Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[gwork]

I was always told the flea dirt was flea excrement/waste.  You can see 
those flecks or droppings anywhere the animal has been as they drop off the 
body.  At any rate, I agree that if someone is seeing them without having to 
look very hard, there is an infestation that needs attention ASAP.


Kris
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Subject: Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV


I would treat them all if they have been exposed to the dog which is known 
to have
fleas. Frontline is a good choice. I would NOT use Revolution in a immune 
compromised
cat. I assume by black nits you mean the black flecks you see in/on the 
coat, also
sometimes called flea dirt. It's actually dried BLOOD from the flea 
bites. If it's
enough for you to SEE it without digging through the coat, the dog is 
indeed INFESTED

BADLY and being EATEN ALIVE by this point.

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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Ashleigh Smith]

Yes, flea dirt is excrement. If you put a bit on a wet paper towel, you will see it turn red (because of the blood in it.) That's how you can tell it isn't real dirt, but flea excrement. I use Frontline every 3 months as a preventative measure, and Bella has never had fleas.~Ashleighgwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I was always told the "flea dirt" was flea excrement/waste. You can see those flecks or droppings anywhere the animal has been as they drop off the body. At any rate, I agree that if someone is seeing them without having to look very hard, there is an infestation that needs attention ASAP.Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
 Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:45 AMSubject: Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLVI would treat them all if they have been exposed to the dog which is known to have fleas. Frontline is a good choice. I would NOT use Revolution in a immune  compromised cat. I assume by black nits you mean the black flecks you see in/on the  coat, also sometimes called "flea dirt". It's actually dried BLOOD from the flea  bites. If it's enough for you to SEE it without digging through the coat, the dog is  indeed INFESTED BADLY and being EATEN ALIVE by this point. Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name) http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely
 injured when someone wrapped  wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to  find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital  camera (for pictures), and more towels! --  No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 6/1/2006  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[gwork]

Exactly - good, glad to know I wasn't 
mistaken all these years :)

Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com

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  From: 
  Ashleigh 
  Smith 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:55 PM
  Subject: Re: fleas, Frontline and 
  FeLV
  
  Yes, flea dirt is excrement. If you put a bit on a wet paper towel, 
  you will see it turn red (because of the blood in it.) That's how you 
  can tell it isn't real dirt, but flea excrement. 
  
  I use Frontline every 3 months as a preventative measure, and Bella has 
  never had fleas.
  
  ~Ashleighgwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  I 
was always told the "flea dirt" was flea excrement/waste. You can see 
those flecks or droppings anywhere the animal has been as they drop off 
the body. At any rate, I agree that if someone is seeing them without 
having to look very hard, there is an infestation that needs attention 
ASAP.Krishttp://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com- Original 
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<FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:45 
AMSubject: Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLVI would treat 
them all if they have been exposed to the dog which is known to 
have fleas. Frontline is a good choice. I would NOT use Revolution 
in a immune  compromised cat. I assume by black nits you 
mean the black flecks you see in/on the  coat, also 
sometimes called "flea dirt". It's actually dried BLOOD from the flea 
 bites. If it's enough for you to SEE it without digging 
through the coat, the dog is  indeed INFESTED BADLY and 
being EATEN ALIVE by this point. Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed 
name) http://ucat.us 
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah 
(UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE 
TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely 
injured when someone wrapped  wire around his neck to 
strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring 
Tangle to Vermont to  find him a good home! 
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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Lance]

HI Phaewryn,

My mom did have to do some digging around in her fur to find the flea  
dirt. Mattie is a shih tzu with long, long hair. My dad checked  
Mattie over and never found fleas. Very strange. I read just  
yesterday that if we had gotten a sample of the flea dirt, we could  
have put it on a damp paper towel to see if it exhibited a red halo  
when wet. I think Mattie has been all brushed off, though, so we  
can't perform that particular check.


I'm hoping to find gentler options for keeping Ember flea-free in the  
future.


Lance

Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[TatorBunz]

As long there is a dog in the home and it goes outside there will be fleas around. 
If it isn't treated for fleas the fleas are going to jump on the kitty. Then you know for obvious reasons.
Us humans can carry fleas into our homes as well. 
Especially when around a lot of sand and dirt.

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HI Phaewryn,My mom did have to do some digging around in her fur to find the flea dirt. Mattie is a shih tzu with long, long hair. My dad checked Mattie over and never found fleas. Very strange. I read just yesterday that if we had gotten a sample of the flea dirt, we could have put it on a damp paper towel to see if it exhibited a red halo when wet. I think Mattie has been all brushed off, though, so we can't perform that particular check.I'm hoping to find gentler options for keeping Ember flea-free in the future.Lance


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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Lernermichelle]

Program, a pill that is a flea birth control hormone, seems to work well, 
and I feel like it is safer than the chemical topical applications (not sure if 
that is true or not). I don't use it with mine, but I don't use anything 
for fleas at this point. If they get them, I would use that before a 
topical.
Michelle

In a message dated 6/2/2006 3:49:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  As long there is a dog in the 
  home and it goes outside there will be fleas around. 
  If it isn't treated for fleas 
  the fleas are going to jump on the kitty. Then you know for obvious 
  reasons.
  Us humans can carry fleas into 
  our homes as well. 
  Especially when around a lot of 
  sand and dirt.

Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Belinda]

   I use program and so does my sister, although I use the liquid and 
put it in their food.  We have not had any problems.  There is also an 
injection also that some vets carry, I think it's suppose to last about 
6 months, never tried it though.


