Re: thoughts Adri is dead
I can understand your pain. They aren't "just cats" to most of us on this board. I do believe they have souls and will be waiting for us one day. I wish I knew something that could take away the pain but I do not. My prayers are with you.Martha Alejandra Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you.Since I am new in town I do knowmany people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me. I have been thinking very "weir" things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we knowif they don't just disappear? You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have diein other countries in the war,starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; butI never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong? Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Adri is deadDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDTI am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thingwith my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go bewith his brother. Give Chemalots of love. I'll be praying for you.Sheila Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: thoughts Adri is dead
Oh, Alejandra, There is no such thing as "just a cat"(although theremay be afew "just humans" outthere ) :-) Adri was the embodiment of pure love which comes only from God the Creator. Animals DO have souls. Just read the posts about Chessie and you'll see proof of that from those who have replied. If you are Christian, read the bible to know for certain that the have souls. In the story of Noah and the flood, there is mention that if an animal draws human blood it will have to answer for that in the afterlife, plus, why bother saving any animals at all if they weren't worth as much as humans. Christ compares Himself to a lamb...(why if they are of no consquence?).Godnamed us as "stewarts" of the animals...why, if they were inconsquential? In Revelations the angels descend to Earth from Heavenon the backs of horsesHow did they get there if animals have no souls? The Creator loves all Its creations and I don't think He/She/It would suffer to loose one just because the body can no longer hold the soul. Someone once said the reason it hurts so much when they pass is because they take a bit of our soul with them, BUT they leave a bit of their's with us. The reason you cried for Adri and not for some people you've known and loved who have died, He was a daily part of your life, who accepted you for what you ARE not who he wanted you to be. He gave you unconditional love and companionship and asked for nothing but food and love in return. He was SO lucky to have found you! and Adri knew it. You will always be together, bound by love. Try to hold onto that when the sorrow overwhelms. It will get better with time. I promise! Peace and Blessings, T Martha Alejandra Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you.Since I am new in town I do knowmany people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me. I have been thinking very "weir" things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we knowif they don't just disappear? You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have diein other countries in the war,starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; butI never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong? Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Adri is deadDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDTI am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thingwith my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go bewith his brother. Give Chemalots of love. I'll be praying for you.Sheila Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: thoughts Adri is dead
Thank you all. You do not have idea how impotrtant your words are for me. Today I am feeling better.God bless you AlejandraFrom: tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: thoughts Adri is deadDate: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:58:33 -0700 (PDT)Oh, Alejandra,There is no such thing as "just a cat" (although there may be a few "just humans" out there ) :-) Adri was the embodiment of pure love which comes only from God the Creator. Animals DO have souls. Just read the posts about Chessie and you'll see proof of that from those who have replied.If you are Christian, read the bible to know for certain that the have souls. In the story of Noah and the flood, there is mention that if an animal draws human blood it will have to answer for that in the afterlife, plus, why bother saving any animals at all if they weren't worth as much as humans. Christ compares Himself to a lamb...(why if they are of no consquence?). God named us as "stewarts" of the animals...why, if they were inconsquential? In Revelations the angels descend to Earth from Heaven on the backs of horsesHow did they get there if animals have no souls?The Creator loves all Its creations and I don't think He/She/It would suffer to loose one just because the body can no longer hold the soul.Someone once said the reason it hurts so much when they pass is because they take a bit of our soul with them, BUT they leave a bit of their's with us.The reason you cried for Adri and not for some people you've known and loved who have died, He was a daily part of your life, who accepted you for what you ARE not who he wanted you to be. He gave you unconditional love and companionship and asked for nothing but food and love in return. He was SO lucky to have found you! and Adri knew it.You will always be together, bound by love. Try to hold onto that when the sorrow overwhelms. It will get better with time. I promise!Peace and Blessings,TMartha Alejandra Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thank you. Since I am new in town I do know many people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me.I have been thinking very "weir" things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we know if they don't just disappear?You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have die in other countries in the war, starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; but I never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong?Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Adri is dead Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDT I am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thing with my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go be with his brother. Give Chema lots of love. I'll be praying for you. Sheila-Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
