Re: Bailey is anemic
Hi Belinda, I read your post at the anemia group...I am going to try to tell you what we gave Bandy at first.. We used a terumo syringe with the orange needle, I think it was 25 guage..it is a 1cc syringe..he weighed about 6# then and we gave him.07cc. The first mark on it is .1 so that isn't very much. (little more than 1/2 of one tenth of a cc) I hope I am making sense of this.. His first bottle whichwas 1cc total was $133. So it lasted quite awhile...I think he received 14 shots with 1cc.. I would have to go back to get his records to see how many we gave him...he may have received 3 in a week more than once..I think it had to be every 3 to 4 days...for a week or 2 with weekly checkings of his PCV...His amazingly went up in 2 wks..My vet said she had one other kitty that took almost 9 wks to see a big change...of just 2 to 3 points...Bandy's went to as high as 35 after about 3 wks then sorta just has been staying in the 20's until his last check up.. when he did reach 30 we cut back to 2x a week then once a week until we stopped the end of Aug.. I'm sorry if I have totally confused you..it is hard to explain...I will be going out to Bandy's vets next week so I will look at his records to see exactly what we did.. Our best to you and Bailey, Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: Bailey is anemic
Hi Kerry, Yes I did join the anemia group and am going to get the folic acid you mentioned. Bailey gets alot of the things you mentioned already. My vet also feels Bailey's anemia is non regenerative and if Fred Meyers ever gets my procrit or epogen (procrit is on back order) I will get him started, he is also suppose to get it 3x a week, and then we will do a count recheck. My biggest problem now is weight loss, he is losing weight and even though it is extremely stressful for him I am going to step up the syringe feeding. He is down to 8lbs 4oz, yesterday he was 8lbs 8oz. It isn't going to do either of us any good if he gets HL on top of this. I just pray the stress doesn't put him over the edge. He is extremely sensitive. If my epo or procrit doesn't come in today there is going to be news of a crazy lady in the Fred Meyers in Washington state, I'm really on the verge of losing it. It seems like everything I am trying is getting blocked or messed up and I am barely holding it together. I lost my baby Frankie to anemia back in 1995 (my then vet didn't know hardly anthing about FeLV and how to treat anything). He was at 6 (his count), still eating and looking good, he still weighted about 17lbs., the only reason I took him in was because he had changed his nightly routine and his breathing seemed labored that day. I just had a gut feeling something was wrong. My vet was amazed he was still alive. She wanted me to euthanize him right then and I told her no way. He did pass that night at home. So this is really scaring me ... -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bailey is anemic
Belinda,I am so hoping that Bailey gets his medicine soon and starts to rebound.JoanBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kerry,Yes I did join the anemia group and am going to get the folic acid you mentioned. Bailey gets alot of the things you mentioned already. My vet also feels Bailey's anemia is non regenerative and if Fred Meyers ever gets my procrit or epogen (procrit is on back order) I will get him started, he is also suppose to get it 3x a week, and then we will do a count recheck.My biggest problem now is weight loss, he is losing weight and even though it is extremely stressful for him I am going to step up the syringe feeding. He is down to 8lbs 4oz, yesterday he was 8lbs 8oz. It isn't going to do either of us any good if he gets HL on top of this. I just pray the stress doesn't put him over the edge. He is extremely sensitive.If my epo or procrit doesn't come in today there is going to be news of a crazy lady in the Fred Meyers in Washington state, I'm really on the verge of losing it. It seems like everything I am trying is getting blocked or messed up and I am barely holding it together. I lost my baby Frankie to anemia back in 1995 (my then vet didn't know hardly anthing about FeLV and how to treat anything). He was at 6 (his count), still eating and looking good, he still weighted about 17lbs., the only reason I took him in was because he had changed his nightly routine and his breathing seemed labored that day. I just had a gut feeling something was wrong. My vet was amazed he was still alive. She wanted me to euthanize him right then and I told her no way. He did pass that night at home.So this is really scaring me ...-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Hi Belinda! I'm trying to catch up with the list and just wanted to let you know that you and Bailey are in my thoughts!! Bailey has always been my kitty role model, too...knowing that he has beaten the odds has always given me hope when there's so little of it to go around with this virus, sometimes... :( Give Bailey a big hug and kiss from Ewok and me! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 5, 2006 9:26 am Subject: Re: Bailey is anemic Hi Kerry, Yes I did join the anemia group and am going to get the folic acid you mentioned. Bailey gets alot of the things you mentioned already. My vet also feels Bailey's anemia is non regenerative and if Fred Meyers ever gets my procrit or epogen (procrit is on back order) I will get him started, he is also suppose to get it 3x a week, and then we will do a count recheck. My biggest problem now is weight loss, he is losing weight and even though it is extremely stressful for him I am going to step up the syringe feeding. He is down to 8lbs 4oz, yesterday he was 8lbs 8oz. It isn't going to do either of us any good if he gets HL on top of this. I just pray the stress doesn't put him over the edge. He is extremely sensitive. If my epo or procrit doesn't come in today there is going to be news of a crazy lady in the Fred Meyers in Washington state, I'm really on the verge of losing it. It seems like everything I am trying is getting blocked or messed up and I am barely holding it together. I lost my baby Frankie to anemia back in 1995 (my then vet didn't know hardly anthing about FeLV and how to treat anything). He was at 6 (his count), still eating and looking good, he still weighted about 17lbs., the only reason I took him in was because he had changed his nightly routine and his breathing seemed labored that day. I just had a gut feeling something was wrong. My vet was amazed he was still alive. She wanted me to euthanize him right then and I told her no way. He did pass that night at home. So this is really scaring me ... -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Thanks Jen, He is really depressed after getting fed, but I'm hoping once his tummy gets enough food in it he will forgive me and feel better. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Belinda, Have you tried B12 shots? These sometimes help with appetite and weight loss. Also, is he on periactin? Have you tried the liver shake recipe with him? It might also be worth asking for a dexamethasone shot. That sometimes jump starts them eating, and sometimes also helps with anemia, depending on the cause of it. Michelle
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Hi Michelle, She did give me an appetite stimulent cypro something or other, I gave it to him once, but decided the most effect way to get food into him was by syringing. He had a B-12 shot on Monday, and I have another but don't you have to wait a week or so to give another? My vet is off until tomorrow and I will ask about the dexamethasone shot. Today I am going to get 100 to 120cc's minimum into him unless he throws it up. Got 40cc's into him this morning at 6-6:30 or so, am going to do 20 to 40 more at 10AM. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Thank you Nina. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Thank yo Patti. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Belinda, Did you ever find out if Bailey's anemia was regenerative or non-regenerative? I think this is the same as responsive vs. non-responsive, but if not, someone please correct me. Also, sending healing vibes and prayers Bailey's way. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Bailey is anemic - Wendy
Wendy, My vet feels it is non-regenerative, he had very few imature cells, his bone marrow is trying to make them but not succeeding in making enough. So hopefully the epogen will either kick start him or make enough to sustain him, I'm really not that clear on how it works, just praying it does. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bailey is anemic - Wendy-- how epogen works
My understanding is that it is a synthetic version of a hormone that the kidneys normally excrete which tells the bone marrow to produce red blood cells. If the hormone is low, the bone marrow stops producing. The epogen replaces the hormone and sends a signal to the bone marrow to start making cells again, and if it works they do. Michelle In a message dated 1/4/2006 11:28:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So hopefully the epogen will either kick start him or make enough to sustain him, I'm really not that clear on how it works, just praying it does.
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Belinda I am behind on my emailsmy prayers are with you and Bailey. I feel like I know the furkid since you posted about him for years.. Bless you for all you do see our available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 817-453-4888
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Hi Belinda, I haven't posted Bandy's anemia problems at the yahoo group yet, but I have read alot of things at that group..They have some really good info on anemia just in case you haven't checked it out yet...They have alot of posts and info on epogen... I hope this will help... You 2 are in our prayers, Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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Here's hoping that Bailey improves. He has always been one of the poster cats on this list.Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,My little Bailey is now anemic, he started losing weight over the last 2 months and his count was 22 or 23 about 2 weeks ago and yesterday was down to 18.We are not positive this is exactly accurate because getting bloodfrom him is extremely difficult and yesterday we were only able to getabout 1/2 a vial. His gums are getting pale though and he is sleepingalot and not eating very good. My vet is ordering epogen and we aregoing to be starting him on that. One thing I forgot to ask her is ifit is non-regenerative, will do that today. His bloodwork other thanthat was pretty good, although there was one other thing that was offand I will get copies faxed to me so I can see what that was. He hadxrays a week ago Monday and everything there looked OK.Bailey is 10 years old and has been positive since 5 months of age.Last year he developed pretty bad stomastisis and after tryingeverything under the sun (antibiotics, acupunture, chinese herbs) wefinally pulled all but his canines and tiny teeth in between them.This seemed to take care of the problem until within the lat couple ofmonths. I noticed he wasn't eating as good and that's when we didthis last blood work and found the anemia and that his mouth wasinflamed again. He has been on doxy and busperone and I added antirobe the last couple of days with the vets OK, and his