Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread maimaipg
Many vets opt out.  They know the pain and expense to the families involved
and may not understand the joys involved in giving a little one a loving,
safe home.even if it is for a little while.  If you have to argue the
point and if he is in no apparent pain perhaps changing vets, or at least
consulting another vet or alternative vet, would be a good idea.  If nothing
else you/she would have a better basis for your decision, not matter what it
is.


- Original Message - 
From: "janine paton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat


> Gloria,
>
> Thanks for that 2c.  I got the feeling the vet was
> leaning towards euth'sia and I didn't want to argue
> the point when I   don't really know what I'm talking
> about.
>
> Janine
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Regarding Emmet, My guess would be that's not
> > necessarily so (that he's
> > dying).  Could be fighting it off.  They can do
> > that.  Could be fighting
> > something else off, like a uri.  Or on the other
> > hand would be developing
> > lymphoma.   WOuld require a vet check.  Might start
> > giving him interferon
> > Alpha, or some other immune system boosters.
> >
> > Just my 2c.
> >
> > Gloria
> > in Arkansas
> >
> > At 09:31 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote:
> > >Hello everyone,
> > >...
> > >The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are
> > swollen
> > >and doesn't give this kitten long.  Is this
> > >necessarily so?
> > >
> > >Their positive mother, who is quite feral,is still
> > >crated weeks after her spay because there is some
> > >conflict as to what to do with her.  She was sick
> > at
> > >the time we trapped her, and very thin, but now she
> > is
> > >eating so well it's hard to look at her like she's
> > >sick.  Her orginal caretaker doesn't want her
> > returned
> > >to her yard, more out of fear that the cat will get
> > >sick again, go off somewhere and die.  The cat was
> > not
> > >a piece of cake to trap in the first place, and is
> > the
> > >most secretive of the adults in the yard, so I can
> > see
> > >where she's coming from.  She doesn't want her
> > living
> > >in a cage either...any thoughts on this?
> > >
> > >Thank you,
> > >
> > >Janine
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>




Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread janine paton
Gloria, 

Thanks for that 2c.  I got the feeling the vet was
leaning towards euth'sia and I didn't want to argue
the point when I   don't really know what I'm talking
about. 

Janine

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Regarding Emmet, My guess would be that's not
> necessarily so (that he's 
> dying).  Could be fighting it off.  They can do
> that.  Could be fighting 
> something else off, like a uri.  Or on the other
> hand would be developing 
> lymphoma.   WOuld require a vet check.  Might start
> giving him interferon 
> Alpha, or some other immune system boosters.
> 
> Just my 2c.
> 
> Gloria
> in Arkansas
> 
> At 09:31 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote:
> >Hello everyone,
> >...
> >The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are
> swollen
> >and doesn't give this kitten long.  Is this
> >necessarily so?
> >
> >Their positive mother, who is quite feral,is still
> >crated weeks after her spay because there is some
> >conflict as to what to do with her.  She was sick
> at
> >the time we trapped her, and very thin, but now she
> is
> >eating so well it's hard to look at her like she's
> >sick.  Her orginal caretaker doesn't want her
> returned
> >to her yard, more out of fear that the cat will get
> >sick again, go off somewhere and die.  The cat was
> not
> >a piece of cake to trap in the first place, and is
> the
> >most secretive of the adults in the yard, so I can
> see
> >where she's coming from.  She doesn't want her
> living
> >in a cage either...any thoughts on this?
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Janine
> 
> 
> 





Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread gblane
Regarding Emmet, My guess would be that's not necessarily so (that he's 
dying).  Could be fighting it off.  They can do that.  Could be fighting 
something else off, like a uri.  Or on the other hand would be developing 
lymphoma.   WOuld require a vet check.  Might start giving him interferon 
Alpha, or some other immune system boosters.


Just my 2c.

Gloria
in Arkansas

At 09:31 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote:

Hello everyone,
...
The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are swollen
and doesn't give this kitten long.  Is this
necessarily so?

Their positive mother, who is quite feral,is still
crated weeks after her spay because there is some
conflict as to what to do with her.  She was sick at
the time we trapped her, and very thin, but now she is
eating so well it's hard to look at her like she's
sick.  Her orginal caretaker doesn't want her returned
to her yard, more out of fear that the cat will get
sick again, go off somewhere and die.  The cat was not
a piece of cake to trap in the first place, and is the
most secretive of the adults in the yard, so I can see
where she's coming from.  She doesn't want her living
in a cage either...any thoughts on this?

Thank you,

Janine





Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread janine paton
Our website is www.adoptapet.org - we have a ways to
go with the site, but if you take a look, Emmet, the
positive kitten with the swollen glands, is on our
home page.  Even tho he's been placed, the picture is
so cute we thought it might help people realize
positive cats need homes too. 

