Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-12-06 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Hi again, > I'm very sorry that it took me so long to send this to the list, finally. > Since this is an everlasting topic for years, I wanted to deal > thoroughly with it to have a chance to actually influence the situation. > > Like in many previous years/sessions about FFmpeg development, the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-26 Thread Tobias Rapp
On 24.11.2018 16:32, Tomas Härdin wrote: [...] While I'm in here I have a small suggestion: talking is better than writing when it comes to interpersonal conflicts. Using Mumble or Jingle or whatever and getting the relevant people to talk can be a good way to avoid more drastic measures.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-25 Thread Werner Robitza
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 2:23 PM René J.V. Bertin wrote: > I have had my ML subscriptions set to not receive emails for a few years now. > So when I got the invitation to vote (which I don't consider Spam btw) my > first reflex was to confirm that I do not have any current issues with >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-24 Thread Tomas Härdin
tor 2018-11-22 klockan 21:58 + skrev Rostislav Pehlivanov: > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 19:02, Thilo Borgmann wrote: > +The vote has to implement a direct, free, equal and secret election. > > +The results are to be publicly available. > > +The election should be completed not later than the

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-24 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, I have had my ML subscriptions set to not receive emails for a few years now. So when I got the invitation to vote (which I don't consider Spam btw) my first reflex was to confirm that I do not have any current issues with perceived hostility in the community. Then, when I checked the few

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-23 Thread Jean-Baptiste Kempf
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, at 22:58, Rostislav Pehlivanov wrote: > This is why I'm against formalizing such prodecures. They're too inflexible > and absolute, Enforcement depends on who is enforcing it. Hence elections. > and end up being abused or overused (like videolan's weekly > temporary

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-23 Thread Thilo Borgmann
Am 22.11.18 um 22:58 schrieb Rostislav Pehlivanov: > On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 19:02, Thilo Borgmann wrote: > >> >> Please note that this survey is _not_ meant to be a vote about the >> proposal. It is to >> determine if we should actually have a refinement/vote on instantiating >> such a >>

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-23 Thread Kieran Kunhya
> > > What if a majority of the committee is biased and bans everyone they > disagree with to take over the project? They certainly could. > What if the committee's decision is something the majority of the > developers disagree with? > > This is why I'm against formalizing such prodecures.

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] VDD FFmpeg session and community survey

2018-11-22 Thread Rostislav Pehlivanov
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 19:02, Thilo Borgmann wrote: > > Please note that this survey is _not_ meant to be a vote about the > proposal. It is to > determine if we should actually have a refinement/vote on instantiating > such a > community committee - depending on the community's point of view. >