[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-18 Thread Austin Smith
The current version of Vuescan is v7.6.61. It provides for histograms of both the Preview scan and the record scan. That's what the Preview Hist. and Scan Hist. tabs are. Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-18 Thread LAURIE SOLOMON
of the discussion appears to involve Vuescan since that is what many of his fellow debaters are using. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Austin Smith Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-18 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Laurie, Given the new information, I would say that Austin needs to update his familiarity with VueScan as well since much of the discussion appears to involve Vuescan since that is what many of his fellow debaters are using. You are correct that I (and apparently you as well ;-) weren't

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-18 Thread Austin Smith
You're not alone. I didn't check them until this question came up. I actually thought that Preview Hist. was a log of some kind ;-0 Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Arthur Entlich
I didn't write any of this, nor was I even quoted in any of the exchange. A bit of prejudicial assumption on your part, perhaps? As you will note from your own email software, these quotes were written by Austin. I also do not use Vuescan, but I have not made any comments about it relative to

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Henk de Jong
Austin Franklin writes: I have little experience with Viewscan, No experience at all I think. Austin doesn't know how to spell the name right... -- Henk de Jong http://www.hsdejong.nl/ Nepal and Burma (Myanmar) - Photo Galleries

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread David J. Littleboy
Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't write any of this, nor was I even quoted in any of the exchange. A bit of prejudicial assumption on your part, perhaps? No, no. Just me being dizzy and too hasty. Abject apologies. I also do not use Vuescan, but I have not made any comments

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Marquis-Kyle
Austin Franklin wrote: How does the color calibration in VS work? To close the calibration loop, you really need to take a picture of a known target and do so for each film/development/camera and/or lense (as different lenses render colors differently) etc., and even then there may be

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Frank Paris
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arthur Entlich Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more I didn't write any of this, nor was I even quoted in any of the exchange

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Austin Franklin
Austin, From what I remember Ed Hamrick saying, he uses Kodak calibration data on film types. Bob Frost. Hi Bob, From my experience, I've found that to be rather inaccurate...as I've said, development and exposure play a big part on tonality. Regards, Austin

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Austin Franklin
Henk, Austin Franklin writes: I have little experience with Viewscan, No experience at all I think. Austin doesn't know how to spell the name right... My spelling of it is in fact correct. If you want to fuss about capitalization of the S, fine, but if you look through my posts, you will

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Austin Franklin
Henk, I have little experience with Viewscan, No experience at all I think. Austin doesn't know how to spell the name right... I sit corrected, this product that we are discussing is spelled VUEScan! Which, of course, has no bearing on much of anything...and my misspelling is all you seem

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread LAURIE SOLOMON
compressed, medium quality) to 95 (not compressed very much, high quality). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more Hi

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Marquis-Kyle
LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: I just checked my copy of VueScan ...It does not present a visual histogram of the scanned image... I guess you are using a pretty old version of Vuescan, Laurie? Peter Marquis-Kyle www.marquis-kyle.com.au

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Frank Paris
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more Hi David, But do you scan negative films as positive and invert

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Frank Paris
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more Henk, Austin Franklin writes: I have little experience

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Austin Franklin
Frank, But they don't need being picked on. You do. You're supposed to be an adult. Why not behave like one, especially in public? This is a technical forum, and I believe that most everyone here would appreciate it if you kept your personal issues out of this forum. Austin

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread LAURIE SOLOMON
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Marquis-Kyle Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: I just checked my copy of VueScan ...It does not present

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-17 Thread Clive Moss
Delurk Its the Preview Hist and Scan Hist tabs at the top of the right hand panel. /Delurk At 11:31 PM 9/17/2003, LAURIE SOLOMON wrote: I would welcome any suggestins as to the location of the comand that produces a visual histogram. -- Clive http://clive.moss.net

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Rob Geraghty
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying this applies when using Vuescan - especially with negs? That is probably how every filmscanner that you or I would use, works... The issue is the software (and possibly hardware), and how it allows you to control this...but if you can get

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Rob, Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying this applies when using Vuescan - especially with negs? That is probably how every filmscanner that you or I would use, works... The issue is the software (and possibly hardware), and how it allows you to control this...but

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Frank Paris
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more Hi Rob, Well, I've been around since long before Viewscan...and IMO

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Austin Franklin
Frank, By low end scanners, do you mean something like the Polaroid SS4000? Because VueScan produces much better scans than Polacolor Insight. Viewscan, nor Insight, nor any scanner software produces the scans, the scanner and the scanner operator does. Perhaps it's true that for someone who

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Bob Frost
It is with the Nikon 4000. Vuescan simply saves it as an extra channel if you ask it to. You can then look at it and see what it has marked for removal. Bob Frost. - Original Message - From: Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IR data is simply a fourth channel, and could easily be

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Austin Franklin
Thanks for that info Bob. Does the Nikon 4000 suffer from any focus issues, at least in your experience (assuming you have one)? BTW, do you think the IR dust removal works well? It seems to me that it's (dust problem) exacerbated on scanners that use point light sources, like LEDs... I've

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Frank Paris
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more Frank, By low end scanners, do you mean something like

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Austin Franklin
Frank, Perhaps it's true that for someone who wants the software to simply hand then a scan, Viewscan does a better job at automating the process. And I presume you think this is me? How condescending. Frank, did I say that was you? No, I didn't. Don't read things into what I say that

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread David J. Littleboy
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have little experience with Viewscan, FWIW, Arthur, your cheapshots against Vuescan are really stupid; you don't know what you are talking about. It's a powerful, flexible, scanner driver. It's not about automation at all. The software provided with

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi David, The last I checked, Vuescan doesn't have a curves tool, although it's high on the author's list of things to add. What it does have support for is color calibration. Some of the scanner software has film profiling, and I've done quite a bit of work with it, unfortunately, that only

[filmscanners] Re: 24bit vs more

2003-09-16 Thread David J. Littleboy
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last I checked, Vuescan doesn't have a curves tool, although it's high on the author's list of things to add. What it does have support for is color calibration. Some of the scanner software has film profiling, and I've done quite a bit of work

[filmscanners] Re:24bit vs more

2003-09-15 Thread Rob Geraghty
Austin Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should either get raw data from the scanner, or do the setpoints/tonal curves correctly in the scanner software. Keep in mind, every time you re-do setpoints/tonal curves, you are degrading the data. It's just a fact of how setpoints/tonal curves

[filmscanners] RE: 24bit vs more

2003-09-13 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Rob, I dispute the claim that if you have to do a significant amount of adjustment after scanning that you haven't done it right. It depends on the circumstances. Hum. Obviously, I disagree, and note, it's not just after scanning but after scanning and letting the scanner do setpoints