One hyphen bug is fixed in 2007c: hyphens at the end of a system are
no longer too near to the last syllable of the system. But the
disappearing hyphens still disappear, so hyphens are still in a bad
way: 2007c remains unsuitable for serious publishing with lyrics.
Michael
On 16 Feb
Dear Colleagues!
Having a new problem I can't figure out myself, I turn to you again.
Is there a way to start cue notes IN a multimeasure rest?
Let me explain: the cue notes start with an upbeat (let's say in measure
20), carry on a bit and then the violin sets in. This upbeat is the
First: I don't like this request from your publisher.
However there is a work around:
- after optimizing go to scroll view;
- add a dummy staff and uncheck all items do display in Staff
Attributes, except notes and relatifs. Also uncheck the Option Display
Rests in empty measures;
- insert
I'm afraid I have to agree with Hans that what your publisher is
asking for is, frankly, an absolutely dreadful idea. My first
instinct would be to report back: Sorry, can't be done, I guess
we'll have to go with a 19-measure MM rest.
- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY
On 16
On 16.02.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
I'm afraid I have to agree with Hans that what your publisher is asking for is, frankly,
an absolutely dreadful idea. My first instinct would be to report back: Sorry,
can't be done, I guess we'll have to go with a 19-measure MM rest.
What Minke is
shirling neueweise wrote:
Finale 2007c is available
Hyphens are fixed apparently.
and, that's all.
nice.
Not if you're on a Mac -- it also adds the Kontakt2 player, if I
understand the info on the site.
But if you're on Windows, that really does seem to be all,
At 2/16/2007 06:01 AM, Thurletta Brown-Gavins wrote:
According to MacFixit, Apple finally released a DST patch for those of us
running OS 10.3.9.
http://www.macfixit.com/search.php?productID=31914
Well, that's better than Microsoft.
They have released a patch which our IT group says to not
On Fri, February 16, 2007 7:11 am, Phil Daley wrote:
Well, that's better than Microsoft.
They have released a patch which our IT group says to not download because
it screws up Outlook.
Maybe they should take a look at the Time Zone Data Update Tool for Microsoft
Office
Outlook:
At 2/16/2007 07:28 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Maybe they should take a look at the Time Zone Data Update Tool for
Microsoft Office
Outlook: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931667/en-us.
The last thing I heard was that Microsoft was working on a patch.
This may be what they are looking for.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 16.02.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
I'm afraid I have to agree with Hans that what your publisher is
asking for is, frankly, an absolutely dreadful idea. My first instinct
would be to report back: Sorry, can't be done, I guess we'll have to
go with a 19-measure MM
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 16.02.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
I'm afraid I have to agree with Hans that what your publisher is
asking for is, frankly, an absolutely dreadful idea. My first instinct
would be to report back: Sorry, can't be done, I guess we'll have to
go with a
Minke Hylarides wrote:
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 16.02.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
I'm afraid I have to agree with Hans that what your publisher is
asking for is, frankly, an absolutely dreadful idea. My first instinct
would be to report back: Sorry, can't be done, I guess we'll have to
go
Well, if you do not mind renumbering measures yo can simply add an
extra measure after the multimeasure rest and enter the notes as
pickup notes and then make the right barline invisible.
___
J. Scott Jones
Band/Orchestra
At 09:15 AM 2/16/2007 +1100, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:
Yes, except that would push the durations to the right as well, but I
just want the pitches (i.e. durations stay exactly the same).
I understand what you need -- I've wanted it myself for compositional
purposes, kind of an
THanks for your reply: (I'm assuming this came from Jef) Please see my
responses inserted below.
(1) As a Copyist, I am finding that I am having a hard time locating new
clients, as many composers/arrangers have also purchased
notation packages and do their own work, as have several of my
former
Scott Jones wrote:
Well, if you do not mind renumbering measures yo can simply add an extra
measure after the multimeasure rest and enter the notes as pickup notes
and then make the right barline invisible.
In Fin2007 you don't even have to renumber the measures -- there's a
checkbox in
On 16.02.2007 dhbailey wrote:
In Fin2007 you don't even have to renumber the measures -- there's a checkbox
in the measure attributes to include the measure in measure numbers. Simply
uncheck that box (it's checked by default for every measure that's created) and
it won't mess with the
I have a solution, but it's nasty work. I've encountered similar issues
before and you have to lie to Finale and make it do things it doesn't want
to do.
I'm assuming that your concern here is only with the individual part, and
not the score, so here goes.
In m. 20 (where you want to see the cue
If you have the full set of TG Tools, then TGTOOLS - PITCHES - COMBINE
RHYTHMS AND PITCHES may just do the trick for this.