Janine

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> So the mom is FELV+?  Where are you located. One
> possibility is to find a 
> rescue that will take (feral) FELV cats.
> 
> Gloria
> 
> 
> At 09:31 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote:
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >A while back I joined this list after trapping 5
> >kittens who tested positive.
> >
> >Luckily, all 5 have been placed.  One little guy
> named
> >Emmet went to a home as a companion to another
> >positive cat.
> >The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are
> swollen
> >and doesn't give this kitten long.  Is this
> >necessarily so?
> >
> >Their positive mother, who is quite feral,is still
> >crated weeks after her spay because there is some
> >conflict as to what to do with her.  She was sick
> at
> >the time we trapped her, and very thin, but now she
> is
> >eating so well it's hard to look at her like she's
> >sick.  Her orginal caretaker doesn't want her
> returned
> >to her yard, more out of fear that the cat will get
> >sick again, go off somewhere and die.  The cat was
> not
> >a piece of cake to trap in the first place, and is
> the
> >most secretive of the adults in the yard, so I can
> see
> >where she's coming from.  She doesn't want her
> living
> >in a cage either...any thoughts on this?
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Janine
> 
> 
> 




Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread janine paton
Yes, she tested positive with the IFA test.   We are
primarily a small TNR group and don't always test, but
she was so thin and run down, we had her tested.  

The other adults looked OK.  Many of the 14 kittens,
positive and negative, had health issues, which we're
getting through.   

We are based in Stamford, CT, which is south towards
NY City.   
 

Janine

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> So the mom is FELV+?  Where are you located. One
> possibility is to find a 
> rescue that will take (feral) FELV cats.
> 
> Gloria
> 
> 
> At 09:31 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote:
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >A while back I joined this list after trapping 5
> >kittens who tested positive.
> >
> >Luckily, all 5 have been placed.  One little guy
> named
> >Emmet went to a home as a companion to another
> >positive cat.
> >The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are
> swollen
> >and doesn't give this kitten long.  Is this
> >necessarily so?
> >
> >Their positive mother, who is quite feral,is still
> >crated weeks after her spay because there is some
> >conflict as to what to do with her.  She was sick
> at
> >the time we trapped her, and very thin, but now she
> is
> >eating so well it's hard to look at her like she's
> >sick.  Her orginal caretaker doesn't want her
> returned
> >to her yard, more out of fear that the cat will get
> >sick again, go off somewhere and die.  The cat was
> not
> >a piece of cake to trap in the first place, and is
> the
> >most secretive of the adults in the yard, so I can
> see
> >where she's coming from.  She doesn't want her
> living
> >in a cage either...any thoughts on this?
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Janine
> 
> 
> 




Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread janine paton
There are lots of cats I know of that need to be
relocated somewhere but I really can't take them all. 
I already have too many in my yard (and enough under
my  bed) but I'm looking more to address the
caretaker's fear that she will get sick again while
outside, and be impossible to find or trap.  I've been
trapping for years, and really, she is tough.  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I suppose you could release her in YOUR yard... and
> provide shelter and food. Or
> release her in your house.. she'll probably never
> come out from under the bed, but I
> have one like that, and she's no trouble really at
> all.
> 
> Jenn
> http://ucat.us
> http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
> Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
> http://ucat.us/adopt.html
> Adopt a FIV+ cat:
> http://jenn.rescuegroup.org/FELV/FIV/
> Adopt a FELV+ cat:
> http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
>
~~~
> I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3
> yr old special needs cat who must
> live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
> Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to
> KMR, where they add up until she
> earns a free can of formula!
> PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for
> Bazil!
> 
> If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for
> the mailing address you can send
> them to, to help feed Bazil!
> 
> 
> 
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Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread MIRIAM BEBITCH
where are you located? There are some groups that will take feral positive 
cats. You could probably work with her too to socialize her, although it 
would take months. Also, swollen glands don't necessarily mean the end. Some 
FELV pos cats have swollen glands all the time, some non positive cats do 
too. As long as he is playful and eating, I would just keep an eye on it 
with check up from the vet.
- Original Message - 
From: "janine paton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:31 AM
Subject: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat



Hello everyone,

A while back I joined this list after trapping 5
kittens who tested positive.

Luckily, all 5 have been placed.  One little guy named
Emmet went to a home as a companion to another
positive cat.
The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are swollen
and doesn't give this kitten long.  Is this
necessarily so?

Their positive mother, who is quite feral,is still
crated weeks after her spay because there is some
conflict as to what to do with her.  She was sick at
the time we trapped her, and very thin, but now she is
eating so well it's hard to look at her like she's
sick.  Her orginal caretaker doesn't want her returned
to her yard, more out of fear that the cat will get
sick again, go off somewhere and die.  The cat was not
a piece of cake to trap in the first place, and is the
most secretive of the adults in the yard, so I can see
where she's coming from.  She doesn't want her living
in a cage either...any thoughts on this?

Thank you,

Janine







Re: kitten with swollen glands and positive feral mom cat

2005-08-28 Thread gblane
So the mom is FELV+?  Where are you located. One possibility is to find a 
rescue that will take (feral) FELV cats.


Gloria


At 09:31 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote:

Hello everyone,

A while back I joined this list after trapping 5
kittens who tested positive.

Luckily, all 5 have been placed.  One little guy named
Emmet went to a home as a companion to another
positive cat.
The adoptive mom's vet said Emmet's glands are swollen
and doesn't give this kitten long.  Is this
necessarily so?

Their positive mother, who is quite feral,is still
crated weeks after her spay because there is some
conflict as to what to do with her.  She was sick at
the time we trapped her, and very thin, but now she is
eating so well it's hard to look at her like she's
sick.  Her orginal caretaker doesn't want her returned
to her yard, more out of fear that the cat will get
sick again, go off somewhere and die.  The cat was not
a piece of cake to trap in the first place, and is the
most secretive of the adults in the yard, so I can see
where she's coming from.  She doesn't want her living
in a cage either...any thoughts on this?

Thank you,

Janine