[Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
Dear all, would welcome your input very much--any ideas you may have on what's wrong with Petey. Background: My FeLV foster kitten Daisy recently went to her (lovely) new forever home. Her companion, also positive, is Petey.. He's 7, and he's the sweetest cat you ever met. He welcomed Daisy (I've seen them together a few times) and they get on great. ~~I just heard the bad news from Lisa (one of Daisy's original rescuers) that Petey is sick. He has *stopped eating*, and it's obvious the emergency vet didn't find the problem. See Lisa's 2 emails below outlining symptoms and xray results---wd very much appreciate your thoughts/opinions as to what might be at the root of Petey's lack of appetite, drooling and hard breathing. I'll pass them asap to Lea (Petey's mom) and Lisa. many thanks---Kerry M. (1st email) Subject: Petey Please send good thoughts to Petey today…Lea called last night at 9PM to ask for my advice because he didn’t seem well; his appetite had been bad since Monday and he was drooling and breathing hard. I told her to head to CVES right away. She called about 10:30 to let me know they were going to take some X-rays and keep him overnight for observation, then off to Family Pet this morning. Let’s all cross our fingers that it’s nothing serious… (2nd email) Subject: Petey update I just talked to Lea. The x-rays last night did not show any problems; heart looked normal, lungs looked normal, kidneys, liver, bowel, etc., all fine. His heart and lungs sounded fine. The vet said his gums were pale but obviously they didn't have any of his previous records to compare with so they are not sure if the gums are paler than they normally are. She ended up taking him back home with her versus leaving him there and they are going in to Family Pet at 11AM this morning. He slept with her last night, soundly, but again this morning did not want any food. I will send another update as soon as I hear more... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
HAS anyone done a CBC? I'm wondering if his red blood cell count is down, which might account for the shortness of breath since they carry oxygen. Pale gums can be a sign of low red blood cells. I'm not a vet, I've just got a dog with low red and white cells from a tick borne disease. Sidney ** Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631252x1201390195/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213968550%3B35701427%3Bh) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
thanks Sidney, good point---I imagine the emergency clinic wd have had to wait for bloodwork results and so presumably the regular vet will do that this morning. Will ask abt CBC and see what it says. From: souther...@aol.com souther...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:40:46 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing HAS anyone done a CBC? I'm wondering if his red blood cell count is down, which might account for the shortness of breath since they carry oxygen. Pale gums can be a sign of low red blood cells. I'm not a vet, I've just got a dog with low red and white cells from a tick borne disease. Sidney ** Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631252x1201390195/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213968550%3B35701427%3Bh) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
My Tucson (pos) has had a couple of episodes where she wouldn't eat. Since she's a hefty 18 lbs and LOVEs her food, that was a signal to me, as were the pale gums and lethargy. Vet did blood work and found very low White Blood Count. He gave her a series of immune-regulin and the wbc bounced back up each time. In the meantime, I was emptying out my refrigerator finding anything at all that she would eat-ham, cheese, tuna fish, tuna water, baby food--I didn't worry about the nutritional value---just wanted to get some food and fluids into her. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing Dear all, would welcome your input very much--any ideas you may have on what's wrong with Petey. Background: My FeLV foster kitten Daisy recently went to her (lovely) new forever home. Her companion, also positive, is Petey.. He's 7, and he's the sweetest cat you ever met. He welcomed Daisy (I've seen them together a few times) and they get on great. ~~I just heard the bad news from Lisa (one of Daisy's original rescuers) that Petey is sick. He has *stopped eating*, and it's obvious the emergency vet didn't find the problem. See Lisa's 2 emails below outlining symptoms and xray results---wd very much appreciate your thoughts/opinions as to what might be at the root of Petey's lack of appetite, drooling and hard breathing. I'll pass them asap to Lea (Petey's mom) and Lisa. many thanks---Kerry M. (1st email) Subject: Petey Please send good thoughts to Petey today�Lea called last night at 9PM to ask for my advice because he didn�t seem well; his appetite had been bad since Monday and he was drooling and breathing hard. I told her to head to CVES right away. She called about 10:30 to let me know they were going to take some X-rays and keep him overnight for observation, then off to Family Pet this morning. Let�s all cross our fingers that it�s nothing serious� (2nd email) Subject: Petey update I just talked to Lea. The x-rays last night did not show any problems; heart looked normal, lungs looked normal, kidneys, liver, bowel, etc., all fine. His heart and lungs sounded fine. The vet said his gums were pale but obviously they didn't have any of his previous records to compare with so they are not sure if the gums are paler than they normally are. She ended up taking him back home with her versus leaving him there and they are going in to Family Pet at 11AM this morning. He slept with her last night, soundly, but again this morning did not want any food. I will send another update as soon as I hear more... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
