Re: [Finale] Finale digest

2007-11-01 Thread dhbailey
There were several replies to your query. There seems to be some sort of latency issue with the server at SHSU, so maybe that's affecting the sending of digests as well. I saw your answer and had no reply but others did, so I am hopeful that you will receive the digests which include those

Re: [Finale] Repeat

2007-11-01 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: I have a piece in C time AA'BB'. My source has both repeat signs for A in the middle of a measure. Would it make more sense to fill in the last measure of A to have both repeat signs agree with barlines? Don't know if I'm stating this clearly. There is a pickup bar. And then a

Re: AW: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-01 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:22, Kurt Gnos wrote: Fix its old bugs, but better reprogram it from scratch, using new technologies This is a really terrible suggestion. If you think the bugs in Finale are bad now, wait 'til you see the new programmed-from-scratch Finale.

Re: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-01 Thread dhbailey
John's right -- there are lots of shortcuts. The best thing I can suggest to new Sibelius users is to learn to use the escape key -- hit it whenever you're in doubt (yes, you can still have things selected that you're not viewing onscreen at the moment), and sometimes hitting it twice for

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-01 Thread dhbailey
Richard Smith wrote: Since, from the tone of the list recently, the religious war between Finale and Sibelius seems to be waning as both packages mature and since world wide communications and data sharing have become so instant, I have some questions for the list. What are your thoughts and

Re: [Finale] Refuses to optimize

2007-11-01 Thread Richard Huggins
Very sensical points. In retrospect, a highly intuitive person *might* have made the following observation in my experience, that the fact that the setting returned itself to the Allow Optimization Only If All Staves Are Empty setting, after it clearly had been changed to Allow

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 01.11.2007 Richard Smith wrote: 1. Have we gotten to the point where .PDF is the best way to deliver music to clients and publishers or should editable data files (Finale, Sibelius or others) continue to be expected. 2. Should publishers publishers out source engraving work as

Re: [Finale] Refuses to optimize

2007-11-01 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 31.10.2007 Jari Williamsson wrote: before I realised that I had to REMOVE optimisation before changing the group attributes. Why not just use Scroll View, change the attribute there and then optimize? Hi Jari, and a very warm welcome back on the Finale list! Johannes --

Re: [Finale] very OT notation (burn before reading!)

2007-11-01 Thread Hans Swinnen
Hello John (and David). Thanks for clarification. You know, having worked as a conductor in Germany, the Netherlands and -of course- in my own country, I've been frustrated by many misunderstandings caused by the different pitch names. The B/H discussion invited me to tell something from

Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 repositioning articulations

2007-11-01 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes, I misunderstood. You are right, the Command-A doesn't select all any more in the Articulations tool. Sorry for the confusion. C. On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I think you misunderstood. You used to be able to, on the Macintosh version, switch to Scroll or Page

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-01 Thread Christopher Smith
On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:23 AM, Richard Smith wrote: Since, from the tone of the list recently, the religious war between Finale and Sibelius seems to be waning as both packages mature and since world wide communications and data sharing have become so instant, I have some questions for the

Re: AW: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-01 Thread Jari Williamsson
David W. Fenton wrote: Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire codebase and started from scratch. Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of thinking, using mainly the same kind of tools, will not solve anything. Best regards, Jari Williamsson

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-01 Thread Richard Smith
Christopher Smith wrote: Am I to understand that these answers will serve as ammunition for you in a discussion you are presently having with a client? 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: AW: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-01 Thread John Howell
At 7:59 AM +0100 11/1/07, Jari Williamsson wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire codebase and started from scratch. Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of thinking, using mainly the same kind of tools, will not

Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 repositioning articulations

2007-11-01 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: Yes, I misunderstood. You are right, the Command-A doesn't select all any more in the Articulations tool. One might ask why MakeMusic would remove this very valuable shortcut. Just one of those ways in which they're making Finale better and better with each

RE: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-01 Thread Steve Currington
Ref below for inserted comments -Original Message- From: Eric Dannewitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:30 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions John Howell wrote: Nor if you decide you want to change an

[Finale] Rit. poco vs. Poco rit.

2007-11-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hello, There is a passage in Steven Powell's Music Engraving Today that reads: Ritardando poco is correct Italian, but Poco rit. is often used by publishers. Similarly, diminuendo poco a poco is correct, though poco a poco diminuendo is frequently used. As my editor says, 'an additional

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Nov 2007 at 8:33, Christopher Smith wrote: I have been sending work to other cities while never leaving my basement for ten years now. You must be getting very pasty and white by this time, like those fish who live in the water down in caves with no light. -- David W. Fenton

Re: AW: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Nov 2007 at 4:44, dhbailey wrote: It's quite possible to be successful at it -- it costs money, certainly, but it's something auto makers do all the time. They keep on bringing out annual upgrades to existing models until a whole new model is finally ready to present to the public,

Re: AW: AW: [Finale] Sibelius 5 - Second impressions

2007-11-01 Thread David W. Fenton
On 1 Nov 2007 at 13:47, John Howell wrote: At 7:59 AM +0100 11/1/07, Jari Williamsson wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: Consider the case of Netscape, which chucked its entire codebase and started from scratch. Which is kind of my point. A rewrite, using mainly the same kind of thinking,

Re: [Finale] Some Questions...

2007-11-01 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 31, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Richard Smith wrote: 1. Have we gotten to the point where .PDF is the best way to deliver music to clients and publishers or should editable data files (Finale, Sibelius or others) continue to be expected. I always send PDF files and I think of that as

Re: [Finale] stem question

2007-11-01 Thread Richard Huggins
Couldn't you use stemless noteheads? If you have TG Tools select Modify... select Remove... select Stems and Rests..and you won't have to mess with stems at all. Put your notes in, remove the stems, then ente your bass sstuff. R. On Nov 1, 2007, at 5:03 PM, dc wrote: I enter figured bass