thoughts Adri is dead
Thank you.Since I am new in town I do knowmany people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me. I have been thinking very "weir" things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we knowif they don't just disappear? You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have diein other countries in the war,starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; butI never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong? Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Adri is deadDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDTI am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thingwith my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go bewith his brother. Give Chemalots of love. I'll be praying for you.Sheila
Re: thoughts Adri is dead
No, I don't think it's that you are "wrong" -- it's hard for people to grieve for those we don't know. It's part of the human condition. Of course we all feel sympathy for those who are dying in Africa, or in a war, or from starvation -- but it's hard to feel intense grief for people when we have no feelings for them in the first place. We can be sorry for them, we can feel sympathy for the people that love them, but that's all we can do. You are not wrong to feel intense grief for your cat. You loved Adri. She was your fur baby. As for what happens to them when they die -- there are many differing opinions on that issue. Some people think that animals simply cease to exist and that they have no souls. I don't know that I believe thatbecause if God is going to have all the things in heaven that we loved, why would He not have our pets there for us as well? Just because they're "animals", it doesn't mean He doesn't value them too. He created all things, so of course He is concerned for all of His creatures -- great and small. So I cling to the hope that when I pass on to meet the Lord in Heaven, all of my beloved furchildren will be there to greet me as well. Big hugs to you. Terri B. in NJ =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Martha Alejandra Moreno To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: thoughts Adri is dead Thank you.Since I am new in town I do knowmany people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me. I have been thinking very "weir" things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we knowif they don't just disappear? You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have diein other countries in the war,starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; butI never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong? Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Adri is deadDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDTI am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thingwith my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go bewith his brother. Give Chemalots of love. I'll be praying for you.Sheila
Re: thoughts Adri is dead
No it is not wrong Adri, is a part of your life now and forever...cry and embrass your thought and feelingsAdri was not "just a cat" Adri was an extension of your being.Martha Alejandra Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you.Since I am new in town I do knowmany people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me. I have been thinking very "weir" things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we knowif they don't just disappear? You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have diein other countries in the war,starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; butI never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong? Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Adri is deadDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDTI am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thingwith my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go bewith his brother. Give Chemalots of love. I'll be praying for you.SheilaHave a purrfect day Cherie
RE: thoughts Adri is dead
Adri will never disappear she will always be in your heart Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martha Alejandra Moreno Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 8:36 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: thoughts Adri is dead Thank you.Since I am new in town I do knowmany people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me. I have been thinking very weir things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we knowif they don't just disappear? You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have diein other countries in the war,starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; butI never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong? Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Adri is dead Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDT I am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thing with my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go be with his brother. Give Chema lots of love. I'll be praying for you. Sheila
Re: thoughts Adri is dead
Alejandra, I don't think it's wrong to cryfor an animal who has loved you and been with you daily. As horrible as so many situations are around the world, they aren't right in front of us or in our lives every day. And I do believe animals have souls; with all their personality and vibrance,how could they not? I'm glad our support helps you at this difficult time; we are always here for you. HUGSMartha Alejandra Moreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you.Since I am new in town I do knowmany people here. Your words and support mean a lot for me. I have been thinking very "weir" things: Do you think animals have soul? do they move to another place? how we knowif they don't just disappear? You know? I could help notice that I never have cry for the people that have diein other countries in the war,starving in Africa, accidents, etc I mean I feel very sorry and I think it is awfull; butI never have cryed for them as I have cried for Adri. Adri is just a cat. Is it wrong? Alejandra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Adri is deadDate: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:53:51 EDTI am so sorry I know exactly how you feel. I am going through the same thingwith my Buck, but he is still holding on. I think he really wants to go bewith his brother. Give Chemalots of love. I'll be praying for you.SheilaBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