I find that work like this is often done more clearly when one also has
an extra file open, either one with a few staves or a renamed duplicate
of the main file,
SO what DOES it do if you're on a MAC? (I am and I'm afraid!!!)
I've been waiting for the Kontakt2 Player fix so I can load the complete
Garritan libararies, not just the Finale bundled set. The last time I
tried to use 2007 with Garritan it crashed 20 times in a row while loading
the instruments,
I hate to say it, but this guy (Mr. Jones) has got it all over my advice.
Duh; what a dunce I was. Glad I didn't put myself through all that grief.
Hope the reader didn't.
I think he means make the right barline of the last OLD measure invisible,
not the new measure.
Well, if you do not mind
Actually I was thinking on both parts and score. As a conductor I like
to see everything my orchestra members are reading, For the same reason
I hate concert pitch scores.
Hans
You will excuse me for any typo's due to a visual handicap.
On 16 feb 2007, at 16:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
develop your own fonts.
Here is something that I have not spent a lot of time with, as most of the
time clients have certain preferences I respect.
yeah it's just a suggestion; in those jobs where you have all control
over the look of the work and provide only PDFs it will bring your
add the 8th note (and possibly accidental) as a text expression
aligned to the right barline, attached to the first measure in the MM
rest, with a specific offset to the left of the measure. no worries
about spacing for an empty uncounted measure.
might not work in all cases, depending on
In the score, he wouldn't have the issue of a MM rest, or a cue, yes?
Actually I was thinking on both parts and score. As a conductor I like
to see everything my orchestra members are reading, For the same reason
I hate concert pitch scores.
Hans
You will excuse me for any typo's due
Can one download the C version, if one has not downloaded the B version?
Dean
On Feb 15, 2007, at 11:52 PM, Michael Cook wrote:
One hyphen bug is fixed in 2007c: hyphens at the end of a system
are no longer too near to the last syllable of the system. But the
disappearing hyphens still
On 16.02.2007 Hans Swinnen wrote:
Actually I was thinking on both parts and score. As a conductor I like to see
everything my orchestra members are reading, For the same reason I hate concert
pitch scores.
I am not sure I follow: Do you actually want to see cue notes in the
conductor's
On 16 Feb 2007 at 7:11, Phil Daley wrote:
At 2/16/2007 06:01 AM, Thurletta Brown-Gavins wrote:
According to MacFixit, Apple finally released a DST patch for those
of us running OS 10.3.9.
http://www.macfixit.com/search.php?productID=31914
Well, that's better than Microsoft.
They
Yes, I want to see which cue notes. MM not, of course!
===
On 16 feb 2007, at 17:39, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 16.02.2007 Hans Swinnen wrote:
Actually I was thinking on both parts and score. As a conductor I
like to see everything my orchestra members are reading, For the same
reason I hate
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Johannes Gebauer Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:38 AM To:
finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] left hand, right hand
abbreviation
On 16.02.2007 Guy Hayden wrote:
German l.h. (linkshande) and
The consensus seems to be that I've got a long road ahead of me! For
the record, I intend to publish these works myself - I'm not looking
for a publisher. I just want to secure the rights to publish myself
and make sure any due royalties or fees are paid. I should probably
stick with
From: Matthew Hindson
Does anyone know of a plugin that will rotate pitches around
given note (duration) values?
e.g. in an existing excerpt of music, I want to push all the
pitches 2 notes to the right, while maintaining the existing
rhythm.
Unfortunately, Finale is a notation tool,
Vern,
I have a similar set up (pre-Intel Mac G5), and I have no trouble
with the Garritan libraries. I am not an expert on this (though
there are some on the list), so I have no advice short of contacting
Garritan support. I am just responding to let you know that I don't
think it is a
Here's the answer for those using 9.2.2, hot off the Apple Discussion
Group (the same should apply to all OS before X:
Re: Changes to Daylight Saving TimePosted: Feb 16, 2007 8:29 AMin
response to: Thurletta Brown...
I'll need to make manual adjustments for bootingdirectly into 9.2.2
On 16.02.2007 David W. Fenton wrote:
What truly amazes me is the idiomatic written English of folks like
Johannes -- if I didn't know that he was not a native English
speaker, I don't think I could detect it from his postings on the
list. That humbles me whenever I think I have something to
My German is rather limited and my dictionary is in my car.
However, experience with speaking German in Germany does remind me that,
even though I did not spell the words correctly, I would have been
understood. From a standpoint of the original post, the difference between
the English
`One thing you could try - in the exrtacted part use speedy to enter the cue
note (say, a one note up beat) into an unused layer.
Still using speedy, slowly double click the cue note (if you click too
quickly it will enter another note) This will make the note float. You can
then
move
The only thing Fin2007c addresses is the one hyphen bug. Otherwise,
it's identical to Fin2007b on both Mac and PC.
