both, and they were shaken. They did their research, though, and discovered that FIV+ cats can live just as long as others and never show any signs of sickness, and that FeLV+s, though their lives are usually shorter, can also be well and happy with proper care. Of necessity, they kept these cats somewhat segregated from the others, because they still weren't sure how contagious (or not) they might be, but they did find most of them happy new homes. So even when you're dealing with people who are generally animal-savvy, there's still a learning curve about these things. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Schneider Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Samantha has feline leukemia Samantha is two years old. The other cats are about the same age. They are all rescues. The rescue group said that all the cats tested negative for FIP and Feline leukemia.They are all vaccinated. Maybe that is why none of the others show signs of the disease. Samantha was the exception. When I first took her in she had red gums and horrible breath. I was told she probably has an allergy to her gums. Whatever that means. I think that the rescue group was clueless about her condition as well.All my cats are indoor. Only the dogs go out. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 12:56 PM Other questions might be: Is she positive for both tests? How old is she? How old are the other cats? Any health issues with them that would preclude vaccination? Have they been tested recently? Is she strictly indoor cat, or indoor/outdoor? What about the others? Any signs of sickness other than those related to sore gums? When she was diagnosed, did vet want to pts? Diane R. -- learned at the feet of experts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
See if you can find an alternative vet. There are lots of things that can be done. I've started Dixie Louise on Brush Away that a vet + alternative vet recommended. Dr. Maiers says the product has kept a number of older animals from being sedated for teeth cleaning. Dixie also gets Just Born as a treat sometimes or when she is not feeling well because of the colostrum. These are just things you may want to consider. Bless you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: RE: Samantha has feline leukemia It's not too surprising that the rescue group is less than up to date on these things. We have a wonderful rescue group in my town, but they're used to dealing with cats that someone has to leave behind or whatever, reasonably healthy and with a known background. Then they set up a temporary shelter for Katrina animals and were inundated with all sorts of unknowns, including some wonderful, loving cats that tested positive for FIV, FeLV, or both, and they were shaken. They did their research, though, and discovered that FIV+ cats can live just as long as others and never show any signs of sickness, and that FeLV+s, though their lives are usually shorter, can also be well and happy with proper care. Of necessity, they kept these cats somewhat segregated from the others, because they still weren't sure how contagious (or not) they might be, but they did find most of them happy new homes. So even when you're dealing with people who are generally animal-savvy, there's still a learning curve about these things. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Schneider Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Samantha has feline leukemia Samantha is two years old. The other cats are about the same age. They are all rescues. The rescue group said that all the cats tested negative for FIP and Feline leukemia.They are all vaccinated. Maybe that is why none of the others show signs of the disease. Samantha was the exception. When I first took her in she had red gums and horrible breath. I was told she probably has an allergy to her gums. Whatever that means. I think that the rescue group was clueless about her condition as well.All my cats are indoor. Only the dogs go out. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 12:56 PM Other questions might be: Is she positive for both tests? How old is she? How old are the other cats? Any health issues with them that would preclude vaccination? Have they been tested recently? Is she strictly indoor cat, or indoor/outdoor? What about the others? Any signs of sickness other than those related to sore gums? When she was diagnosed, did vet want to pts? Diane R. -- learned at the feet of experts -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia That's a good question Belinda. I just assumed she meant felv. N Belinda wrote: Hi Nancy, Is she FeLV+ or does she actually have the cancer form of leukemia? Can you give more details about what your vet told you? This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Hopefully you are right about the mixing. The vet stated that the virus can be transmitted via food bowls. I don't see evidence of it in my household. I really hope and pray that your feelings about the difficult transmission of the disease to other cats is accurate. I feel that it is hard to transmit , because of the fact that the virus is very sensitive outside the body. I have read this fact before. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 1:32 PM Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Nancy An average cat needs to eat about one 5.5 oz can of food each day.. If she is eating much less than that than that explains the weight loss... FeLV is spread in the saliva so it is possible to spread by grooming or food and water... It dies as soon as it dries out but if it is kept moist ... If the neg. cats are healthy and a year old or older they have a good resistance to FeLV... It spreads among strays that are in run down condition and under the stress of being homeless... It is very unpredictable and you have to be happy knowing that you gave them all the good life that you could within your means... It may be a good long while and they may be happy right up to the end and pass in their sleep or it can be a long illness and you may have to make the decision that you will have to help them to the Rainbow Bridge... This is a great group and we are all here to help each other with much experience and to be with you during the sad times when we are loosing one of our babies... Tad Nancy Schneider wrote: Hopefully you are right about the mixing. The vet stated that the virus can be transmitted via food bowls. I don't see evidence of it in my household. I really hope and pray that your feelings about the difficult transmission of the disease to other cats is accurate. I feel that it is hard to transmit , because of the fact that the virus is very sensitive outside the body. I have read this fact before. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 1:32 PM Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
That's my approach. As I understand, an adult cat with a healthy immune system can generally repel the virus if casual contact is made. I have mixed with no problem, do not now because I have foster cats. There's so much that's not known about FELV. It's scarey how much vets do vary in their approach to FELV (also FIV). I never trust a vets opinion, I always research it if possible. But then vets can vary in a lot of ways. Gloria - Original Message - From: Nancy Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: Re: Samantha has feline leukemia Hopefully you are right about the mixing. The vet stated that the virus can be transmitted via food bowls. I don't see evidence of it in my household. I really hope and pray that your feelings about the difficult transmission of the disease to other cats is accurate. I feel that it is hard to transmit , because of the fact that the virus is very sensitive outside the body. I have read this fact before. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/06 1:32 PM Hey Nancy, I want to clarify that although many of us feel that we are fairly safe mixing (especially since most of us had already exposed the other cats beforehand), there is not enough research on FeLV, so we don't really know how it is exactly transmitted, or how easily it is transmitted. Most of us here though have seen patterns, and we don't believe it is easily passed via food, water, or litter boxes. We do however feel that bites are a form of transmission. The virus can only live seconds outside the body, exposed to air, so that's why we think it's really difficult to pass. And even those that are exposed, in ways other than biting, usually throw off the virus if they are adults. I just wanted to clarify so that you don't think we said it was ok to mix, and you come up with a positive test on one of your others later on. We have just seen that it's very rare, unless there is biting. :) Wendy P.S. I have family in LA (Studio City and Hollywood). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Samantha has feline leukemia
Not trusting vet's opinions is a good rule of thumb. The lack of consistency is shocking, not to mention how many vets will throw up their arms and give up when a cat tests pos for either fiv or felv. I only use my vet's opinions as part of the means to guide my decisions. Research, research, research. I value the experience and opinions of the people on this list far more than any vet I've encountered. Nina Gloria B. Lane wrote: That's my approach. As I understand, an adult cat with a healthy immune system can generally repel the virus if casual contact is made. I have mixed with no problem, do not now because I have foster cats. There's so much that's not known about FELV. It's scarey how much vets do vary in their approach to FELV (also FIV). I never trust a vets opinion, I always research it if possible. But then vets can vary in a lot of ways. Gloria
