Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
It IS about Harley.  Since he wants to be outside, he could be if he had a nice 
escape proof enclosure so the wood creatures, both nasty and nice can't get to 
him nor he to them and he and some of his house mates can still enjoy the 
"great outdoors" without jeopardizing their lives or your sanity. Harley sounds 
like my Romeo who managed in one year, at my former home to vanish completely 
for two weeks, return, vanish again and return with a broken front leg.  That 
was it for me.  At the new place, which is in the middle of woods somewhere in 
Texas he now has an enclosure with access to a large shed, complete with 
donated air conditioner (it's hot here about 9 months of the year) and his 8 
companion problem and non-problem cats.  Romeo was always an inside cat, always 
a spritzer and always a problem because he used to like to pick fights with 
everyone, even girl cats.  Now he's a mellow fellow and stops to smell the 
roses (actually weeds, no roses
 available).  I'm forwarding some pictures my friend took of my cat sanctuary.  
It cost me about $700 but it's very large, originally housed 14 cats.  Three 
passed away and 2 went back up the hill (steep driveway) to my cat room. 
 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





>
> From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Cc: Lee Evans  
>Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 3:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
> 
>OOPS!  just realized this was not about Harley, but it sure can apply to him.
>
>
>--- Lee Evans wrote: > Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have 
>someone construct an outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley 
>needs a little change of scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem 
>cats as well as the overflow from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to 
>watch birds, deer, coons and other critters from the enclosure because they 
>feel that they are outside.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your 
>weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > 
>From: "dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, 
>November 5, 2012 2:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty > >While 
>we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his owner's 
>lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes out for 
>2 or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground to do 
>their thing and then most come back on the
 deck to lounge in the sunshine.  My problem is that in the last month or so 
Harley insists on being outside all day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral 
and when I refuse to let him out he waits until I am looking and then sprays, 
usually within 3 or 4 feet of me.  I can see it on his face, "I said I want 
out!  Let me out or I will spray everything in site, not to mention pace the 
floor, deliberatly knock theings down."  I have never seen this problem on "My 
Cat From Hell".  Usually bad behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has 
alsways had a loving home with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also 
super active, like a Savannah, jumps 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread dlgegg
OOPS!  just realized this was not about Harley, but it sure can apply to him.


--- Lee Evans wrote: > Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have 
someone construct an outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley 
needs a little change of scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem 
cats as well as the overflow from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to 
watch birds, deer, coons and other critters from the enclosure because they 
feel that they are outside.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: 
"dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, 
November 5, 2012 2:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty > >While 
we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his owner's 
lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes out for 2 
or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground to do their 
thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the sunshine.  My 
problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being outside all 
day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to let him out he 
waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 feet of me.  I 
can see it on his face, "I said I want out!  Let me out or I will spray 
everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly knock theings 
down."  I have never seen this problem on "My Cat From Hell".  Usually bad 
behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a loving home 
with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, like a 
Savannah, jumps so high he hts > his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or 
fly. > katskat1 wrote: >> Lee, >> >> I don't think Oz is going to end up 
being a sprayer but we will have >> to wait and see how he handles it once he 
come out of solitude and, >> hopefully, begins interacting with the other 
cats.  I suspect he may >> end up being a loner but that remains to be seen. >> 
>> As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the >> 
bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in >> the 
bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat >> marker. Right 
on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I >> found that a 
mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to >> neutralize the odor 
so it isn't tempting for the other cats. >> >> As for Polar Bear, he doesn't 
see cats as snacks, he sees them as >> another version of a squeaky play toy 
that self motivates - FAST - and >> he loves it.  The other cats are, for the 
most part, used to it but Oz >> showed no sense of humor and no desire to play 
the first time around. >> Again, time will tell. >> >> k >> >> On 11/5/12, Lee 
Evans wrote: >> > If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will 
eventually get >> > used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and 
spraying, it's >> > sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole 
thing as a bad >> > idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a 
loving human and >> > never spray again. Like I said in another post on this 
topic, the horrid >> > odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally 
disappears once they are >> > neutered and all that you are left with is a 
spritz of pee that can be >> > washed off with lemon detergent or something 
else pleasant.  Most of my >> > enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they 
realized that they were living >> > with a family of rescued cats, no one was 
their enemy any more and they >> > didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  
Now they stick to having a hissy >> > fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping 
contest but I haven't had a real >> > battle or full wall spray job in over two 
years.  My problem here is that >> > lots >> >  of the cats "think" outside of 
the box.  This is an issue that calls for a >> > plastic paint scraper to pick 
up the offering and a bucket lined with a >> > plastic bag to drop it in.  
After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and >> > pail time and the house is 
back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For >> > this I needed a college 
degree. >> > >> > >> > >> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty >> > neighbors too! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 
>>

Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread dlgegg
-i THINK i WILL HAVE TO DO THAT!  Had 20 acres logged this year and think I am 
going to have to spedn all my earnings on Harley.  Right now, he is coming in 
and jumping on the desk, then off, then on, than off.  He either wants out, 
attention or food.  Can't go out because it is 42, raining and windy.  Don't 
want a big vet bill and have to give him meds.  He is not a good patient!  
Maybe I will take a nap.  Especially if I turn on the electric blanket.  Then 
he will quiet down.  It is only when I am up and home that he does this.  When 
I am gone, nothing happens.  It cannot be that he wants to be held and loved, 
he only tolerates that mushy stuff for a minute or two, then wants down.







--- Lee Evans wrote: > Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have 
someone construct an outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley 
needs a little change of scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem 
cats as well as the overflow from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to 
watch birds, deer, coons and other critters from the enclosure because they 
feel that they are outside.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird 
relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: 
"dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Monday, 
November 5, 2012 2:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty > >While 
we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his owner's 
lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes out for 2 
or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground to do their 
thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the sunshine.  My 
problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being outside all 
day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to let him out he 
waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 feet of me.  I 
can see it on his face, "I said I want out!  Let me out or I will spray 
everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly knock theings 
down."  I have never seen this problem on "My Cat From Hell".  Usually bad 
behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a loving home 
with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, like a 
Savannah, jumps so high he hts > his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or 
fly. > katskat1 wrote: >> Lee, >> >> I don't think Oz is going to end up 
being a sprayer but we will have >> to wait and see how he handles it once he 
come out of solitude and, >> hopefully, begins interacting with the other 
cats.  I suspect he may >> end up being a loner but that remains to be seen. >> 
>> As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the >> 
bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in >> the 
bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat >> marker. Right 
on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I >> found that a 
mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to >> neutralize the odor 
so it isn't tempting for the other cats. >> >> As for Polar Bear, he doesn't 
see cats as snacks, he sees them as >> another version of a squeaky play toy 
that self motivates - FAST - and >> he loves it.  The other cats are, for the 
most part, used to it but Oz >> showed no sense of humor and no desire to play 
the first time around. >> Again, time will tell. >> >> k >> >> On 11/5/12, Lee 
Evans wrote: >> > If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will 
eventually get >> > used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and 
spraying, it's >> > sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole 
thing as a bad >> > idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a 
loving human and >> > never spray again. Like I said in another post on this 
topic, the horrid >> > odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally 
disappears once they are >> > neutered and all that you are left with is a 
spritz of pee that can be >> > washed off with lemon detergent or something 
else pleasant.  Most of my >> > enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they 
realized that they were living >> > with a family of rescued cats, no one was 
their enemy any more and they >> > didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  
Now they stick to having a hissy >> > fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping 
contest but I haven't had a real >> > battle or full wall spray job in over two 
years.  My problem here is that >> > lots >> >  of the cats "think" o

Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
Can you enclose with wire mesh a back porch or have someone construct an 
outside cat escape-safe enclosure?  Sounds like Harley needs a little change of 
scenery. I have an enclosure here for some problem cats as well as the overflow 
from my cat room.  They are perfectly happy to watch birds, deer, coons and 
other critters from the enclosure because they feel that they are outside.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





>
> From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 2:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
> 
>While we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his 
>owner's lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes 
>out for 2 or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground 
>to do their thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the 
>sunshine.  My problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being 
>outside all day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to 
>let him out he waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 
>feet of me.  I can see it on his face, "I said I want out!  Let me out or I 
>will spray everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly 
>knock theings down."  I have never seen this problem on "My Cat From Hell".  
>Usually bad behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a 
>loving home with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, 
>like a Savannah, jumps so high he hts
 his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or fly.
> katskat1  wrote: 
>> Lee,
>> 
>> I don't think Oz is going to end up being a sprayer but we will have
>> to wait and see how he handles it once he come out of solitude and,
>> hopefully, begins interacting with the other cats.  I suspect he may
>> end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.
>> 
>> As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the
>> bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in
>> the bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat
>> marker. Right on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I
>> found that a mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to
>> neutralize the odor so it isn't tempting for the other cats.
>> 
>> As for Polar Bear, he doesn't see cats as snacks, he sees them as
>> another version of a squeaky play toy that self motivates - FAST - and
>> he loves it.  The other cats are, for the most part, used to it but Oz
>> showed no sense of humor and no desire to play the first time around.
>> Again, time will tell.
>> 
>> k
>> 
>> On 11/5/12, Lee Evans  wrote:
>> > If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get
>> > used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's
>> > sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad
>> > idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and
>> > never spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid
>> > odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are
>> > neutered and all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be
>> > washed off with lemon detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my
>> > enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they realized that they were living
>> > with a family of rescued cats, no one was their enemy any more and they
>> > didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  Now they stick to having a 
>> > hissy
>> > fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping contest but I haven't had a real
>> > battle or full wall spray job in over two years.  My problem here is that
>> > lots
>> >  of the cats "think" outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a
>> > plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a
>> > plastic bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and
>> > pail time and the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For
>> > this I needed a college degree.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
>> > neighbors too!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> From: Martha Walton 
>> >>To: fel

Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread dlgegg
While we are on this subject, my Harley is my problem.  He was born on his 
owner's lap and has never been outside before I got him at 3 months.  He goes 
out for 2 or 3 hours during the day.  He and the others go down on the ground 
to do their thing and then most come back on the deck to lounge in the 
sunshine.  My problem is that in the last month or so Harley insists on being 
outside all day, 24/7.  He is acting more like a feral and when I refuse to let 
him out he waits until I am looking and then sprays, usually within 3 or 4 feet 
of me.  I can see it on his face, "I said I want out!  Let me out or I will 
spray everything in site, not to mention pace the floor, deliberatly knock 
theings down."  I have never seen this problem on "My Cat From Hell".  Usually 
bad behavior comes from trauma in their past.  He has alsways had a loving home 
with people.  Where does this come from?  He is also super active, like a 
Savannah, jumps so high he hts his head on the ceiling when chasing a moth or 
fly.
 katskat1  wrote: 
> Lee,
> 
> I don't think Oz is going to end up being a sprayer but we will have
> to wait and see how he handles it once he come out of solitude and,
> hopefully, begins interacting with the other cats.  I suspect he may
> end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.
> 
> As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the
> bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in
> the bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat
> marker. Right on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I
> found that a mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to
> neutralize the odor so it isn't tempting for the other cats.
> 
> As for Polar Bear, he doesn't see cats as snacks, he sees them as
> another version of a squeaky play toy that self motivates - FAST - and
> he loves it.  The other cats are, for the most part, used to it but Oz
> showed no sense of humor and no desire to play the first time around.
> Again, time will tell.
> 
> k
> 
> On 11/5/12, Lee Evans  wrote:
> > If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get
> > used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's
> > sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad
> > idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and
> > never spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid
> > odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are
> > neutered and all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be
> > washed off with lemon detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my
> > enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they realized that they were living
> > with a family of rescued cats, no one was their enemy any more and they
> > didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  Now they stick to having a hissy
> > fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping contest but I haven't had a real
> > battle or full wall spray job in over two years.  My problem here is that
> > lots
> >  of the cats "think" outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a
> > plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a
> > plastic bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and
> > pail time and the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For
> > this I needed a college degree.
> >
> >
> >
> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> > neighbors too!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> From: Martha Walton 
> >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
> >>
> >>
> >>Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
> >> everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals & their humans.
> >>
> >>
> >>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1  wrote:
> >>
> >>Thanks all.
> >>>
> >>>Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
> >>>I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
> >>>drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
> >>>bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
> >>>tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
> >>>everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.
>

Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread katskat1
Lee,

I don't think Oz is going to end up being a sprayer but we will have
to wait and see how he handles it once he come out of solitude and,
hopefully, begins interacting with the other cats.  I suspect he may
end up being a loner but that remains to be seen.

As for clean up with mop and pail, my problem is the carpeting in the
bedrooms.  I have laminate flooring in the kitchen/lr/dr but carpet in
the bedroom which is, of course where he sprayed his smelly tomcat
marker. Right on the doorframe between the master bath and bedroom.  I
found that a mixture of about 50/50 white vinegar and water seems to
neutralize the odor so it isn't tempting for the other cats.

As for Polar Bear, he doesn't see cats as snacks, he sees them as
another version of a squeaky play toy that self motivates - FAST - and
he loves it.  The other cats are, for the most part, used to it but Oz
showed no sense of humor and no desire to play the first time around.
Again, time will tell.

k

On 11/5/12, Lee Evans  wrote:
> If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get
> used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's
> sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad
> idea once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and
> never spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid
> odor that accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are
> neutered and all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be
> washed off with lemon detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my
> enthusiastic sprayers gave it up after they realized that they were living
> with a family of rescued cats, no one was their enemy any more and they
> didn't have to set territorial boundaries.  Now they stick to having a hissy
> fit occasionally, maybe a face slapping contest but I haven't had a real
> battle or full wall spray job in over two years.  My problem here is that
> lots
>  of the cats "think" outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a
> plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a
> plastic bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and
> pail time and the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For
> this I needed a college degree.
>
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________
>> From: Martha Walton 
>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
>>
>>
>>Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
>> everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals & their humans.
>>
>>
>>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1  wrote:
>>
>>Thanks all.
>>>
>>>Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
>>>I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
>>>drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
>>>bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
>>>tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
>>>everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.
>>>
>>>I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.
>>>
>>>Kat
>>>
>>>On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green  wrote:
>>>> Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
>>>> vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
>>>> to get her exam and vaccinations.
>>>>
>>>> Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
>>>> Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
>>>> jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
>>>> were here first - or something!
>>>>
>>>> So far they are both doing well.
>>>>
>>>> Kat
>>>>
>>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Lee Evans
If the dog doesn't try to make Oz into a snack, the two will eventually get 
used to each other and set ground rules.  As for Oz and spraying, it's 
sometimes the neighborhood fighters that give up the whole thing as a bad idea 
once they find themselves neutered and cared for by a loving human and never 
spray again. Like I said in another post on this topic, the horrid odor that 
accompanies an intact male cat totally disappears once they are neutered and 
all that you are left with is a spritz of pee that can be washed off with lemon 
detergent or something else pleasant.  Most of my enthusiastic sprayers gave it 
up after they realized that they were living with a family of rescued cats, no 
one was their enemy any more and they didn't have to set territorial 
boundaries.  Now they stick to having a hissy fit occasionally, maybe a face 
slapping contest but I haven't had a real battle or full wall spray job in over 
two years.  My problem here is that lots
 of the cats "think" outside of the box.  This is an issue that calls for a 
plastic paint scraper to pick up the offering and a bucket lined with a plastic 
bag to drop it in.  After everything is cleaned up, it's mop and pail time and 
the house is back to normal until the next day.  Sigh.  For this I needed a 
college degree.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