The only Garritan library to support Kontakt Player 2 is (still) GPO
Finale Edition. It's been this way since Finale 2007 shipped. The
only thing that's new is that in
Thanks Chuck, but MM tech support confirmed that the initial release of
2K7 Kontakt2 wouldn't load the Garritan FULL GPO library. I have
downloaded 2K7b, but have not installed yet, so I will probably try 2K7c
now that Kontakt2 is updated.
By the way, I have been hearing and seeing comments about
One thing I am occasionally asked in Finale workshops is whether
there's a plugin that will automatically add slashes to *beamed*
grace notes. I seem to recall this feature being part of TGTools, but
now I can't seem to find it... ?
Cheers,
- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY
Hello,
I have a client who has written out syllables to be sung using the
International Phonetic Alphabet. Is there a good, freeware font that
includes these characters that will work in FinMac? (i.e., non-Unicode).
Cheers,
- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY
Vern,
Finale 2007 still supports the Kontakt Player 1.x as well as Kontakt
Player 2.x. Since you have a non-Intel Mac, Full GPO and JABB should
work exactly the same as they do in Finale 2006.
You may be interested in consulting my Finale 2007 Garritan
Instruments tutorial, which you can
Darcy-
If you find it again, please let me know. I end up creating a shape which
I assign as an articulation (with a metatool) and attach it to the full
sized note that the grace notes precede. This works very well most of the
time and will move with the music if you change the layouts or respace
Dear Subscribers,
I would like to notify you that a new version of TGTools is available.
As you know, TGTools is a comprehensive collection of plug-ins for
Finale. You can get it from http://www.tgtools.com .
Due to the many different Finale versions that TGTools must support,
and especially
I see that Gary just posted the latest Where We Are At information
in the Northern Sounds forums:
http://northernsounds.com/forum/showpost.php?p=475159postcount=149
Here's the Latest Updated Update of the Update on the Update of the
Update:
The Gofriller Cello
We received the master disc
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=encore-ipa
serif and sans serif
I have a client who has written out syllables to be sung using the
International Phonetic Alphabet. Is there a good, freeware font that
includes these characters that will work in FinMac? (i.e.,
not in TGTools, for sure, i don't recall ever seeing this. would be
happy to find out i was wrong...
I end up creating a shape which I assign as an articulation (with a
metatool) and attach it to the full sized note that the grace notes
precede.
this is the best solution i have found as
Hey Jef,
Thanks, much obliged.
- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY
On 16 Feb 2007, at 2:42 PM, shirling neueweise wrote:
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=encore-ipa
serif and sans serif
I have a client who has written out syllables to be sung using
Darcy-
Thanks, again. I used Kontakt Player 1.x in 2K7 in lieu of Kntk2. I
already knew out of the box it wouldn't work, so I never tried. The
documentation that ships with 2K7 states it will only load GPO/Finale
Bundled instruments set. KntkPyr1.x is the one that crashed on loading in
2K7.
At 11:54 AM 2/16/2007, David W. Fenton wrote:
While I'm equally scornful of Outlook, you don't need to download the
patches -- you can use the time-zone editing tool, instead. Look at
the instructions for Win2K (for which there is no patch).
Oy, I don't want to start 85 more rounds on DST. But
It will work, but the reduction of the grace note sizing affects the
sizing of the slash as well once it is attached. Usually, I don't have to
go back and change it as I place the slashes after the music has been
spaced, and any slight change due to moving systems around is not usually
noticable.
Ah, gracias ...
Dean
On Feb 16, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Michael Cook wrote:
The C version contains all the bug fixes of the A and B versions:
it will update any version of 2007 to 2007c.
On 16 Feb 2007, at 17:12, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Can one download the C version, if one has not downloaded
With an extended trill (with the long jagged line), does this
traditionally go above the note or below? I know that with just the
trill symbol (no extension), it appears above the note. I am working on
a modern performing edition of an early/mid 19th choral work with
orchestra, and in the
Hey Vern,
If you have any suggestions as to how better EQ could improve the out-
of-the box sound of the electric bass (or any instrument) in JABB,
perhaps you wouldn't mind corresponding directly with GPO programmer
Tom Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The JABB sounds were designed to be
It will work, but the reduction of the grace note sizing affects the
sizing of the slash as well once it is attached. Usually, I don't
have to go back and change it as I place the slashes after the music
has been spaced, and any slight change due to moving systems around
is not usually
Michael Lawlor wrote:
From: Matthew Hindson
Does anyone know of a plugin that will rotate pitches around
given note (duration) values?
e.g. in an existing excerpt of music, I want to push all the
pitches 2 notes to the right, while maintaining the existing
rhythm.