mouth looks nice and healed but his gums are pretty pale. I syringe fed him for a few days and he is eating a bit on his own. If he doesn't pick up his eating today it will be back to syringing again which he really hates.He is on raw which he loves and got up to 11 pounds, but his weightnow is at 8lbs 10oz, so in the last 2 monts he has lost over 2 poundsand a pound of that was in the last 2 weeks.Any suggestions I can bring to my vet?? She is very good about tryingthings I suggest. I seem to remember someone from this list saidthey were having luck with immunoregalan (was that you Kerry?). Has anyone used epogen and immunoregalan together?? I asked my vet about immunoregalan and she said she thought the epogen would be better to try, anyone have any comments about that???Thanks for any ideas or suggestions I can pass on to my vet, and hopeeveryones furkids are doing well!! :)-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Thanks Joan, I have to admit I'm pretty scared and worried. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Bleinda, I am one of the people who has been praising Immuno-regulin, but I used it for difficult URI's, not anemia. Someone else on the list had luck with it raising the WBC count. But the article by Dr. Lees on the website says that he has used it successfully with very anemic positives, so I would try it. I do not see a reason to choose between Epogen and I-R, as they are totally different and do different things (Epogen mimics a hormone from the kidneys while I-R is a bacteria that stimulates the immune system), unless there is a fear that they might interact badly. You might want to call Dr. Lees in Ohio to ask if he has ever used both together. I called him before trying I-R the first time and he was very willing to talk about it. Bandy seems to have done very well, anemia-wise, on folic acid and some other things, including Epogen I think. Did you save the last email about his progress (RBC up to 32, from a low of around 17 I think) and all the stuff he is on? I would definitely try what he is getting, since it seems to be helping a lot. Sending warm thoughts, Michelle
RE: Bailey is anemic
Dear Belinda, I'm so sorry to hear Bailey has anemia. I hope the result shows it's not the nonregenerative type. Sadly I did not have a chance to use the immumoregulin that I obtained for Flavia, so I have no experience of actually using it. But Michelle (Lerner) had used it and it was on Michelle's strong recommendation that I wanted to try it. See below for protocol info, 3 articles on IR, a helpful email from listmemmber Kyle, and the tel # of the supplier (Revival Animal Health in Iowa) who fedexed it to 2 clinics for me overnight in July. (Total per 1 package inc shipping was $50.) IR INFO: Revival's tel no is 800 786 4751. The Revival people were good to deal with and the IR arrived at both vet clinics that I had it sent directly to when it was supposed to (ie overnighted by Fedex). I had never ordered it before and neither vet had ever used it but they were both very positive about doing so and liaised with me about the protocol/how much to use---it comes with directions in any case (although I haven't seen those because it's at the clinics in case I ever need it for Mickey). Revival instructions say a cat of 8lb is administered between 0.25 and 0.5 ml each time. There appear to be 2 possible protocols--4 times in first 2 weeks, then once a week till stabilized, then monthly recommended thereafter for maintenance; OR once a week. Each of the 2 orders I placed with Revival was for 5ml of ImmunoregulinEqstim, and they overnighted it to each of the 2 vet clinics in a Polar box, to be refrigerated once it arrived. THE ARTICLES: http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/opinion.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html This archived site is also worth looking at--an email from web list member Kyle, who had researched and used IR. http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk@felineleukemia.org/msg01946.html. I'm sorry that's about as much as I know of IR but I know you'll get a lot of good advice from others, Belinda. I'm praying for little Bailey's speedy recovery---the little sweetheart sure couldn't be in better hands. love and hugs to you both, Kerry hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Belinda, Please keep us posted on Bailey. I hope that he responds well to the Epogen and I/R. I will keep you and Bailey in my prayers. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
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Best of luck to you, Belinda - I've used Georges Aloe Vera for stomatitis, and also Antirode (Clindamycin), all seemed to help. I've wondered about essential fatty acids to counter wasting. Was reading about CLA (Linoleic Acid?). Lots of good vibes for sweet Bailey. Gloria On Jan 3, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote: Hi All, My little Bailey is now anemic, he started losing weight over the last 2 months and his count was 22 or 23 about 2 weeks ago and yesterday was down to 18. We are not positive this is exactly accurate because getting blood from him is extremely difficult and yesterday we were only able to get about 1/2 a vial. His gums are getting pale though and he is sleeping alot and not eating very good. My vet is ordering epogen and we are going to be starting him on that. One thing I forgot to ask her is if it is non-regenerative, will do that today. His bloodwork other than that was pretty good, although there was one other thing that was off and I will get copies faxed to me so I can see what that was. He had xrays a week ago Monday and everything there looked OK. Bailey is 10 years old and has been positive since 5 months of age. Last year he