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Hey Yvonne, So glad to hear that Samantha is getting over her UTI and eating again. What a relief for you. Congratulations and yea Samantha! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I actually think she would probably be ok. She has had dental issues since she picked me at the humane society in 1990, has pretty much had dentals done 1-2 times per year she's never had a problem with the anesthesia. She had some sort of episode a little over a year ago...my husband saw it what he described sounded like a seizure, but we can never be sure what happened. We took her to the e-vet at the time they suspected it was her heart, since her labs indicated enlargement. She had an ECG, tho, about a week later it showed no mechanical defect. She has had her teeth cleaned once since then they just used the gas, not the injectable she came thru it (Maya, a black white 6 year old just minimized my screen while I'm typing...stinker!) just fine. I'm justalways a bit nervy about my furkids right after I've lost one. She's been fine the last couple days, but I think it's time for another dental. Yvonne :) n a message dated 10/3/2006 7:18:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How old is Sammy again? My Buddy was FIV+ and had dental issues. He was 16 years old the last time he had his teeth cleaned and a few teeth pulled. He went through the anesthesia just fine. He was in really good health despite the FIV though. What does your "gut" say about puttingSammy through anesthesia? :) Gina
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How old is Sammy again? My Buddy was FIV+ and had dental issues. He was 16 years old the last time he had his teeth cleaned and a few teeth pulled. He went through the anesthesia just fine. He was in really good health despite the FIV though.What does your "gut" say about puttingSammy through anesthesia?:) Gina SamilukeMon, 02 Oct 2006 00:43:05 -0700 Thanks, Kayte...she ate this morning tonite, too. Yay Sammy! I think it's time for another dental for her, but I'm always nervous about anesthesia at her age. Visit my Tigger Tales site! Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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I'm very happy to hear the good news!!Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy to say that the antibiotic drops are working...Sammy's eyes nose are already clearing up she just ate some canned cat food. She is moving about just jumping in my lap purring. I am so relieved. Maybe I was worrying a bit too much, but it is easy to do that after losing a furkid. YvonneVisit my Tigger Tales site! All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
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Thanks, Kayte...she ate this morning tonite, too. Yay Sammy! I think it's time for another dental for her, but I'm always nervous about anesthesia at her age. Yvonne In a message dated 10/1/2006 10:04:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great You keep getting stronger Samantha. I am soo happy that your Sammy is getting better! You keep giving her lots of the wonderful TLC that you do!!! So glad :0) Give Sammy some kisses for me:) and crackers :) kayte and crackers
Re: Samantha/Special Needs List
They seemed ok with each other. Peanut knew how to keep the young upstarts from messing with her, but she never seemed to mind Sammy. What's interesting is that Ashley, one of the other cats that came with Peanut, has been sleeping on the couch in the spot where Peanut was laying on her last day with us. She has never slept there before. It's like she senses Peanut's presence there or something. I held Peanut through the night, but I put her on the couch later, b/c I was afraid that it was causing her discomfort every time I moved. Then, I just laid next to her kept my hand on her petted her. Basil, the other cat that came with Peanut, came up not long before we left to help Peanut to the Bridge gave Peanut 2 head butts. It's like she was saying good-bye, but it was very cheerful, like she was saying that Peanut would be all right. Yvonne In a message dated 10/1/2006 7:49:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More prayers coming your way Yvonne. I hope Sammy turns this thing around. 17 is old though Was she friends with Peanut at all? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I've been trying to catch up on posts and had just written you about your Sammy. Before I sent it, I decided to do a search to see if there was any news. What a relief to read this post!! Hooray for Sammy! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy to say that the antibiotic drops are working...Sammy's eyes nose are already clearing up she just ate some canned cat food. She is moving about just jumping in my lap purring. I am so relieved. Maybe I was worrying a bit too much, but it is easy to do that after losing a furkid. Yvonne
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Oh I am so happy!! keep eating and getting strong sammy! I love to read about everyones babies getting well!!!:) kayte and Crackers Re: Samantha/Good News SamilukeMon, 02 Oct 2006 00:43:05 -0700 Thanks, Kayte...she ate this morning tonite, too. Yay Sammy! I think it's time for another dental for her, but I'm always nervous about anesthesia at her age.
