Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 16:36, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: In dynamic parts, each part is nothing more or less than a special view of the score. The reason that note changes to score are reflected immediately in the parts and vice versa is because

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 16:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: Link/Unlink to score would be great. - Darcy Indeed it would--provided that turning on this feature did not immediately change anything in either linked file. I don't think that's a very good idea. It seems to me that creating an unlinked

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 17:13, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 3:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Do you have a non-USB keyboard port? If so, I'd try getting the keyboard off the USB bus so that MIDI is on USB and the rhythmic values you're typing is *not* on USB. Umm, AFAIK USB is

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David W. Fenton wrote: Well, it can't be done by event count, since you can have a different number of events. If you get 16 from the MIDI interface and 15 from the keyboard, you want the extra from the MIDI interface ignored, because it didn't have a corresponding rhythmic value. Likewise,

Re: [Finale] Another thing Sibelius has

2005-07-07 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton schrieb: I honestly see nothing about any of these suggestions that belongs with what I conceive of as the concept of house styles. I don't for a minute doubt that, but believe me, I thought this through some time ago, and it is pretty much all that is needed. The reason I

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 23:18, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Andrew Stiller schrieb: On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: In dynamic parts, each part is nothing more or less than a special view of the score. The reason that note changes to score are reflected immediately in the

Re: [Finale] Another thing Sibelius has

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 17:23, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 07 Jul 2005, at 4:24 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: While we are on about it: House styles is another area where Sibelius is far superior to Finale. Several times I have suggested ways how some house style functionality could be added

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton schrieb: Well, what about a non-USB MIDI interface? Did they also take away the printer port (isn't that what used to be used for MIDI, given how I remember all the complaints about contention for the port?)? Without wanting to fuel a completely unnecessary platform war

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 07 Jul 2005, at 7:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: High-end machines that are used for music ought to have options. All Macs -- high-end or not -- now have USB 2 and FireWire, both of which have more than enough bandwidth to spare for MIDI. I agree, USB 1.1 is inadequate for MIDI +

Re: [Finale] Dynamic Parts in Finale - multi-file solution?

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 17:50, Darcy James Argue wrote: Robert Patterson and Johannes Gebauer have raised some excellent points about the feasibility of a single-file solution for Dynamic Parts in Finale. There is also the issue of a possible additional performance hit if Finale were to implement

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 23:36, Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: I think the use of a note as denominator would eliminate all these problems. 6/8 would become 2/Q., and would also allow one to notate 6/E if one actually wanted it. I would love this system...but That makes

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread Owain Sutton
David W. Fenton wrote: On 7 Jul 2005 at 23:36, Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: I think the use of a note as denominator would eliminate all these problems. 6/8 would become 2/Q., and would also allow one to notate 6/E if one actually wanted it. I would love this

Re: [Finale] Dynamic Parts in Finale

2005-07-07 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Johannes Gebauer wrote: The smart cue notes plugin doesn't cut it for me, it causes more trouble than it is worth in my experience. Johannes, I'm interested in the problems you've had with this - are you using the one in the TGTools set? Because I find this to be an absolute time-saver in

Re: [Finale] Another thing Sibelius has

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 1:04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: David W. Fenton schrieb: I honestly see nothing about any of these suggestions that belongs with what I conceive of as the concept of house styles. I don't for a minute doubt that, but believe me, I thought this through some time ago, and

Re: [Finale] Dynamic Parts in Finale

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 1:09, Johannes Gebauer wrote: David W. Fenton schrieb: And while we're at it, would it be asking too much to figure out some way to transfer page setup data between platforms? I realize the operation is done completely differently in Mac vs. Windows, but information is

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 19:14, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 07 Jul 2005, at 7:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: High-end machines that are used for music ought to have options. All Macs -- high-end or not -- now have USB 2 and FireWire, both of which have more than enough bandwidth to spare for

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 1:13, Johannes Gebauer wrote: David W. Fenton schrieb: Well, what about a non-USB MIDI interface? Did they also take away the printer port (isn't that what used to be used for MIDI, given how I remember all the complaints about contention for the port?)? Without wanting

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 0:34, Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 7 Jul 2005 at 23:36, Owain Sutton wrote: I think it's the rare performer who ever manages precisely what is indicated. Is that a valid argument for not indicating it at all? I don't think it is. It's not an

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread Owain Sutton
David W. Fenton wrote: On 8 Jul 2005 at 0:34, Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 7 Jul 2005 at 23:36, Owain Sutton wrote: I think it's the rare performer who ever manages precisely what is indicated. Is that a valid argument for not indicating it at all? I don't think

[Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Yates
I thought Windows wasn't getting the useless transparent dialogs until Avalon, with the release of Longhorn. No, on XP. I mentioned it earlier, but it's so useful I'll do so again: Power Menuy, http://www.veridicus.com/tummy/programming/powermenu/, puts transparency options into the context

Re: [Finale] Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!

