Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel 于2023年11月1日周三 08:04写道：
>
> > it would just show up once lets say on a specific day 1 year after the code
> > is added. we would remove it on that day ourselfs.
> > It would just be a simple one time shown message that says
> > "Decoded by ffmpeg.org / Please
Am 31.10.23 um 18:48 schrieb Michael Niedermayer:
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 06:37:58PM +0100, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 6:31 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 07:19:41PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
Le tiistaina 31. lokakuuta 2023, 18.58.57 EET
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 06:37:58PM +0100, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 6:31 PM Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 07:19:41PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > > Le tiistaina 31. lokakuuta 2023, 18.58.57 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit
> > > :
> >
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 6:31 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 07:19:41PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > Le tiistaina 31. lokakuuta 2023, 18.58.57 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> > > > That's not a credible solution for a library. All reverse dependency
> > > >
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 07:19:41PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le tiistaina 31. lokakuuta 2023, 18.58.57 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> > > That's not a credible solution for a library. All reverse dependency
> > > developers would disable that before they ship affected FFmpeg
Le tiistaina 31. lokakuuta 2023, 18.58.57 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> > That's not a credible solution for a library. All reverse dependency
> > developers would disable that before they ship affected FFmpeg versions,
> > or worse, just stop updating their vendored FFmpeg.
>
> If its
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 09:36:13PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le sunnuntaina 29. lokakuuta 2023, 18.12.58 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 04:35:35PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Le 28 octobre 2023 21:01:57 GMT+03:00, Michael
On 26-10-2023 17:45, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
To help 2. we should favor flashy, cool development that can bring in more
donations
Wouldn't it make more sense to fund grunt work that's needed, but no-one
wants to do? I'd imagine there's more developers that like to have their
name
Rémi Denis-Courmont (12023-10-29):
> Be careful what you wish for. Michael started this thread, so I suppose that
> he wants funding for himself and/or for some other key developers. They are
It would be hypocritical of me to take this into considerations.
Corporate sponsorships with strings
Le sunnuntaina 29. lokakuuta 2023, 18.47.34 EET Nicolas George a écrit :
> Rémi Denis-Courmont (12023-10-29):
> > And unfortunately, I do believe that Ronald is correct in pointing out
> > that big companies will want oversight in exchange for money.
>
> And this is why the only acceptable answer
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 8:46 PM Nicolas George wrote:
> Ronald S. Bultje (12023-10-29):
> > *You* may well end up not accepting their offered help, and that's your
> > call to make. But if others in our community end up accepting their
> offered
> > help, there's nothing you can do against it.
>
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 3:46 PM Nicolas George wrote:
> Ronald S. Bultje (12023-10-29):
> > *You* may well end up not accepting their offered help, and that's your
> > call to make. But if others in our community end up accepting their
> offered
> > help, there's nothing you can do against it.
>
Ronald S. Bultje (12023-10-29):
> *You* may well end up not accepting their offered help, and that's your
> call to make. But if others in our community end up accepting their offered
> help, there's nothing you can do against it.
Other in the community are free to do as they choose on their own,
Hi Nicolas,
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:47 PM Nicolas George wrote:
> Rémi Denis-Courmont (12023-10-29):
> > And unfortunately, I do believe that Ronald is correct in pointing out
> > that big companies will want oversight in exchange for money.
>
> And this is why the only acceptable answer is:
Le sunnuntaina 29. lokakuuta 2023, 18.12.58 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 04:35:35PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Le 28 octobre 2023 21:01:57 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
> > >On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael
Rémi Denis-Courmont (12023-10-29):
> And unfortunately, I do believe that Ronald is correct in pointing out
> that big companies will want oversight in exchange for money.
And this is why the only acceptable answer is: to hell with them and
anybody who supports them.
That might make less money
>
> so if we have someone do some payed development work be that one time or
> continous. There would be a contract that says what is going to be done.
> That also would have been approved by the community or GA or whatver and
> the company paying would have a say in whats in that contract, really
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 04:35:35PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 28 octobre 2023 21:01:57 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
> a écrit :
> >On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> Hi ronald
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400,
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 10:17:50PM +0100, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 at 18:21, Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
>
> > Hi ronald
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > > Hi Thilo,
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann via
Hi,
Le 28 octobre 2023 21:01:57 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
>On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
>> Hi ronald
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
>> > Hi Thilo,
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo
On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 at 18:21, Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> Hi ronald
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > Hi Thilo,
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
> > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >
> > > What this is about, is
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 08:01:57PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi ronald
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > > Hi Thilo,
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 8:02 PM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > Hi ronald
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > > Hi Thilo,
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi ronald
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > Hi Thilo,
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
> > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >
> > > What this
Am 28.10.23 um 18:43 schrieb Ronald S. Bultje:
Hi Thilo,
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
What this is about, is to set up a way to properly spend the SPI money
aside
from travel & hw. Why we should not do it because some
Hi ronald
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> Hi Thilo,
>
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
> > What this is about, is to set up a way to properly spend the SPI money
> > aside
> > from travel
Hi Thilo,
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> What this is about, is to set up a way to properly spend the SPI money
> aside
> from travel & hw. Why we should not do it because some companies
> beurocracy, I
> cannot see.