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Sammy and you both are in my prayers.Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda Everyone,Could you also add my Sammy to the special needs list? She is a 17 year old Siamese mix that looks kind of like a Ragdoll. She didn't come out this morning when I was feeding the cats their canned food we couldn't even find her. When we got home tonite, I found her hiding under my desk behind the backup power supply for the computer. She has a yellow discharge coming from her nose eyes. I suspect it may be a URI, possibly related to or complicated by her ongoing dental issues. I gave her some antibiotic eye nose drops tried to get her to eat some turkey, but she wouldn't eat any. I'm going to start syringe feeding her if she hasn't started eating by morning get her to the vet on Monday. Having just lost Peanut, I am feeling really jumpy about this. Please keep Sammy in your prayers. Thanks.YvonneVisit my Tigger Tales site! How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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I am happy to say that the antibiotic drops are working...Sammy's eyes nose are already clearing up she just ate some canned cat food. She is moving about just jumping in my lap purring. I am so relieved. Maybe I was worrying a bit too much, but it is easy to do that after losing a furkid. Yvonne
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Great You keep getting stronger Samantha. I am soo happy that your Sammy is getting better! You keep giving her lots of the wonderful TLC that you do!!! So glad :0) Give Sammy some kisses for me:) and crackers :) kayte and crackers
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More prayers coming your way Yvonne. I hope Sammy turns this thing around. 17 is old though Was she friends with Peanut at all?t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belinda Everyone,Could you also add my Sammy to the special needs list? She is a 17 year old Siamese mix that looks kind of like a Ragdoll. She didn't come out this morning when I was feeding the cats their canned food we couldn't even find her. When we got home tonite, I found her hiding under my desk behind the backup power supply for the computer. She has a yellow discharge coming from her nose eyes. I suspect it may be a URI, possibly related to or complicated by her ongoing dental issues. I gave her some antibiotic eye nose drops tried to get her to eat some turkey, but she wouldn't eat any. I'm going to start syringe feeding her if she hasn't started eating by morning get her to the vet on Monday. Having just lost Peanut, I am feeling really jumpy about this. Please keep Sammy in your prayers. Thanks.Yvonne
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That's great news!!![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy to say that the antibiotic drops are working...Sammy's eyes nose are already clearing up she just ate some canned cat food. She is moving about just jumping in my lap purring. I am so relieved. Maybe I was worrying a bit too much, but it is easy to do that after losing a furkid. Yvonne
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Belinda Everyone, Could you also add my Sammy to the special needs list? She is a 17 year old Siamese mix that looks kind of like a Ragdoll. She didn't come out this morning when I was feeding the cats their canned food we couldn't even find her. When we got home tonite, I found her hiding under my desk behind the backup power supply for the computer. She has a yellow discharge coming from her nose eyes. I suspect it may be a URI, possibly related to or complicated by her ongoing dental issues. I gave her some antibiotic eye nose drops tried to get her to eat some turkey, but she wouldn't eat any. I'm going to start syringe feeding her if she hasn't started eating by morning get her to the vet on Monday. Having just lost Peanut, I am feeling really jumpy about this. Please keep Sammy in your prayers. Thanks. Yvonne
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I'm so sorry for your loss of sweet Samantha. Re cleaning, when the virus hits the air it dies. Cats won't pick up the virus from the anything in the house or the air. I'd do a normal wash and dry of the food dishes, and change the litter box. gloria On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Julia Hagstrom wrote: Thanks, everyone, for all the support. I need to know what kind of cleaner to use, as I have been offered a kitty who is a month younger than Samantha was, and needs a home; her owner is moving to an apartment, where they don't allow pets. Also, I have a chance to get a really young kitten, as the lady behind the counter where a friend and I bowl has a cat who is about to give birth, so I might end up with 2 cats. I want to clean my house before any more cats come in to it, make sure there is NO chance of the FelV virus still being around. I am throwing out all of Samantha's toys, her food and water dishes, and, most especially, her litter box. What's a good cleaner to use??? Julia On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Terri Brown wrote: I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Samantha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here -- www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/ terrispage.html?1083970447350 Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/ terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone
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Dear Julia, My thoughts prayers are with you Samantha. I have been in the situation of letting one of my beloved furbabies go home to a life free from pain I understand all too well how difficult it is. Please know that your special little angel will always be with you. Hugs to you both, Yvonne
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I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Samantha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here -- www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! JuliaOn Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message -From: Julia HagstromTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PMSubject: Re: How is Samantha today?Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support.JuliaOn Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Julia, I really think thata dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list.MichelleIn a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi, Wendy,Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink theLactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth,but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, andcan hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. Thevet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with thePrednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; theyhardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. Ithink she will be gone soon. :( :( :(Juliaimage.tiff No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006
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Samantha has passed over, and she was ready to go. Julia Hagstrom On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:14 PM, Marylyn wrote: Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia image.tiff> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 image.tiff> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006
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Thanks, everyone, for all the support. I need to know what kind of cleaner to use, as I have been offered a kitty who is a month younger than Samantha was, and needs a home; her owner is moving to an apartment, where they don't allow pets. Also, I have a chance to get a really young kitten, as the lady behind the counter where a friend and I bowl has a cat who is about to give birth, so I might end up with 2 cats. I want to clean my house before any more cats come in to it, make sure there is NO chance of the FelV virus still being around. I am throwing out all of Samantha's toys, her food and water dishes, and, most especially, her litter box. What's a good cleaner to use??? Julia On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Terri Brown wrote: I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Samantha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here --> www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I g
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Julia, Samantha knew how much she was loved. She was a very lucky kitty to have had someone to love and care for her as much as you did. Bonnie http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:29 pm Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Samantha has passed over, and she was ready to go. Julia Hagstrom On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:14 PM, Marylyn wrote: Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia image.tiff No virus found
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Julia,I am so sorry for your loss,but she is much better now.Maybe she was able to meet my Maizee.Take care,you are a great kitty mom. SherryJulia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samantha has passed over, and she was ready to go.Julia HagstromOn Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:14 PM, Marylyn wrote: Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love.If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think thata dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006 Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.