developed pretty bad stomastisis and after trying everything under the sun (antibiotics, acupunture, chinese herbs) we finally pulled all but his canines and tiny teeth in between them. This seemed to take care of the problem until within the lat couple of months. I noticed he wasn't eating as good and that's when we did this last blood work and found the anemia and that his mouth was inflamed again. He has been on doxy and busperone and I added antirobe the last couple of days with the vets OK, and his mouth looks nice and healed but his gums are pretty pale. I syringe fed him for a few days and he is eating a bit on his own. If he doesn't pick up his eating today it will be back to syringing again which he really hates. He is on raw which he loves and got up to 11 pounds, but his weight now is at 8lbs 10oz, so in the last 2 monts he has lost over 2 pounds and a pound of that was in the last 2 weeks. Any suggestions I can bring to my vet?? She is very good about trying things I suggest. I seem to remember someone from this list said they were having luck with immunoregalan (was that you Kerry?). Has anyone used epogen and immunoregalan together?? I asked my vet about immunoregalan and she said she thought the epogen would be better to try, anyone have any comments about that??? Thanks for any ideas or suggestions I can pass on to my vet, and hope everyones furkids are doing well!!:)
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Belinda, I have no experience with anemia, so can only suggest trying the raw liver shake. But I will keep Bailey and you in my prayers for a quick recovery! Kat (Mew Jersey)
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GLOW for bailey, belinda. no suggestions as the only anemia i've dealt with either was too far gone to treat (back when i didn't know what pale gums meant, sadly), or responded easily to resolving the cause (a really bad flea year, back before topical treatments.) re: the stomatitis, i echo gloria in that antirobe/clindamycin seemed to work really well with the sanctuary cats; my siberian has major problems with it that one vet thought could only be resolved with extraction--another vet had had good results with a 3-shot series of depomedrol one week apart. we did that a little over a year ago, and she hasn't had a recurrence since with bailey's other problems, however, i have no idea how that'd work -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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Healing thoughts coming your way. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro To: FeLV Talk List [New] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: Bailey is anemic Hi All,My little Bailey is now anemic, he started losing weight over the last 2 months and his count was 22 or 23 about 2 weeks ago and yesterday was down to 18.We are not positive this is exactly accurate because getting bloodfrom him is extremely difficult and yesterday we were only able to getabout 1/2 a vial. His gums are getting pale though and he is sleepingalot and not eating very good. My vet is ordering epogen and we aregoing to be starting him on that. One thing I forgot to ask her is ifit is non-regenerative, will do that today. His bloodwork other thanthat was pretty good, although there was one other thing that was offand I will get copies faxed to me so I can see what that was. He hadxrays a week ago Monday and everything there looked OK.Bailey is 10 years old and has been positive since 5 months of age.Last year he developed pretty bad stomastisis and after tryingeverything under the sun (antibiotics, acupunture, chinese herbs) wefinally pulled all but his canines and tiny teeth in between them.This seemed to take care of the problem until within the lat couple ofmonths. I noticed he wasn't eating as good and that's when we didthis last blood work and found the anemia and that his mouth wasinflamed again. He has been on doxy and busperone and I added antirobe the last couple of days with the vets OK, and his mouth looks nice and healed but his gums are pretty pale. I syringe fed him for a few days and he is eating a bit on his own. If he doesn't pick up his eating today it will be back to syringing again which he really hates.He is on raw which he loves and got up to 11 pounds, but his weightnow is at 8lbs 10oz, so in the last 2 monts he has lost over 2 poundsand a pound of that was in the last 2 weeks.Any suggestions I can bring to my vet?? She is very good about tryingthings I suggest. I seem to remember someone from this list saidthey were having luck with immunoregalan (was that you Kerry?). Has anyone used epogen and immunoregalan together?? I asked my vet about immunoregalan and she said she thought the epogen would be better to try, anyone have any comments about that???Thanks for any ideas or suggestions I can pass on to my vet, and hopeeveryones furkids are doing well!! :)-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Me too, Belinda. I hope Bailey starts improving with his eating and with the epogen. I wish I had a better suggestion. I did use immunoregulin withmy CC, but she was not anemic.tonyaJoan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Here's hoping that Bailey improves. He has always been one of the poster cats on this list.Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,My little Bailey is now anemic, he started losing weight over the last 2 months and his count was 22 or 23 about 2 weeks ago and yesterday was down to 18.We are not positive this is exactly accurate because getting bloodfrom him is extremely difficult and yesterday we were only able to getabout 1/2 a vial. His gums are getting pale though and he is sleepingalot and not eating very good. My vet is ordering epogen and we aregoing to be starting him on that. One thing I forgot to ask her is ifit is non-regenerative, will do that today. His bloodwork other thanthat was pretty good, although there was one other thing that was offand I will get copies faxed to me so I can see what that was. He hadxrays a week ago Monday and everything there looked OK.Bailey is 10 years old and has been positive since 5 months of age.Last year he developed pretty bad stomastisis and after tryingeverything under the sun (antibiotics, acupunture, chinese herbs) wefinally pulled all but his canines and tiny teeth in between them.This seemed to take care of the problem until within the lat couple ofmonths. I noticed he wasn't eating as good and that's when we didthis last blood work and found the anemia and that his mouth wasinflamed again. He has been on doxy and busperone and I added antirobe the last couple of days with the vets OK, and his mouth looks nice and healed but his gums are pretty pale. I syringe fed him for a few days and he is eating a bit on his own. If he doesn't pick up his eating today it will be back to syringing again which he really hates.He is on raw which he loves and got up to 11 pounds, but his weightnow is at 8lbs 10oz, so in the last 2 monts he has lost over 2 poundsand a pound of that was in the last 2 weeks.Any suggestions I can bring to my vet?? She is very good about tryingthings I suggest. I seem to remember someone from this list saidthey were having luck with immunoregalan (was that you Kerry?). Has anyone used epogen and immunoregalan together?? I asked my vet about immunoregalan and she said she thought the epogen would be better to try, anyone have any comments about that???Thanks for any ideas or suggestions I can pass on to my vet, and hopeeveryones furkids are doing well!! :)-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bailey is anemic
Hi All, Bailey will be getting epogen tomorrow if it comes in, I ordered it from Fred Meyer and it should be here tomorrow. He will get 400 units 3x's a week and then check his count again. He is eating a bit more today though still not enough and really hating the meds. He is so sensitive, I'm really worried about giving him the meds but he has to have them. I know this is part of the reason he won't eat, he is pouting because I keep putting stuff into him. He has very few immature cells and my vet say's his bone marrow is trying to makes cells but it is just not enough. I asked if the epogen would hurt him if he is still regenerating cells, she said no and she thinks any cat as anemic as he is could benefit from epogen. So positive thoughts this will pull him out of it really, really appreciated :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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PS. His mouth is nicely healed, gums are just too pale. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Belinda, sending positive thoughts. Might it be useful to try the folic acid that seems to help Bandy so much? I have no idea what the cause of Bandy's anemia was or if it was nonregenerative, but I was very impressed by his progress. Michelle
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Michelle, Thank you for finding Kerry's post's, I'm going to print them out and take them to my vet to look over, Bailey gets some of the stuff already (coq-10, omega oils) because I put it in his food, but some of the other stuff I will get also. I just have to be careful how much stuff I put in his food or he won't eat :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Yes, I know that dilemma all too well. Prayers and warm thoughts, Michelle In a message dated 1/4/2006 12:02:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, Thank you for finding Kerry's post's, I'm going to print them out and take them to my vet to look over, Bailey gets some of the stuff already (coq-10, omega oils) because I put it in his food, but some of the other stuff I will get also. I just have to be careful how much stuff I put in his food or he won't eat :)
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Yes the folic acid is one of the things I am going to add. I have to order it, have some other stuff coming also, my kitchen cabinet is full of all kinds of stuff. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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I don't have suggestions to add, I just wanted you to know that I'm sending healing energy for Bailey's recovery and calming strength to see you through. Blessings to you both, Nina Belinda Sauro wrote: Hi All, Bailey will be getting epogen tomorrow if it comes in, I ordered it from Fred Meyer and it should be here tomorrow. He will get 400 units 3x's a week and then check his count again. He is eating a bit more today though still not enough and really hating the meds. He is so sensitive, I'm really worried about giving him the meds but he has to have them. I know this is part of the reason he won't eat, he is pouting because I keep putting stuff into him. He has very few immature cells and my vet say's his bone marrow is trying to makes cells but it is just not enough. I asked if the epogen would hurt him if he is still regenerating cells, she said no and she thinks any cat as anemic as he is could benefit from epogen. So positive thoughts this will pull him out of it really, really appreciated :)
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Belinda~ Sending positive healing vibes for your Bailey!!! ( Several years ago, I took home one of my favorite feral girls, when she was diagnosed terminal, and no one could treat her at shelter. I found a fantastic vet (who wasn't "afraid" of a feral cat), and we treated her with EpogenShe did quite well with it - I pray Bailey has the same positive results!) Hugs, Patti
