Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: the general level of music literacy among those who were musically literate was higher in 1960 than it is today No, I think it was 100% both then and now ;- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Mar 29, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Irving Berlin's arrangements are pretty good because he had hired an arranger to help him compose his songs. According to the admittedly flawed recent biography As Thousands Cheer, by Laurence Bergreen, Berlin hired not an arranger but an

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
Chuck Israels noted the poor quality of songbooks post 1960 (I mistakenly deleted his posting so I can't quote it). I realize that he was talking about recent publications of old standards, not of recent music, but I thought it would be worth mentioning that piano-vocal publications of rock

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Phil Daley
At 3/30/2006 11:38 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: the general level of music literacy among those who were musically literate was higher in 1960 than it is today No, I think it was 100% both then and now ;- Define musically literate. I

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Mar 29, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Irving Berlin's arrangements are pretty good because he had hired an arranger to help him compose his songs. According to the admittedly flawed recent biography As Thousands Cheer, by

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Chuck Israels noted the poor quality of songbooks post 1960 (I mistakenly deleted his posting so I can't quote it). I realize that he was talking about recent publications of old standards, not of recent music, Yes, that's what I meant,

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Phil Daley wrote: the general level of music literacy has declined In my experience, in my lifetime, this is an understatement. Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:Having worked this way with composers before, I can relate. Sometimes there actually ARE more sophisticated harmonies implied in the melody, but the composer is unable to realise them properly. Who is the composer really, in that case? I have

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Bruce Petherick
Chuck Israels wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Phil Daley wrote: the general level of music literacy has declined In my experience, in my lifetime, this is an understatement. and since I grew up listening to Chuck (no offense meant!) the fact that it has got worse in my

RE: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Williams, Jim
Dear Chuck... THANK YOU for those comments on (mis)interpretation of popular song...I have pasted them in several locations (with your name redacted) for people to see. Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chuck Israels Sent: Thu 30-Mar-06 12:42 To:

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread John Howell
At 9:44 AM -0800 3/30/06, Chuck Israels wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Phil Daley wrote: the general level of music literacy has declined In my experience, in my lifetime, this is an understatement. OK, folks. Before this descends any further into incoherence, it really is

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends, In the interest of accuracy and precision, let me clarify by restating what I meant when I wrote: and the general level of music literacy among those who were musically literate was higher in 1960 than it is today, when for too many, the pinnacle of music literacy is knowing how to

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Kurt Gnos
My statements: This is not absolutely true here in Europe (Switzerland) More kids learn to play an instrument (than in the sixties) piano players play more boogie woogies and pop instead of classical music. Sight reading and musical understanding is detoriating. guitar players play more

[Finale] Font Annotation

2006-03-30 Thread bill
Hi Chuck, Here's the revised annotation file will all characters tweaked. I have some more testing to do, but this might save you some time. Bill Articulations.fan Description: Binary data ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Font Annotation

2006-03-30 Thread Bill
OOOPS!sorry - Original Message - From: bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:42 PM Subject: [Finale] Font Annotation Hi Chuck, Here's the revised annotation file will all characters tweaked. I have some more testing to do, but this might

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Having worked this way with composers before, I can relate. Sometimes there actually ARE more sophisticated harmonies implied in the melody, but the composer is unable to realise them properly. Who is the composer really, in that case? I

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-30 Thread John Howell
At 8:26 PM -0800 3/30/06, Mark D Lew wrote: I think one's attitude toward such a relationship depends on the individuals involved. I once collaborated with a songwriter who did as you describe: He wrote beautiful melodies which were very expressive of his texts, with sophisticated