Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
On 2008/08/03(日), at 後2:44, Darcy James Argue wrote: I am talking about Finale's Setup Wizard. The JABB instruments are loaded via the Kontakt Player, which comes with JABB. Sorry I wasn't clear. My question was that: If you install Finale after Garritan commercial package, they won't

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-03 Thread A-NO-NE Music
On 2008/08/02(土), at 後8:52, Darcy James Argue wrote: Once installed, the full JABB instruments will show up in Finale's Setup Wizard. You are talking about Kontact Player, not Kontact, right? I have never seen instrument.txt file that works for Kontact. This has been really

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
I am talking about Finale's Setup Wizard. The JABB instruments are loaded via the Kontakt Player, which comes with JABB. I don't own the standalone Kontakt and have never tried to use it with Finale. On 3 Aug 2008, at 1:40 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: On 2008/08/02(土), at 後8:52, Darcy

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
. Jim W. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Craig Parmerlee Sent: Fri 01-Aug-08 15:42 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied? I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread dhbailey
Craig Parmerlee wrote: I haven't figured out how to turn down the reverb with F2009. Is it a setting in the Aria player? It sounds as if my expectations were too high with the Garritan sounds. Having listened to the orchestra samples, the Finale website implied strongly that you enter the

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
dhbailey wrote: But dumping the midi file into Sonar won't help a person who is using the Garritan sounds which come with Finale -- he didn't say he had purchased the JABB set from Garritan. He has simply made use of the newly included samples from JABB which were incorporated in the

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Chuck Israels
I had no trouble using the full JABB sounds. You need to use the Kontakt Player 2 to get them loaded into the file, and that interface is nowhere near as clear and elegant as the new Aria Player that comes with Finale, but it works decently. I'm not sure of this, but the impression I

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Craig Parmerlee
A little follow-up question for Chuck or anybody else who knows the answer. If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? In other words the next time I open that score, it will have the same instruments I assigned

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 2 Aug 2008, at 8:41 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? Yes. In other words the next time I open that score, it will have the same instruments I assigned through Kontact?

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-02 Thread Chuck Israels
On Aug 2, 2008, at 5:41 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: A little follow-up question for Chuck or anybody else who knows the answer. If I purchase the full JABB package and set my instruments under Kontact, are those settings saved with my Finale score? In other words the next time I open

[Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds. One of the primary reasons I upgraded was to get the more realistic playback on big band charts. I have created a simple score from the Finale setup wizard, letting it set

RE: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Williams, Jim
. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Craig Parmerlee Sent: Fri 01-Aug-08 15:42 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied? I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used the Garritan sounds

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Craig, I use the full set of Garritan sounds (Jazz and Orchestra) and find them a little more than marginally better than the soft synth sounds. Some are quite good; the recording of my bass (#2 in the full set), baritone sax, some of the brass, and the piano and guitar are both

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Mark McCarron
my first suggestion is to turn down the reverb. I use the JABB library and it defaults to the reverb on 50% and the dry signal at 0% Mark McCarron --- Craig Parmerlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed F2009, moving from 2007. 2007 never had the jazz instruments, so I never used

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 1 Aug 2008, at 3:42 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: To my ears, it sounds pretty much like the regular synth sounds, only with a lot more reverb. The Garritan sounds are recorded dry. Reverb settings are controlled by the Ambience Reverb plugin (still not available by default on Intel

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Chuck Israels
To add one piece of information to Darcy's coherent thoughts, I misinformed you about where the reverb setting shows up. You can turn it off in the mixer window in Finale. Look on the right. Chuck On Aug 1, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 1 Aug 2008, at 3:42 PM, Craig

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I haven't figured out how to turn down the reverb with F2009. Is it a setting in the Aria player? It sounds as if my expectations were too high with the Garritan sounds. Having listened to the orchestra samples, the Finale website implied strongly that you enter the score, turn on Human

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Emulating real instruments isn't close to reality yet. You need to tweak a lot because blending to avoid giving away the fake sound is totally case by case. Finale's HP is quite well done, but current AI isn't capable of emulating. Here, JaBB sample done by Finale + tweaking in DP.

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Yes, I'm using Yamaha studio speakers. I'm using Human Playback. I just figured out how to set the Garritan reverb. That is a big improvement. My articulations had been really muddied by the reverb. Now I need to adjust my articulations and I should end up with a decent rendition. I can

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Craig Parmerlee
Well, I am still a little confused. I did find the mixer window and saw the reverb controls. There seems to be a pull-down list for room size, but it doesn't work. I wonder if that is only available with SoftSynth. I'm not sure the reverb control does anything here either. Meanwhile, I

Re: [Finale] Garritan jazz sounds: Are you satisfied?

2008-08-01 Thread Darcy James Argue
HI Craig, On 1 Aug 2008, at 10:01 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Well, I am still a little confused. I did find the mixer window and saw the reverb controls. There seems to be a pull-down list for room size, but it doesn't work. I wonder if that is only available with SoftSynth. Correct.