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Thanks, I appreciate your advice, and thanks for the good wishes and sympathy. I will clean up all the places she was, and throw out all her toys, as they're pretty worn, anyway. :( Julia On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 06:37 PM, Tracy Weese wrote: I'm not sure there is much chance of FeLV living on anything very long once the disease has been exposed to air and dried BUT I AM no expert. I have read from others that they typically do a thorough cleaning and either throw out toys (or keep them for keepsakes, but not other cats). I personally live with 4 FeLV+ cats and 6 negatives (and that number has been variable depending on rescue and losing cats for whatever reason) and do not separate anything (not food bowls, water, litter pans) but have never had a negative cat turn/become positive so I think the chances of any transfer, esp. after the affected cat has passed (and I'm sorry for your loss), is minimal. How wonderful you will give 2 new cats a loving home. Tracy [Original Message] From: Julia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: 6/30/2006 5:21:41 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, everyone, for all the support. I need to know what kind of cleaner to use, as I have been offered a kitty who is a month younger than Samantha was, and needs a home; her owner is moving to an apartment, where they don't allow pets. Also, I have a chance to get a really young kitten, as the lady behind the counter where a friend and I bowl has a cat who is about to give birth, so I might end up with 2 cats. I want to clean my house before any more cats come in to it, make sure there is NO chance of the FelV virus still being around. I am throwing out all of Samantha's toys, her food and water dishes, and, most especially, her litter box. What's a good cleaner to use??? Julia On Friday, June 30, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Terri Brown wrote: I can only echo Marylyn's words. Big hugs to you. Goodnight, sweet Samantha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Cool Catholic Stuff! Click Here -- www.TotallyCatholic.com/Theresa Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion
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She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support.JuliaOn Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think thata dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list.MichelleIn a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi, Wendy,Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink theLactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth,but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, andcan hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. Thevet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with thePrednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; theyhardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. Ithink she will be gone soon. :( :( :(Julia No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006
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Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia image.tiff> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006
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Julia, God bless you and Samantha. I wish I had known more about this disease at the time of Sasha's passing so I could have saved him from more suffering. I know Samantha loves you very much. Bonnie http://grants.library.wisc.edu/organizations/animals.html http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/ http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:21 pm Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia image.tiff No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006
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Julia, Strength going out to you. Thank you for doing the merciful thing for Samantha, even while your heart is breaking. And again, bless you for taking such good care of her. :) Wendy --- Julia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, Please, help me! I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! Julia On Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia image.tiff No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Spend tonight loving her and cuddling her in your heart. You can send her all sorts of love without moving her or causing her pain. Just be with her and tell her it is alright to leave this world. That you are going to be ok. She may well decide to leave tonight on her own but she needs to know that is ok with you and .well, she is very concerned about you and your welfare. She needs permission to leave this body and needs to know that you know she will remain around in spirit. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Julia Hagstrom To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: How is Samantha today? Thanks for your good wishes; she told me last night that she is ready to go. She is in a lot of pain, with her big eyes looking up at me, as if to say, "Please, help me!" I decided this morning that tomorrow is the time to let her go. I'll take her to my vet, and it will be swift and painless. She'll be free to breathe again, without working so hard at it, and will never have pain again. :( I'll be crying, but I know it's the best thing for her; I've already made the arrangements, and she'll be well taken care of. Thank you all for your support, and I will stay on the Email list, because I'm going to get another kitty right away, so as not to be alone, and reading y'all's Emails has given me an education, so I'll still need that, until I make sure my new kitty is safe from this terrible disease. Thanks! JuliaOn Thursday, June 29, 2006, at 06:43 AM, Marylyn wrote: She will tell you when it is time. Listen to her with your heart then do all you can to help her on her journey. That may be to do nothing or to help her leave---both are so hard. But listen to your loving cat. She is so grateful to you for all your love. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis- Original Message -From: Julia HagstromTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:31 PMSubject: Re: How is Samantha today?Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support.JuliaOn Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Julia, I really think thata dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list.MichelleIn a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi, Wendy,Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink theLactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth,but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, andcan hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. Thevet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with thePrednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; theyhardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. Ithink she will be gone soon. :( :( :(Juliaimage.tiff No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006
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Thanks, I really appreciate that. Julia On Saturday, June 24, 2006, at 11:32 PM, catatonya wrote: Julia, You and Samantha are both in my prayers. tonya Julia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just wanted y'all to know, I have a friend who is helping take my kitty, Samantha, to the Cancer Center in Dallas tomorrow. Please send prayers for her, she needs all the help she can get, and I've asked for a kitty angel just for her. I've had one all my life, there's no reason she shouldn't have one, too. I'm hoping the mass in her chest is treatable, and is something simple, although I know it's probably the Mediastinal lymphoma, since she's already been diagnosed. I'm also hoping it hasn't gotten into her bones. Is there a natural diuretic I can give her, that won't harm her? I've run out of the Lasix the vet had her on, and haven't got any left for tonight or tomorrow. Thanks, all :) Julia On Saturday, June 17, 2006, at 11:26 PM, wrote: > They both make wet foods too, try that petfooddirect.com website I > posted, they show all their wet foods too (I believe I posted direct > links to the wet varieties for each brand I listed). I'm reading my > bag of California natural right now, it does NOT have phenyalanine in > it, unless it's under the guise of natural flavors. I think that out > of all the wet brands I read doing the research for you that the > Innova Evo was the highest protein wet cat food available. > > I'm not the local expert on wet and raw diets for this group.. I'm > sure one of them will join in and tell us why wet/raw is better due to > the increased liquid and how the protein ratios work out, but I am > fairly sure that it's the same in the end because the cats on wet > diets drink less water so the protein they eat doesn't get diluted > much with extra water, where-as cats on dry diets drink a ton more > water, so the protein in the food they eat gets well diluted down to > the same difference as what's in wet food... that's the only logical > explanation as to why wet cat food is so much lower in protein. > Someone here MUST know that for sure though > > I guess I'm used to living out in the country, I order most everything > online. My food I can buy at my vet's office, but all supplies and > supplements I buy at fostersmith.com. > > Phaewryn > > PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > > DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital > camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: > 6/16/2006
Re: How is Samantha today?
Julia, I really think thata dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy,Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :(Julia
Re: How is Samantha today?