>
> From: Martha Walton 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 11:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
> 
>
>Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks 
>everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals & their humans.
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1  wrote:
>
>Thanks all.
>>
>>Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
>>I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
>>drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
>>bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
>>tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
>>everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.
>>
>>I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.
>>
>>Kat
>>
>>On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green  wrote:
>>> Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
>>> vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
>>> to get her exam and vaccinations.
>>>
>>> Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
>>> Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
>>> jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
>>> were here first - or something!
>>>
>>> So far they are both doing well.
>>>
>>> Kat
>>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread Martha Walton
Kat, you have such a big heart.  Oz, Miss Kitty are lucky felines.  Thanks
everybody in this group for being so supportive to animals & their humans.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, katskat1  wrote:

> Thanks all.
>
> Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
> I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
> drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
> bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
> tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
> everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.
>
> I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.
>
> Kat
>
> On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green  wrote:
> > Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
> > vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
> > to get her exam and vaccinations.
> >
> > Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
> > Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
> > jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
> > were here first - or something!
> >
> > So far they are both doing well.
> >
> > Kat
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-05 Thread katskat1
Thanks all.

Surprisingly, Oz appears to have sprayed once and nothing since.  When
I brought him home from the vet his poor mouth hurt and all he did was
drink water and sleep.  Now he is up and about, tried leaving the
bathroom once, and while the other cats hissed at him and the dog
tried to chase him, nobody sprayed or fought.  Miss Kitty hisses at
everybody so they hiss back.  It will take a while.

I did get some felaway today to keep on hand.

Kat

On 11/1/12, Kathryn Green  wrote:
> Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
> vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
> to get her exam and vaccinations.
>
> Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
> Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
> jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
> were here first - or something!
>
> So far they are both doing well.
>
> Kat
>

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-01 Thread Susan Hoffman
Plan on keeping Ozzy locked up for a few weeks after his neuter.  It takes at 
least 2 or 3 weeks for that boy smell to go away.  (And it just seems to 
permeate the house.  You may want to cage Ozzy as far away from the living 
quarters as possible.)



From: Lee Evans 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty


You might want to spray something around Ozzy's door to neutralize the scent of 
an intact cat or your other male cats might begin trying to scent things their 
way and you will be mopping up a whole lot of cat pee.  There are sprays with 
pheromones, odor neutralizing sprays and even a catnip spray with natural 
catnip oil.  That may be something to get the cats excited about Ozzy in a 
positive way. 



Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!



From: Kathryn Green 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia org"  
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
to get her exam and vaccinations.

Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
were here first - or something!

So far they are both doing well.

Kat

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-01 Thread Bonnie Hogue
"Felaway" or "Pet-tastc"(cat formula) are great scent neutralizers!

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Kathryn Green  wrote:

> Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
> vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
> to get her exam and vaccinations.
> 
> Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
> Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
> jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
> were here first - or something!
> 
> So far they are both doing well.
> 
> Kat
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty

2012-11-01 Thread Lee Evans
You might want to spray something around Ozzy's door to neutralize the scent of 
an intact cat or your other male cats might begin trying to scent things their 
way and you will be mopping up a whole lot of cat pee.  There are sprays with 
pheromones, odor neutralizing sprays and even a catnip spray with natural 
catnip oil.  That may be something to get the cats excited about Ozzy in a 
positive way. 



 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Kathryn Green 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia org"  
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ozzy and Miss Kitty
 
Tomorrow morning Ozzy goes in for neuter, exam, testing and
vaccinations.  Following day Miss Kitty goes with me to pick up Ozzy
to get her exam and vaccinations.

Gonna have to rob a bank for this but want to get it done quickly as
Oz is causing some unrest within the ranks.  My other cats seem to be
jealous of an intact male and wanna get thru the door to prove they
were here first - or something!

So far they are both doing well.

Kat

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