>
I
Hi,
Am 28.10.23 um 16:20 schrieb Ronald S. Bultje:
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:45 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
ATM SPI has like 150k $, we do not activly seek donations, we do not
currently
use SPI money to fund any development. SPI money is
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:45 AM Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
> ATM SPI has like 150k $, we do not activly seek donations, we do not
> currently
> use SPI money to fund any development. SPI money is ultimately controlled
> by
> the FFmpeg
> On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:00 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
> Le perjantaina 27. lokakuuta 2023, 21.52.51 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
> devel a écrit :
>> With a list of FFLabs consultants the "what they work on" can be extracted
>> from the git log or mailing list patches. Not who is
Le perjantaina 27. lokakuuta 2023, 21.52.51 EEST Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
> With a list of FFLabs consultants the "what they work on" can be extracted
> from the git log or mailing list patches. Not who is paying for the work or
> how much is being paid, but certainly the what
> On Oct 27, 2023, at 9:14 AM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>> Consider FFlabs, you can look at who is being paid by FFlabs, its being
>> mentioned in various places.
>> Then look at what these people do, so you know what they are paid for.
>
> I don't know if FFlabs publishes the payments it
Le perjantaina 27. lokakuuta 2023, 19.05.51 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit :
> > This is about the funding organisation(s) and the recipient developer(s)
> > in
> > need of sustainable funding. While my income is public (if you know where
> > to look), I sincerely doubt that many people *here*
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 06:24:58PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>Hi,
>
> Le perjantaina 27. lokakuuta 2023, 15.24.38 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
> devel a écrit :
> > >>> Why should it be via SPI? What's the benefit of that hypothetical
> > >>> future
> additional funding going via
Le perjantaina 27. lokakuuta 2023, 18.08.54 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
> > Do you seriously think this project will have a sudden outbreak of
> > professionalism and suddenly start producing detailed contracts and
> > statements of work?
>
> The current level appear appealing
Hi,
Le perjantaina 27. lokakuuta 2023, 15.24.38 EEST Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-
devel a écrit :
> >>> Why should it be via SPI? What's the benefit of that hypothetical future
additional funding going via SPI, as opposed to:
> >> obviously transparency and community control. None of which is
Am 27.10.23 um 15:38 schrieb Kieran Kunhya:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 at 03:23, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
Am 27.10.23 um 03:28 schrieb Kieran Kunhya:
Hi,
On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 12:41, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
Of
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 06:46:42AM -0700, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 at 05:32, Michael Niedermayer
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:43:34PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer <
> >
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 at 05:32, Michael Niedermayer
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:43:34PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> >
> >
> > Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer <
> mich...@niedermayer.cc> a écrit :
> [...]
> > >* If you have some flashy FFmpeg project you
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 at 03:23, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> Am 27.10.23 um 03:28 schrieb Kieran Kunhya:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 12:41, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
> > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Of course. FFmpeg has a
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:43:34PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
>
>
> Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
> a écrit :
[...]
> >* If you have some flashy FFmpeg project you want to work on with a cost of
> > between 5-15k $ then propose it on the mailing list, make
On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 01:10:15PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 27.10.23 um 12:43 schrieb Rémi Denis-Courmont:
> >
> >
> > Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
> > a écrit :
> > > This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
> > > ATM SPI
Am 27.10.23 um 13:30 schrieb Rémi Denis-Courmont:
Hi,
Le 27 octobre 2023 14:10:15 GMT+03:00, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
ATM SPI has like 150k $, we do not
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 06:28:25PM -0700, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 12:41, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
> ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
>
> > Of course. FFmpeg has a donations account. So the money is already there
> > and
> > already used for the reimbursement
Hi,
Le 27 octobre 2023 14:10:15 GMT+03:00, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
a écrit :
>> Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
>> a écrit :
>>> This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
>>> ATM SPI has like 150k $, we do not activly seek donations, we do not
>>>
Hi,
Am 27.10.23 um 12:43 schrieb Rémi Denis-Courmont:
Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
ATM SPI has like 150k $, we do not activly seek donations, we do not currently
use SPI money to fund any development. SPI
Le 26 octobre 2023 18:45:23 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer
a écrit :
>This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
>ATM SPI has like 150k $, we do not activly seek donations, we do not currently
>use SPI money to fund any development. SPI money is ultimately controlled by
>the FFmpeg
Am 27.10.23 um 03:28 schrieb Kieran Kunhya:
Hi,
On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 12:41, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
Of course. FFmpeg has a donations account. So the money is already there
and
already used for the reimbursement requests. Whatever we spent it for
Hi,
On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 12:41, Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> Of course. FFmpeg has a donations account. So the money is already there
> and
> already used for the reimbursement requests. Whatever we spent it for
> needs to
> be decided by the community.
Am 26.10.23 um 21:02 schrieb Kieran Kunhya:
* If you have some flashy FFmpeg project you want to work on with a cost of
between 5-15k $ then propose it on the mailing list, make yourself ready
for
some paperwork complexities and some public debate as thats the first
time we
try this,
>
> * If you have some flashy FFmpeg project you want to work on with a cost of
> between 5-15k $ then propose it on the mailing list, make yourself ready
> for
> some paperwork complexities and some public debate as thats the first
> time we
> try this, there will be extra issues likely.
Hi all
Many developers no longer live with their parents.
The subject of financial sustainability has come up many times and also
increasingly each year
This is financial sustainability Plan A (SPI)
ATM SPI has like 150k $, we do not activly seek donations, we do not currently
use SPI money to
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