Darcy-
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I saw in the pre-release hype from
MakeMusic that the MIXER was to include EQ in the 2K7 upgrade! I even
pre-ordered to get the new version ASAP as I was already on a roll in 2K6
with the Garritan stuff and loving it. That would enable you to do a
Hi Vern,
As you discovered, the Finale mixer is a global setting -- it does
not allow you to EQ each staff individually. That's why the Notation
instruments need to sound good out of the box, with no additional EQ.
I don't think it would be too hard for Garritan to create a
keyswitched
I have done it both ways and haven't noticed any problems with either yet.
The most logical trouble free way is as you said, create it slightly
larger so when it reduces, it will look normal. But it's somewhat specious
to argue placement as the grace notes already have spacing parameters
regarding
But the individual channel EQ is what I thought they were promising in 2K7.
It would be way cool if they actually provide a console board with the
busses and EQ and effect loops. Imagine!
Anyway, I'm trying hard to not spend as much time becoming an engineer and
I am trying to write music, and
At 2:37 PM -0500 2/16/07, Martin Banner wrote:
With an extended trill (with the long jagged line), does this
traditionally go above the note or below? I know that with just the
trill symbol (no extension), it appears above the note. I am working
on a modern performing edition of an early/mid
On Feb 16, 2007, at 11:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Chuck, but MM tech support confirmed that the initial
release of
2K7 Kontakt2 wouldn't load the Garritan FULL GPO library. I have
downloaded 2K7b, but have not installed yet, so I will probably try
2K7c
now that Kontakt2 is
On Feb 16, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Vern,
Finale 2007 still supports the Kontakt Player 1.x as well as
Kontakt Player 2.x. Since you have a non-Intel Mac, Full GPO and
JABB should work exactly the same as they do in Finale 2006.
You may be interested in consulting my
Red Mitchell talks extensively about making the switch to a bass
tuned in fifths in an interview in Art Taylor's _Notes and Tones_.
I love Red's playing -- he is very underrated, IMO.
Maybe so - but certainly not by me!
Solos of Mozartean perfection, the most highly developed melodic
Tobias Giesen wrote:
Dear Subscribers,
I would like to notify you that a new version of TGTools is available.
As you know, TGTools is a comprehensive collection of plug-ins for
Finale. You can get it from http://www.tgtools.com .
Due to the many different Finale versions that TGTools must
Try http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsiid=IPAhome
I have used this font several times.
BF
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hello,
I have a client who has written out syllables to be sung using the
International Phonetic Alphabet. Is there a good, freeware font that
includes
Hi Chuck,
I hadn't thought of replacing the low E string with a low B string.
If you're willing to do that for Gary, that would actually be very
cool. I'll be sure to mention it to him at some point.
Cheers,
- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY
On 16 Feb 2007, at 8:00 PM, Chuck
At 11:59 AM -0500 2/16/07, Bob Shuster wrote:
The consensus seems to be that I've got a long road ahead of me!
For the record, I intend to publish these works myself - I'm not
looking for a publisher. I just want to secure the rights to
publish myself and make sure any due royalties or fees
Sure, Darcy -
It wouldn't be such a big deal - 10 minutes to change the strings,
and a few more to record 6 more notes.
I thought it was a good idea myself!
Chuck
On Feb 16, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi Chuck,
I hadn't thought of replacing the low E string with a low B
Roth Hande? Caught red-handed? Is that one of Satie's funky performance
directions?
Aaron J. Rabushka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://users.waymark.net/arabushk
- Original Message -
From: Guy Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: RE:
Sorry to make this a two-parter... But here's some new information...
Just to test things, I went back to the file I had PDF-ed
successfully and followed all the same steps. Worked like a charm.
So it doesn't seem to be Finale. It seems to be SOMETHING that has
happened to the file I
Here's a poser...
A mysterious problem arose this afternoon -- doing something I've
done successfully before.
FinMac 2k7b on a PowerBook G4, System 10.4.8
Score and parts are linked
I want to print .PDFs of the score and parts.
I select Print
I check the score and parts and click OK
I get
On Feb 16, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Guy Hayden wrote:
Thank you for pointing out my errors. My remorse at being such an
ungracious conversant and miserable lout is immeasurable.
Guy, the *only* error you've made here is to take offense at what was
never offensive. You were absolutely right to
SPAM comes from SPiced hAM. Much as we make fun of it (here in
Hawai'i, too), it was a godsend for those who, during WWII, didn't
really have any other major source of protein. In Hawai'i, that was just
about everyone. That, according to legend, is where our taste for SPAM
comes from. (Vienna
Thank you for all your trouble in helping me out!
First I tried out Hans's idea, but Finale could not understand that I wanted
to have a MM rest in one stave AND stille see the other stave (MM rest =
part, ergo: no other staves are to be seen) (Hans, what did I do wrong?)
Then David's suggestion
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