The ER vet missed congestive heart failure signs on Keisha's chest xrays. She was breathing hard, did not want to eat. She was not FeLV+ but this sounds similar. Encourage her to join Feline Assisted Feeding yahoo group (FAF)..Petey will go into liver failure if she doesn't get him eating. When my asthmatic cat would not eat, the vet said, given a choice between eating and breathing, the kitty would pick breathing. I am guessing the not eating is secondary to the breathing issues. Urgent situation imo. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing My Tucson (pos) has had a couple of episodes where she wouldn't eat. Since she's a hefty 18 lbs and LOVEs her food, that was a signal to me, as were the pale gums and lethargy. Vet did blood work and found very low White Blood Count. He gave her a series of immune-regulin and the wbc bounced back up each time. In the meantime, I was emptying out my refrigerator finding anything at all that she would eat-ham, cheese, tuna fish, tuna water, baby food--I didn't worry about the nutritional value---just wanted to get some food and fluids into her. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing Dear all, would welcome your input very much--any ideas you may have on what's wrong with Petey. Background: My FeLV foster kitten Daisy recently went to her (lovely) new forever home. Her companion, also positive, is Petey.. He's 7, and he's the sweetest cat you ever met. He welcomed Daisy (I've seen them together a few times) and they get on great. ~~I just heard the bad news from Lisa (one of Daisy's original rescuers) that Petey is sick. He has *stopped eating*, and it's obvious the emergency vet didn't find the problem. See Lisa's 2 emails below outlining symptoms and xray results---wd very much appreciate your thoughts/opinions as to what might be at the root of Petey's lack of appetite, drooling and hard breathing. I'll pass them asap to Lea (Petey's mom) and Lisa. many thanks---Kerry M. (1st email) Subject: Petey Please send good thoughts to Petey today�Lea called last night at 9PM to ask for my advice because he didn�t seem well; his appetite had been bad since Monday and he was drooling and breathing hard. I told her to head to CVES right away. She called about 10:30 to let me know they were going to take some X-rays and keep him overnight for observation, then off to Family Pet this morning. Let�s all cross our fingers that it�s nothing serious� (2nd email) Subject: Petey update I just talked to Lea. The x-rays last night did not show any problems; heart looked normal, lungs looked normal, kidneys, liver, bowel, etc., all fine. His heart and lungs sounded fine. The vet said his gums were pale but obviously they didn't have any of his previous records to compare with so they are not sure if the gums are paler than they normally are. She ended up taking him back home with her versus leaving him there and they are going in to Family Pet at 11AM this morning. He slept with her last night, soundly, but again this morning did not want any food. I will send another update as soon as I hear more... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
Hi Kerry, What's his HCT, anemia will cause these types of symptoms. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4011 (20090415) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
Thanks Belinda. I just received the latest on Petey, see below. Will keep you all posted. Kerry Petey is at Family Pet – they’ll do a full blood work-up and probably give him some fluids. The Dr. didn’t seem too optimistic. She thinks his heart murmur is recent – the emergency vet last night heard it and I told him I thought he’d always had that, but the FP vet didn’t have that in any of her notes from her previous times with him. She also thinks his gums are too pale, even for a FeLeuk cat. She looked at his x-rays and thought his small intestine looked abnormal and will have other vets give their opinion. She has a few preliminary ideas - anemia, which could also have something to do with his heart murmur; a gastro-intestinal issue; or, worst case scenario, lymphoma – and I think she mentionedstomach cancer. Hopefully they will be able to rule out or find out more with the blood work. I’m hoping to hear from her within the hour to discuss the results and our options. She didn’t sound very optimistic about any of it. She thought he was quite sick and was very concerned about his heavy breathing during his visit. Will let you know what I find out.. From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:23:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing Hi Kerry, What's his HCT, anemia will cause these types of symptoms. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4011 (20090415) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing
Hi, Before I even read your last e-mail I was going to suggest an abdominal ultrasound to look for lymphoma. One of our cats had lymphoma and it was mis-diagnosed by 4 vets. She ended up having chemotherapy and did really well for 7 years. She eventually died due to a mass in her esophagus, which showed up suddenly. Her symptoms were not eating and heaving breathing. Unfortunately, the mass was inoperable. She was at least 18 years old at this point though. Michele www.veggienumnums.com - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie kerrymacken...@ymail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:31:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing Thanks Belinda. I just received the latest on Petey, see below. Will keep you all posted. Kerry Petey is at Family Pet – they’ll do a full blood work-up and probably give him some fluids. The Dr. didn’t seem too optimistic. She thinks his heart murmur is recent – the emergency vet last night heard it and I told him I thought he’d always had that, but the FP vet didn’t have that in any of her notes from her previous times with him. She also thinks his gums are too pale, even for a FeLeuk cat. She looked at his x-rays and thought his small intestine looked abnormal and will have other vets give their opinion. She has a few preliminary ideas - anemia, which could also have something to do with his heart murmur; a gastro-intestinal issue; or, worst case scenario, lymphoma – and I think she mentionedstomach cancer. Hopefully they will be able to rule out or find out more with the blood work. I’m hoping to hear from her within the hour to discuss the results and our options. She didn’t sound very optimistic about any of it. She thought he was quite sick and was very concerned about his heavy breathing during his visit. Will let you know what I find out.. From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:23:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Petey isn't eating and x-rays have found nothing Hi Kerry, What's his HCT, anemia will cause these types of symptoms. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4011 (20090415) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
