Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

[Amani Oakley]

Yes Ardy. The doxycycline has been found to interfere with RNA replication 
which is how viruses reproduce.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: September-28-16 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Hi Sherri,
Have you tried approaching your vet with the explanation that you heard that 
doxycycline stops the FeLV virus from, I believe, replicating? Amani - is that 
the terminology? Anyway, maybe your vet has not heard about this and may be 
curious enough to let you try it. I really feel the Winstrol course of 
treatment would benefit from doxy and the prednisolone.
Just a suggestion - I know vets can be egotistical and stubborn.
Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Elizabeth, I am so sorry you are having such trouble getting your vet to try 
the meds. I can say personally that in my situation with Bogey, it DOES work. 
She is feeling so much better. I cannot get my vet to prescribe Doxycycline 
though and don't feel like I can push the issue. He has a fragile ego I think 
and I do not want to jeopardize him prescribing the Stanzolol to me. It is a 
dilemma for all of us I think with our vets.

I do so hope you can find someone in your area that is willing to try the 
Winstrol/Stanzolol. Changing vets is a nightmare I know and have been down that 
road myself. But if your current vet still resists and won't even try, I would 
be trying to find another. Do you have a teaching hospital in your area? Purdue 
University (School of Veterinary Science) here in Indiana I know goes above and 
beyond when you take your pet to them...I know this first hand as well for 
another situation I was in with a dog several years ago.

I so wish you luck. Don't give up.

Sherri



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<felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>>
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37


I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and 
actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had already 
started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer instead he 
see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since the doxycycline 
his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency that I have in this 
vet, although she is better than the first who just said to euthanize. Any 
ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled for my area but nothing 
comes up. I live in San Jose Ca

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for ad

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

[Ardy Robertson]

Hi Sherri,

Have you tried approaching your vet with the explanation that you heard that
doxycycline stops the FeLV virus from, I believe, replicating? Amani - is
that the terminology? Anyway, maybe your vet has not heard about this and
may be curious enough to let you try it. I really feel the Winstrol course
of treatment would benefit from doxy and the prednisolone.

Just a suggestion - I know vets can be egotistical and stubborn.

Ardy

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:52 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

 

Elizabeth, I am so sorry you are having such trouble getting your vet to try
the meds. I can say personally that in my situation with Bogey, it DOES
work. She is feeling so much better. I cannot get my vet to prescribe
Doxycycline though and don't feel like I can push the issue. He has a
fragile ego I think and I do not want to jeopardize him prescribing the
Stanzolol to me. It is a dilemma for all of us I think with our vets.

 

I do so hope you can find someone in your area that is willing to try the
Winstrol/Stanzolol. Changing vets is a nightmare I know and have been down
that road myself. But if your current vet still resists and won't even try,
I would be trying to find another. Do you have a teaching hospital in your
area? Purdue University (School of Veterinary Science) here in Indiana I
know goes above and beyond when you take your pet to them.I know this first
hand as well for another situation I was in with a dog several years ago. 

 

I so wish you luck. Don't give up. 

 

Sherri

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

 

I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and
actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had
already started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer
instead he see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since
the doxycycline his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency
that I have in this vet, although she is better than the first who just said
to euthanize. Any ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled for my
area but nothing comes up. I live in San Jose Ca 

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

 

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I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or shoul

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

[Sherri Godschalk]

Elizabeth, I am so sorry you are having such trouble getting your vet to try
the meds. I can say personally that in my situation with Bogey, it DOES
work. She is feeling so much better. I cannot get my vet to prescribe
Doxycycline though and don¹t feel like I can push the issue. He has a
fragile ego I think and I do not want to jeopardize him prescribing the
Stanzolol to me. It is a dilemma for all of us I think with our vets.

I do so hope you can find someone in your area that is willing to try the
Winstrol/Stanzolol. Changing vets is a nightmare I know and have been down
that road myself. But if your current vet still resists and won¹t even try,
I would be trying to find another. Do you have a teaching hospital in your
area? Purdue University (School of Veterinary Science) here in Indiana I
know goes above and beyond when you take your pet to themŠI know this first
hand as well for another situation I was in with a dog several years ago.

I so wish you luck. Don¹t give up.

Sherri



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McCarty <emccart...@gmail.com>
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Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37


I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and
actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had
already started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer
instead he see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since
the doxycycline his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency
that I have in this vet, although she is better than the first who just said
to euthanize. Any ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled for my
area but nothing comes up. I live in San Jose Ca

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438


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> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
> I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
> with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
> is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
> I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
> about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
> scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
> weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
> they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
> to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
> shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
> to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
> it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

[Liz McCarty]

I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and
actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had
already started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer
instead he see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since
the doxycycline his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency
that I have in this vet, although she is better than the first who just
said to euthanize. Any ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled
for my area but nothing comes up. I live in San Jose Ca

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Hi Elizabeth

Only you can say what is right for your little guy. However, I personally
would try the Winstrol and see what response you get with that. You already
had a better response with the Doxycycline, so there is still some hope.
Absolutely steel yourself though, because it is quite likely that your vet
will start pushing for euthanasia if that hasn?t already been suggested.
We?ve all had to deal with that pressure from the vets, on this chatline.
Resist taking him off the doxycycline and get him on the Winstrol if at all
possible. Winstrol has the potential of a quick effect, so you won?t have
to wait weeks and weeks to see if there is a positive effect, especially if
you draw bloodwork before he starts on the Winstrol. You can often see some
quick changes in the haematology profile.

Giving him another transfusion will also give some time for different
things to work, but again, if you aren?t seeing a discernable boost from
the Interferon alone, don?t put all your eggs in that basket. Keep him on
it if you like, but try to get the vet to give you the Winstrol as well.

Amani

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Liz McCarty
Sent: September-27-16 2:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice


I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like