Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie

2010-07-09 Thread Natalie
I wouldn't stop giving the CoQ10 because it really helps cats with
suppressed immune systems - their gums, teeth - are very susceptible - CoQ10
not only prevents it but is good for so many other things.  What's a little
more powder in their food? Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stacy Zacher
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie


Hi Tanya:

I am so sorry about your Maggie.  My FELV+ kitty was diagnosed with Early
HCM years ago but it never really progressed much beyond a certain thickness
on one side. He also was diagnosed with a perfect valentine shaped heart -
misshapen.  I used to give him CoQ10 - mixed in his canned food - 10 mg per
day for his HCM.  I can't say if it did or did not help but it didn't seem
to hurt him at all. I stopped giving it to him when he was diagnosed with
FELV - no reason really other than I'm giving him so much other stuff right
now! 

Saying purrayers for your furbaby. 
Stacy
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Hello everyone,
? ???It has 
been a while since I have been able to get on. I found out last month 
that my FelV+ Maggie who turned 2 years old 16 days ago was just 
diagnosed with a grade 4/6 heart murmur. She has seen many vets in her
 short life and has not had a detectable one previously not even 7 
months ago when she had her bi-annual physical and blood work. I took her 
in for her physical and because lately she has had some exercise 
intolerance that isn't normal for a 2 year old. Her heart ultrasound 
gave us a diagnosis of hypertrophic 
cardiomyopathy. Her walls were very thick and flow greatly 
reduced. We started he on Enalapril. 
     I was wondering if anyone 
else has had the same diagnosis and if so if there was anything that 
worked well for your little ones. Her heart disease is progressing very
quickly 
and I was told that with her type there isn't anything they can do to 
slow it down, we are only making her more comfortable with the Enalapril
 by making her heart not have to work as hard.
     Any advice is 
appreciated,
Tanya (Maggie's Mom)


stacy_zac...@yahoo.com


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie

2010-07-09 Thread MaryChristine
what, exactly, does CoQ10 prevent?

and could you give some cites to research data on it? i haven't seen
anything in a long time, and would be interested in seeing what the clinical
findings are.

additionally, cats who test positive for the FeLV antigen only once are not
necessarily actually positive. even if they are persistently viremic, they
are just normal cats until and if the virus is activated. while they are
asymptomatic, they are not seriously immune compromised, and presuming that
everything that happens to a cat who happens to FeLV+ is related to that
status is not borne out in the real world of sanctuaries and multi-positive
homes.

i will post, yet again, a link to the american assn of feline practitioners
2008 guidelines for managing feline retroviruses, in a separate post.

MC

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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie

2010-07-09 Thread Sharyl
MC, CoQ10 doesn't cure or prevent anything.  It does seem to support heart 
function.  Most of the folks on the Yahoo heart group use it for their heart 
kitties.  My sweet Albert was given days/weeks to live after going into CHF and 
then being dx with severe HCM.  With the CoQ10 and other supplements he enjoyed 
another 1 1/2 yrs before his heart gave out.   The recommended dose for kitties 
is 30 - 60 mg per day.  

I don't have links to any feline studies but here are links to some of the info 
I have.
http://www.md-phc.com/nutrition/useful.html
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/coq10/
http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WALTHAMOSU2002PID=pr02987
http://drpollen.blogspot.com/2006/07/supplements-for-pets-with-heart.html

Sharyl

--- On Fri, 7/9/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 10:21 AM
 what, exactly, does CoQ10 prevent?
 
 and could you give some cites to research data on it? i
 haven't seen
 anything in a long time, and would be interested in seeing
 what the clinical
 findings are.
 
 additionally, cats who test positive for the FeLV antigen
 only once are not
 necessarily actually positive. even if they are
 persistently viremic, they
 are just normal cats until and if the virus is activated.
 while they are
 asymptomatic, they are not seriously immune compromised,
 and presuming that
 everything that happens to a cat who happens to FeLV+ is
 related to that
 status is not borne out in the real world of sanctuaries
 and multi-positive
 homes.
 
 i will post, yet again, a link to the american assn of
 feline practitioners
 2008 guidelines for managing feline retroviruses, in a
 separate post.
 
 MC



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie

2010-07-09 Thread MaryChristine
thanks, sharyl--i just find it alarming that people will do whatever someone
on a list tells them to, without knowing if there's any value to it. too
often, the only basis for using a product comes from the manufacturer or
supplier, or their paid spokescreatures in drag.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie

2010-07-09 Thread Natalie
This is good info on CoQ10:

Linus Pauling Institute at Oregon State University
Coenzyme Q10 is a fat-soluble compound primarily synthesized by the body and
also consumed in the diet. ... Coenzyme Q10 supplementation has resulted in
clinical and metabolic ...
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/coq10/  

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie

MC, CoQ10 doesn't cure or prevent anything.  It does seem to support heart
function.  Most of the folks on the Yahoo heart group use it for their heart
kitties.  My sweet Albert was given days/weeks to live after going into CHF
and then being dx with severe HCM.  With the CoQ10 and other supplements he
enjoyed another 1 1/2 yrs before his heart gave out.   The recommended dose
for kitties is 30 - 60 mg per day.  

I don't have links to any feline studies but here are links to some of the
info I have.
http://www.md-phc.com/nutrition/useful.html
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/coq10/
http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WALTHAMOSU2002PID=pr029
87
http://drpollen.blogspot.com/2006/07/supplements-for-pets-with-heart.html

Sharyl

--- On Fri, 7/9/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Maggie
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 10:21 AM
 what, exactly, does CoQ10 prevent?
 
 and could you give some cites to research data on it? i
 haven't seen
 anything in a long time, and would be interested in seeing
 what the clinical
 findings are.
 
 additionally, cats who test positive for the FeLV antigen
 only once are not
 necessarily actually positive. even if they are
 persistently viremic, they
 are just normal cats until and if the virus is activated.
 while they are
 asymptomatic, they are not seriously immune compromised,
 and presuming that
 everything that happens to a cat who happens to FeLV+ is
 related to that
 status is not borne out in the real world of sanctuaries
 and multi-positive
 homes.
 
 i will post, yet again, a link to the american assn of
 feline practitioners
 2008 guidelines for managing feline retroviruses, in a
 separate post.
 
 MC



  

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