Thanks, I'll talk to the vet about it; she's in such bad shape, she doesn't move unless she has to. I think her time is coming, pretty soon, as she is suffering, now, and I won't let her do that very long. I'll set her free, before I'll let her suffer much. Thanks for all the support. Julia On Wednesday, June 28, 2006, at 08:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julia, I really think that a dexamethasone/depomedrol shot would make her feel much better. It can make them feel good until they are ready to go. I have seen it happen with lymphoma multiple times, as has at least one other person on this list. Michelle In a message dated 6/28/2006 3:13:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Wendy, Well, she's barely eating anything, in fact, she'd rather drink the Lactaid milk I give her than eat. I tried putting food in her mouth, but she doesn't want it. She's having a terrible time breathing, and can hardly stand to be held, as it makes her very uncomfortable. The vet said she thinks the tumor is taking up more space, even with the Prednisone, and that's why she's having so much trouble breathing; they hardly got any fluid out of her, the last time they drained it out. I think she will be gone soon. :( :( :( Julia
samantha
Julia, You and Samantha are both in my prayers. tonyaJulia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted y'all to know, I have a friend who is helping take my kitty, Samantha, to the Cancer Center in Dallas tomorrow. Please send prayers for her, she needs all the help she can get, and I've asked for a kitty angel just for her. I've had one all my life, there's no reason she shouldn't have one, too. I'm hoping the mass in her chest is treatable, and is something simple, although I know it's probably the Mediastinal lymphoma, since she's already been diagnosed. I'm also hoping it hasn't gotten into her bones. Is there a natural diuretic I can give her, that won't harm her? I've run out of the Lasix the vet had her on, and haven't got any left for tonight or tomorrow. Thanks, all :)JuliaOn Saturday, June 17, 2006, at 11:26 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: They both make wet foods too, try that petfooddirect.com website I posted, they show all their wet foods too (I believe I posted direct links to the wet varieties for each brand I listed). I'm reading my bag of California natural right now, it does NOT have phenyalanine in it, unless it's under the guise of "natural flavors". I think that out of all the wet brands I read doing the research for you that the Innova Evo was the highest protein wet cat food available. I'm not the local expert on wet and raw diets for this group.. I'm sure one of them will join in and tell us why wet/raw is better due to the increased liquid and how the protein ratios work out, but I am fairly sure that it's the same in the end because the cats on "wet" diets drink less water so the protein they eat doesn't get "diluted" much with extra water, where-as cats on dry diets drink a ton more water, so the protein in the food they eat gets well diluted down to the same difference as what's in wet food... that's the only logical explanation as to why wet cat food is so much lower in protein. Someone here MUST know that for sure though I guess I'm used to living out in the country, I order most everything online. My food I can buy at my vet's office, but all supplies and supplements I buy at fostersmith.com. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 6/16/2006
Re: samantha
Thanks, the mass is in her lymph node, and the prognosis isn't good. I appreciate all your prayers, she needs all the help she can get. Julia Hagstrom On Saturday, June 24, 2006, at 11:32 PM, catatonya wrote: Julia, You and Samantha are both in my prayers. tonya Julia Hagstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just wanted y'all to know, I have a friend who is helping take my kitty, Samantha, to the Cancer Center in Dallas tomorrow. Please send prayers for her, she needs all the help she can get, and I've asked for a kitty angel just for her. I've had one all my life, there's no reason she shouldn't have one, too. I'm hoping the mass in her chest is treatable, and is something simple, although I know it's probably the Mediastinal lymphoma, since she's already been diagnosed. I'm also hoping it hasn't gotten into her bones. Is there a natural diuretic I can give her, that won't harm her? I've run out of the Lasix the vet had her on, and haven't got any left for tonight or tomorrow. Thanks, all :) Julia On Saturday, June 17, 2006, at 11:26 PM, wrote: > They both make wet foods too, try that petfooddirect.com website I > posted, they show all their wet foods too (I believe I posted direct > links to the wet varieties for each brand I listed). I'm reading my > bag of California natural right now, it does NOT have phenyalanine in > it, unless it's under the guise of natural flavors. I think that out > of all the wet brands I read doing the research for you that the > Innova Evo was the highest protein wet cat food available. > > I'm not the local expert on wet and raw diets for this group.. I'm > sure one of them will join in and tell us why wet/raw is better due to > the increased liquid and how the protein ratios work out, but I am > fairly sure that it's the same in the end because the cats on wet > diets drink less water so the protein they eat doesn't get diluted > much with extra water, where-as cats on dry diets drink a ton more > water, so the protein in the food they eat gets well diluted down to > the same difference as what's in wet food... that's the only logical > explanation as to why wet cat food is so much lower in protein. > Someone here MUST know that for sure though > > I guess I'm used to living out in the country, I order most everything > online. My food I can buy at my vet's office, but all supplies and > supplements I buy at fostersmith.com. > > Phaewryn > > PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! > http://ucat.us/adopt.html > > DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital > camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: > 6/16/2006
