Re: [Finale] Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread John Howell
At 12:39 AM -0400 5/31/09, David W. Fenton wrote: On 30 May 2009 at 19:21, Christopher Smith wrote: Things that are not easy to accomplish in Finale or Sibelius simply don't appear in notation very often any more. I would include some specialised jazz notations among those items, though I

Re: [Finale] Re: Sibelius 6 :: Finale discouraging upgrades

2009-05-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
David W. Fenton wrote: On 30 May 2009 at 20:26, Craig Parmerlee wrote: The obvious solution is to program each release such that it can read future files but simply ignore any elements it doesn't recognize. If Finale worked this way, I would automatically purchase every upgrade.

Re: [Finale] Re: Sibelius 6 :: Finale discouraging upgrades

2009-05-31 Thread Phil Daley
At 5/31/2009 01:14 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: I agree with your comments about the trade-offs of filters versus XML. I would be just as happy if I knew I could send a 2010 filter to any collaborators so that they could open my 2010 files. Not to nitpick, but 2 additional points: 1) Even in a

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Torges Gerhard
Hello! Am 30.05.2009 um 01:57 schrieb David W. Fenton: We're well aware of the fact that MM is working towards promoting Simple over Speedy for new users. Add to that the fact that they are careless enough as to not mention it in their page on all the various methods for entering notes:

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Eric Dannewitz
No, that is NOT Speedy. Speedy allows you to be holding down a chord and then deciding on the notes value. Sibelius, as far as I know, does not have this. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Torges Gerhard gh.nos...@gmx.de wrote: No other? Well, I know another one ... ;-) If they are trying to

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 31, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Torges Gerhard wrote: Hello! Am 30.05.2009 um 01:57 schrieb David W. Fenton: http://www.finalemusic.com/Finale/features/enteringnotes/default.aspx If they are trying to promote Finale on the grounds of versatility of getting notes into your files, why do they

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread John Howell
At 2:22 PM -0700 5/31/09, Eric Dannewitz wrote: No, that is NOT Speedy. Speedy allows you to be holding down a chord and then deciding on the notes value. Sibelius, as far as I know, does not have this. I fully realize that different people have different ways of working, but I find this

Re: [Finale] Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 May 2009 at 13:05, John Howell wrote: At 12:39 AM -0400 5/31/09, David W. Fenton wrote: The old dot vs. stroke controversy c. 1800 has always struck me as an interesting example of engravers having to make decisions on which engraving tool to use when copying from a manuscript in which

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Adam Golding
2009/5/31 John Howell john.how...@vt.edu At 2:22 PM -0700 5/31/09, Eric Dannewitz wrote: No, that is NOT Speedy. Speedy allows you to be holding down a chord and then deciding on the notes value. Sibelius, as far as I know, does not have this. I fully realize that different people have

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 5/31/2009 8:43 PM, John Howell wrote: I fully realize that different people have different ways of working, but I find this particular argument (duration before pitch or pitch before duration) rather amusing. In hand copying (remember doing THAT, anyone?!!), you do both simultaneously,

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 May 2009 at 23:08, Torges Gerhard wrote: Am 30.05.2009 um 01:57 schrieb David W. Fenton: If they are trying to promote Finale on the grounds of versatility of getting notes into your files, why do they leave out one of the main methods, Speedy entry? They didn't. Look: *

Re: [Finale] Re: Sibelius 6 :: Finale discouraging upgrades

2009-05-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 May 2009 at 14:04, Craig Parmerlee wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 30 May 2009 at 20:26, Craig Parmerlee wrote: The obvious solution is to program each release such that it can read future files but simply ignore any elements it doesn't recognize. If Finale worked this

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Not necessarily..For example, when I am writing out something, I frequently go through and block out chords, then go back and do the duration. And speedy also lets me play or even keep sounding the chord before and lets me play/mess around with different voicings before putting them into

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Carl Dershem
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Not necessarily..For example, when I am writing out something, I frequently go through and block out chords, then go back and do the duration. And speedy also lets me play or even keep sounding the chord before and lets me play/mess around with different voicings

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread John Howell
At 8:58 PM -0400 5/31/09, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 5/31/2009 8:43 PM, John Howell wrote: I fully realize that different people have different ways of working, but I find this particular argument (duration before pitch or pitch before duration) rather amusing. In hand copying (remember doing

Dots / Strokes / Daggers was orginally Re: [Finale] Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
At 12:39 AM -0400 5/31/09, David W. Fenton wrote: The old dot vs. stroke controversy c. 1800 has always struck me as an interesting example of engravers having to make decisions on which engraving tool to use when copying from a manuscript in which the staccatto marks could vary from a dot

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 31, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Adam Golding wrote: 2009/5/31 John Howell john.how...@vt.edu At 2:22 PM -0700 5/31/09, Eric Dannewitz wrote: No, that is NOT Speedy. Speedy allows you to be holding down a chord and then deciding on the notes value. Sibelius, as far as I know, does not have

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 31, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 5/31/2009 8:43 PM, John Howell wrote: I fully realize that different people have different ways of working, but I find this particular argument (duration before pitch or pitch before duration) rather amusing. In hand copying (remember

Re: Dots / Strokes / Daggers was orginally Re: [Finale] Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread David W. Fenton
On 31 May 2009 at 21:42, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: At 12:39 AM -0400 5/31/09, David W. Fenton wrote: The old dot vs. stroke controversy c. 1800 has always struck me as an interesting example of engravers having to make decisions on which engraving tool to use when copying from a

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 5/31/2009 9:39 PM, John Howell wrote: Hi, Aaron. Not meaning to be picky, but you're breaking a single integrated action up into two distinct actions (which is what Finale, Sibelius, and Mosaic all do). When I move my hand I already know both the pitch and the duration I'm going to write,

Re: [Finale] Re: Fin2010 announced

2009-05-31 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 5/31/2009 9:48 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Sure you can. I do it all the time. It's a great way to compose, actually, writing the rhythms and maybe an approximate contour, then go back and choose the pitches. I can only do it with a pencil, though (so far!) But I think you two are talking

Re: [Finale] Re: Sibelius 6 :: Finale discouraging upgrades

2009-05-31 Thread Craig Parmerlee
The database doesn't have to be fast. The objects are stored in memory during program execution. The penalty would only apply when opening or saving files. If there is a decoding penalty during runtime it would surely be negligible. But the underlying premise of that argument, if I

Re: [Finale] Audacity

2009-05-31 Thread shirling neueweise
manual here, i haven't read it, but maybe the info is there http://en.flossmanuals.net/audacity ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Audacity

2009-05-31 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Many thanks ... for some reason, I couldn't get to that page with my browser .. Safari, but this came up in Firefox with no prob. Thanks again, Dean On May 31, 2009, at 9:05 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: manual here, i haven't read it, but maybe the info is there