2005-07-07 Thread Simon Troup
Don't current Macs ship with USB 2 already? Most current macs ship with USB 2, Firewire 400 and Firewire 800. And if I understood Johannes correctly, Macs don't support add-on cards, so how do you add a USB 2 MIDI interface? Of course they do. Mac supports USB and Firewire PCI cards for

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Yates
I'm with you here. And I think Ferneyhough would be, too. But that approach makes a mockery of 2-decimal-point precision. Well, yeah. That's the point. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread Owain Sutton
Richard Yates wrote: Well, I downloaded it, tried it, and looked at your example. I don't get it, though. If there is stuff under the semitransparent box you can't read either. It there is nothing under it, then it does not need to be semitransparent. In your erxample one box covers only a

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 1:05, Owain Sutton wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 8 Jul 2005 at 0:34, Owain Sutton wrote: Of course, I'm something of a heretic in the early music world for ignoring the relationships between meters there, too. I think it's better to take a precise relationship as a

Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 1:21, Owain Sutton wrote: Richard Yates wrote: Well, I downloaded it, tried it, and looked at your example. I don't get it, though. If there is stuff under the semitransparent box you can't read either. It there is nothing under it, then it does not need to be

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread Neal Schermerhorn
Owain Sutton wrote: (7/10, 13/20) Why? It's easily playable, and it's something that cannot possibly be notated another way, unlike x/12. And, like it or not, it's found its way into mainstream notation and publication. I've never seen it. If I bought a piece of music and I saw 13/20 I

Re: [Finale] Another thing Sibelius has

2005-07-07 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Johannes Gebauer wrote: While we are on about it: House styles is another area where Sibelius is far superior to Finale. In my considerations of Sibelius, the closed, proprietary way they treat the data file structure is such an early consideration, that I'm not reached the point of

Re: [Finale] Another thing Sibelius has

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 7 Jul 2005 at 21:21, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: While we are on about it: House styles is another area where Sibelius is far superior to Finale. In my considerations of Sibelius, the closed, proprietary way they treat the data file structure is such an early

[Finale] Re: Vertical Spacing Algorithms

2005-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
while we're on the subject of sibelius, layout control there is quite fast and easy (once you get it figured out). there are different kinds of click-drags available which do different things to the spacing, and reflows are not just RALLY fast, they're immediate. -- shirling

[Finale] combine rhythms/pitches

2005-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
in a 70mm passage for 6 voices, i have renotated the rhythms/durations (attack points remain the same) of the top voice and want to do the same changes to the other 5 voices (all 6 in rhythmic unison). i've tried doing it with TGTools, but you have to have the same rhythms to start with

[Finale] Re: Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
i have avoided any comment on this up to now, because most of the discussion concerned music i am not at all concerned with 8^) however i feel the need to point out that proclamations such as the following are not entirely true, in any absolute sense: From: David W. Fenton 12/12 changes

[Finale] Re: Sibelius - Dynamic Parts

2005-07-07 Thread shirling neueweise
From: David W. Fenton For all those who claim the Sibelius UI is so intuitive, I'd like to hear an explanation. Was I unable to find the methods for accomplishing basic things (i.e., bad UI), or is Sibelius simply unable to do the things I was puzzled by (i.e., badly designed application)? it

Re: [Finale] Re: Sibelius - Dynamic Parts

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Smith
May I, as a longtime Finale user (begining with v.2) who now uses mostly Sibelius (although I have Finale 2005), respond to this post. The reason you can't get Sibelius to work easily is probably because you expect it to act like Finale. It is different. For instance, there is no speedy entry

Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread Owain Sutton
David W. Fenton wrote: Seems to me the problem is not docking your toolbars, not the lack of transparency. Why not dock the palettes at the edge of the screen, as in my Finale in this screenshot? http://dfenton.com/Toolbars.gif I only set up that layout to show the transparency

Re: [Finale] Hey! What's wrong with Creston's 12/12?

2005-07-07 Thread Owain Sutton
Neal Schermerhorn wrote: Owain Sutton wrote: (7/10, 13/20) Why? It's easily playable, and it's something that cannot possibly be notated another way, unlike x/12. And, like it or not, it's found its way into mainstream notation and publication. I've never seen it. If I bought a piece

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