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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Belinda]

PS.  Program only kills the eggs not the actual fleas though.  Here is 
some info on it:


http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_program.html

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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Lernermichelle]

True, but somehow it seems to control the flea populations sufficiently 
that way so the fleas disappear. I am not sure why. I think maybe the adults, by 
the time they bite, don't live much longer.
Michelle

In a message dated 6/2/2006 4:38:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PS. Program only kills the eggs not the actual fleas 
  though. Here is some info on it:

Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Belinda]

  Hi Michelle,
 Just reread your post and see that's what you said.  I think a fleas 
life span is only about 6 weeks.


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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[BONNIE J KALMBACH]

I've had great success with a flea comb and dippping it in a container
of hot soapy water.

Bonnie 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: fleas,  Frontline and FeLV
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 
 Program, a pill that is a flea birth control hormone, seems to work 
 well,  
 and I feel like it is safer than the chemical topical applications 
 (not sure if  
 that is true or not).  I don't use it with mine, but I don't use 
 anything  
 for fleas at this point. If they get them, I would use that before 
 a  topical.
 Michelle
 
 In a message dated 6/2/2006 3:49:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 As long there is a dog in the  home and it goes outside there will 
 be fleas 
 around. 
 If it isn't treated for fleas  the fleas are going to jump on the 
 kitty. Then 
 you know for obvious  reasons.
 Us humans can carry fleas into  our homes as well. 
 Especially when around a lot of  sand and dirt.
 
 
 
 
 

Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[felv]

I would treat them all if they have been exposed to the dog which is known to 
have
fleas. Frontline is a good choice. I would NOT use Revolution in a immune 
compromised
cat. I assume by black nits you mean the black flecks you see in/on the coat, 
also
sometimes called flea dirt. It's actually dried BLOOD from the flea bites. If 
it's
enough for you to SEE it without digging through the coat, the dog is indeed 
INFESTED
BADLY and being EATEN ALIVE by this point.

Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera 
(for
pictures), and more towels!



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Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Nina]

Lance,
I just wanted to let you know that I never use the full amount of 
Advantage that they recommend.  When the fleas are at their worst, I 
just use a dab of the stuff and only re-apply if I see a flea on 
someone, (not just automatically every month).  I do usually dose 
everyone in the house at the same time, but the two newest arrivals, 
(Starman and Spencer), are having terrible itching problems and I 
suspect the Advantage.  It's one of those rock and hard place 
situations.  If it's possible to use a flea comb to remove fleas it's a 
safer solution.  Make sure you vacuum often and wash bedding regularly.  
There have been anequdotal reports of seizures and death in young and 
ill cats using Revolution, esp if it is applied anywhere near an open 
sore.  I don't use any flea treatments unless I see fleas!

Nina

Lance wrote:

One of our dogs has the tell-tale little black nits in the fur on  
her neck that indicate fleas are incoming. We're going to treat her  
tomorrow with Frontline. My father is convinced that none of the  
other animals should be treated if they don't have fleas.


My Ember is FeLV+, and while she is generally isolated from the other  
animals, the one dog who has the nits is occasionally in the room  
adjoining ours with my mom, so that the two have space that overlaps.  
I worry about the possibility of Hemobartanella. Ember is four years  
old and currently asymptomatic. Should I treat her with Frontline,  
just in case she's had exposure?

fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Lance]

One of our dogs has the tell-tale little black nits in the fur on  
her neck that indicate fleas are incoming. We're going to treat her  
tomorrow with Frontline. My father is convinced that none of the  
other animals should be treated if they don't have fleas.


My Ember is FeLV+, and while she is generally isolated from the other  
animals, the one dog who has the nits is occasionally in the room  
adjoining ours with my mom, so that the two have space that overlaps.  
I worry about the possibility of Hemobartanella. Ember is four years  
old and currently asymptomatic. Should I treat her with Frontline,  
just in case she's had exposure?

Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Pam Norman]

I would treat with both.   I asked my vet about this just last week as I've
been using Revolution regularly on all my cats, but I asked him about
whether it adequately protected my Gus (who nearly died from hemobart in
2004) from ticks. I was very surprised when he told me that Revolution does
nothing to repel ticks.  But Frontline does. So after talking to him, I am
continuing the Revolutoin for all the cats because of its anti-flea 
anti-parasite (worms) effectivelness. I 'll dose everyone on the first of
the month  then in the middle of the month I will dose Gus with Frontline.
You might want to talk to your vet about a similar regimen.

Pam
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:35 PM
Subject: fleas, Frontline and FeLV


 One of our dogs has the tell-tale little black nits in the fur on
 her neck that indicate fleas are incoming. We're going to treat her
 tomorrow with Frontline. My father is convinced that none of the
 other animals should be treated if they don't have fleas.

 My Ember is FeLV+, and while she is generally isolated from the other
 animals, the one dog who has the nits is occasionally in the room
 adjoining ours with my mom, so that the two have space that overlaps.
 I worry about the possibility of Hemobartanella. Ember is four years
 old and currently asymptomatic. Should I treat her with Frontline,
 just in case she's had exposure?

Re: fleas, Frontline and FeLV

[Lance]

Oh well. We just treated Ember. I decided to take the plunge, after  
reading some things about the Frontline and Advantage on the web. It  
actually ended up being Advantage that we have, so that's what Ember  
got a dose of. Hopefully this will give her protection while we sort  
out whether or not we have any fleas at all. We were unable to find  
fleas on the dogs, though flea poop was found on one of them earlier.