Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist) (litter, and my invention, the endless litter litterbox)
I've used SWheat Scoop and really liked it---until I got several boxes with weevils in them. This may not be a problem for everyone but it sure was for me. The people at SWheat Scoop were kind but the advise they offered doesn't fit with my idea of what is good for cats--use an insecticide on the litter. They maintained the litter was infested after it left their factory and also advised that it should never be kept near bird food (exactly where it is in groceries). I would love to be able to use the litter again but I just can't handle the insects and the cats weren't real happy with them eitherscratch the litter and up come lots of them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:16 AM Subject: Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist) (litter, and my invention,the endless litter litterbox) There's a good wheat based scoopable too, called SWheat Scoop. Never tried it, but have heard good reviews from others (and I believe the clumps are flushable too). I like the idea of corn or wheat based litters, we KNOW those are relatively safe, I mean, they are ingredients in many cheaper cat foods! When they successfully make a GOOD absorbent rice litter I'll be first in line! LOL, I ran out of litter once, but had a big box of cream of wheat breakfast cereal... but it didn't absorb much. I think rolled oats might work though.. anyone got an old bag of quaker oats that's rotting in the pantry, for the sake of science? In the past, when I was really poor (this was years ago, mind you)I just went out into the yard and dug up some dirt to put in the litterbox. Sandy soil is MUCH preferable to good dirt, at least it doesn't turn into mud clods. I'm still trying to figure out my endless litter self-cleaning litterbox. Uses aquarium or pea gravel over a small 1/4 grid rabbit wire base over a dropped "waste" receptacle with built in plumbing so it actually all flushes away, pee goes right through it, then it self rinses it after the cat leaves the box with a non-toxic white vinegar "douche" (you know the floral scented vinegar kind) that is heated and sprays down over the "litter" from above. But the poo is an issue I'm still trying to figure out (solid poo anyways, diarrhea would just rinse away like pee). I would need to rake it somehow. Then I got the idea of using stainless steel BB type pellets instead of gravel. Make it a covered box, with a high powered electromagnet in the cover. After the cat leaves the box, the douche cycle comes on, then after that finishes, the electromagnet kicks on, and WHAM, all the BBs instantly pop up to the roof of the box, then the base uses a robotic arm to swing the rabbit wire base down, and the poop is dumped into the bottom "waste" receptacle. The robotic arm whacks it a few times on a brace built in for that purpose, to get any turds that are clinging to fall off the rabbit wire. Then it swings back up, locks back in place, the magnet shuts off, the litter BBs fall back down, the whole system flushes using the built in toilet-like plumbing that clears the waste receptacle, and it's ready for the next user. LOLOLOL!! OK, so I have too much time on my hands... Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006
Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist) (litter, and my invention, the endless litter litterbox)
LOLOLOL!! OK, so I have too much time on my hands... naw, just too much cat fur on your brain! fleaing -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist)
Since I'm new to this list, I may be jumping in to something that's already been discussed, but I like World's Best Cat Litter. It's made from corn, I think. No pine, no clay, and no perfumes. It does a good job on the odor, too. (Of course, I do scoop every day so it doesn't get to be too much.)~Ashleigh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:really??? I never heard that. They still sell the pine litter and I use it for Quincy. Where did you hear that?I know that cedar is toxic to small animals that use it for bedding... MichelleIn a message dated 5/7/2006 10:23:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought pine resin was toxic to cats, that's why there's the big whoop-te-do over the pine based litters these days... Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase
Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist)
I'm not sure where I first heard that Michelle. It was over a year ago though, on a big list like this one, a huge debate and websites and papers to back it up and to debate it. Lots of controversy. Personally, I use CEDAR litter, the feral cats prefer it, in fact, if I give them clay litter, they use the bedding and refuse the box. They only go in the box if it's got cedarific litter in it. For my housecats, I have 4 boxes, two with scoopable clay litters, one cedarific box, and one box I switch depending on what's on sale. One they all HATE, invariably though, is the Feline Pine. it's pine wood based, but it's big hard pellets, they wont use it, period. Cedarific is very soft fine shavings, more like a coarse sawdust (but it's not dusty). One I really like a lot, is the Feline Fresh scoopable, it's corn or wood based (I forget which now, but they sell it at the all natural food store). The cats like it too, but it's way too expensive for 6 cats. If I were a cat, I would hands down prefer the cedarific, it's so soft, not dusty, and isn't full of strong artificial perfumes, yet still smells good. I think if I could fit, I would curl up in my litterbox and SLEEP on it, LOL! I got tons of warnings and people telling me I was nuts for using it, but so far, NO sick cats, and I've been using it for years now. Still, I was told pine and cedar (and all evergreen resins) are toxic to cats, so I had to mention it. Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006
Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist) (litter, and my invention, the endless litter litterbox)
There's a good wheat based scoopable too, called SWheat Scoop. Never tried it, but have heard good reviews from others (and I believe the clumps are flushable too). I like the idea of corn or wheat based litters, we KNOW those are relatively safe, I mean, they are ingredients in many cheaper cat foods! When they successfully make a GOOD absorbent rice litter I'll be first in line! LOL, I ran out of litter once, but had a big box of cream of wheat breakfast cereal... but it didn't absorb much. I think rolled oats might work though.. anyone got an old bag of quaker oats that's rotting in the pantry, for the sake of science? In the past, when I was really poor (this was years ago, mind you)I just went out into the yard and dug up some dirt to put in the litterbox. Sandy soil is MUCH preferable to good dirt, at least it doesn't turn into mud clods. I'm still trying to figure out my endless litter self-cleaning litterbox. Uses aquarium or pea gravel over a small 1/4 grid rabbit wire base over a dropped "waste" receptacle with built in plumbing so it actually all flushes away, pee goes right through it, then it self rinses it after the cat leaves the box with a non-toxic white vinegar "douche" (you know the floral scented vinegar kind) that is heated and sprays down over the "litter" from above. But the poo is an issue I'm still trying to figure out (solid poo anyways, diarrhea would just rinse away like pee). I would need to rake it somehow. Then I got the idea of using stainless steel BB type pellets instead of gravel. Make it a covered box, with a high powered electromagnet in the cover. After the cat leaves the box, the douche cycle comes on, then after that finishes, the electromagnet kicks on, and WHAM, all the BBs instantly pop up to the roof of the box, then the base uses a robotic arm to swing the rabbit wire base down, and the poop is dumped into the bottom "waste" receptacle. The robotic arm whacks it a few times on a brace built in for that purpose, to get any turds that are clinging to fall off the rabbit wire. Then it swings back up, locks back in place, the magnet shuts off, the litter BBs fall back down, the whole system flushes using the built in toilet-like plumbing that clears the waste receptacle, and it's ready for the next user. LOLOLOL!! OK, so I have too much time on my hands... Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006
Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist)
really??? I never heard that. They still sell the pine litter and I use it for Quincy. Where did you hear that? I know that cedar is toxic to small animals that use it for bedding... Michelle In a message dated 5/7/2006 10:23:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought pine resin was toxic to cats, that's why there's the big whoop-te-do over the pine based litters these days...
fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist)
fyi, since it is an immune booster it probably is not specific to FIV... | Robert McDowell's Herbal Treatments16 April 2006 Herbal Help for Humans and their Companions Feline - Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (FIV) - New Product FIV, Feline immunodeficiency virus is the cause of feline AIDS, it is not the same virus as HIV, the cause of human AIDS. It is a virus, much like feline leukemia, which causes an impaired immune system. It can be a fatal disease, and because it lowers an animal's immune system, secondary infections like pneumonia, lymphoma, anemias or other infections usually cause the pet's death. However its possible for a FIV-positive cat to live for many years without any signs of illness. Risk factors for FIV include age, gender, illness, and time spent outdoors. Older cats are more likely to be infected as are more aggressive male cats that may roam and fight with other cats . Sick cats and free roaming cats are much more likely to have FIV. Transmission is primarily via deep, penetrating bite wounds. These factors make Feline AIDS quite common and generally is passed on through cats saliva . This is good reason to make sure cats are locked up at night. There is a vaccination that can be given (to prevent the cat contracting the disease) and I am sure that your vet has explained this to you. FIV is really a problem of the immunity and as a herbalist I can dramatically improve the Cat's immune system. This without compromising any other medication.Obviously FIV also effects organs within the body, namely the blood and lymphatic systems. On top of this the medications commonly prescribed also place a heavy load on the metabolism in general.I can prepare tonics which support the critical organs and systems within the body.There will be three mixes in the program.1. I would recommend in the first instance a course of my Maritime Pine Antioxidant. This can be found and is described at:http://www.herbal-treatments.com/cat_maritime_pine_bark_extract_pycnogenol.html2. I can also make up a special mix to help manage the FIV symptoms. This mix includes Violet Leaves, Comfrey, Nettle, Echinacea, Hypericum along with Pine , Centaury and Gorse.3. FIV can very well cause a respiratory infection cause by the HIV virus breaking his immunity down and would respond well to my Human Family Flu preparation to be found on my website at;http://www.herbal-treatments.com/herbs_flu.html 5 drops twice per day mixed into smelly food like sardines or something to get her started will clear the infection and if continued will build up the immunity. It would all be fixed within half the bottle. Cats will need to be kept inside of a night time and of course during winter to make sure they are at less risk of contracting any secondary infections.
Re: fw from Robert Macdowell (herbalist)
I thought pine resin was toxic to cats, that's why there's the big whoop-te-do over the pine based litters these days... Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/2006
