Re: [Finale] Missing from 2k5, ....

2004-08-22 Thread dhbailey
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: ...but will it be missed. I notice that in the revised start up dialog box, that there is no provision for opening an empty document or document without libraries. If upon further exploration I don't find where this option now resides, my workaround will be to open an

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 22

2004-08-22 Thread David Hage
On 21/8/04 2:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's one big reason why the bug should be fixed: SIBELIUS Anyone coming to Finale from that background will immediately discard Finale as a viable product because of this bug. As a regular Sibelius user (not my choice), I

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 22

2004-08-22 Thread Owain Sutton
David Hage wrote: In my humble opinion it must be that 90% of Sibelius users never used a music notation program before (all those it's fantastic, I press notes on the keyboard and they come out on the screen quotes I have heard). I would submit that if the note spacing that Sibelius produces

Re: [Finale] Putting Finale in schools [was: Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 22]

2004-08-22 Thread Owain Sutton
dhbailey wrote: Finale doesn't need extra attractiveness -- out of the box, with simple entry turned on by default (the way it installs on my machine) it works as easily as Sibelius does. MakeMusic needs their woefully inadequate publicity and marketing departments to get off their duffs and

Re: [Finale] Putting Finale in schools [was: Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 22]

2004-08-22 Thread dhbailey
Owain Sutton wrote: dhbailey wrote: Finale doesn't need extra attractiveness -- out of the box, with simple entry turned on by default (the way it installs on my machine) it works as easily as Sibelius does. MakeMusic needs their woefully inadequate publicity and marketing departments to get

Re: [Finale] Putting Finale in schools [was: Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 22]

2004-08-22 Thread Owain Sutton
dhbailey wrote: Finale doesn't need extra attractiveness -- out of the box, with simple entry turned on by default (the way it installs on my machine) it works as easily as Sibelius does. MakeMusic needs their woefully inadequate publicity and marketing departments to get off their duffs

Re: [Finale] Re: Tuplet bug in Fin2005 demo

2004-08-22 Thread Dan Carno
Hi Aaron, Yes, I see what you mean: the larger the intervals get, the more the number seems to pull away from the bracket; a black eye for Enhanced Tuplets. However, if you are doing a piece with mostly linear tuplet passages, I think things will look fairly reasonable, with less fussing than

[Finale] Problem scanning with Finale 2005 demo for Windows

2004-08-22 Thread Paul Copeland
Hello. I have tried scanning with the demo of Finale 2005 for Windows and get an error message, with Finale having to quit. The scanning worked fine with version 2004 Here are a few lines of the error message Exception InformationCode: 0xc090 Flags: 0xRecord:

Re: [Finale] Crystal's problem revisited

2004-08-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 21, 2004, at 9:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 21 Aug 2004, at 08:32 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: The problem of a repeat symbol already has two solutions involving expressions, but are these viable as addional options? 1) Create the symbol as part of the chord library, again using the

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 13, Issue 22

2004-08-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 22, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: Unfortunately, simplicity sells. And how! I know some pros here in town that use Encore, bugs and limitations and all, just so they don't have to learn a new software! And if people are weaned on Sibelius (for example at school), they're first

Re: [Finale] Putting Finale in schools

2004-08-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:34 AM 8/22/04 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 22, 2004, at 7:56 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: And if people are weaned on Sibelius (for example at school), they're first choice when they buy their own software will be Sibelius. I can't emphasize enough how right you are! Most of my

[Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!)

2004-08-22 Thread John Howell
At 12:56 PM +0100 8/22/04, Owain Sutton wrote: David Hage wrote: In my humble opinion it must be that 90% of Sibelius users never used a music notation program before Unfortunately, simplicity sells. Well of COURSE simplicity sells. Simplicity is also the hallmark of a mature technology.

Re: [Finale] Creating symbol in jazz font

2004-08-22 Thread John Howell
At 5:06 PM -0400 8/21/04, Crystal Premo wrote: I am doing some charts for a jazz singer, and she wishes me to place the symbol for play the same thing in this measure that you played in the last measure symbol (sorry I don't know its name; it looks like a divided by sign) above certain measures

Reality check (Was Re: [Finale] Re: Tuplet bug in Fin2005 demo)

2004-08-22 Thread William Roberts
David Bailey wrote: But they're just as bad at not fixing long-standing bugs that some users have been complaining about for a long time as well as introducing new bugs and saying we'll try to fix it in a future upgrade. So that rather than the two companies really goading each other into

[Finale] transpostion of percussion parts using mass edit tool

2004-08-22 Thread DeliusFan
In a piece that I am working on with the composer, we have decided to collapse four percussion parts into two. I'm preparing to do the mass edit dump of one part into layer two of another. However, before I can even do that, I need "transpose" all of one of the percussion parts onto another space

[Finale] transposition question clarification

2004-08-22 Thread DeliusFan
BTW, I'm using Finale 2003r.2. And since we need to have compatible versions, an upgrade at this time is not a viable option. Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Putting Finale in schools [was: Re: Finale Digest, Vol13, Issue 22]

2004-08-22 Thread William Roberts
David Bailey wrote: I wouldn't be surprised to find (although I can't prove this and it is purely conjecture) that Sibelius is offering better deals to school labs, and I also wouldn't be surprised to find that Sibelius is sending free copies to undecided music teachers who are in charge

Re: [Finale] Crystal's problem revisited

2004-08-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 22 Aug 2004, at 10:26 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Have you tried Type Into Score, simply typing :75 WITHOUT typing a root (where 75 is the slot number of the suffix?) I use this for NC, among other things. Oh, cool. I didn't know you could do that. Has that always been the case? IIRC,

Re: [Finale] Putting Finale in schools

2004-08-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 22 Aug 2004, at 08:28 AM, dhbailey wrote: I wouldn't be surprised to find (although I can't prove this and it is purely conjecture) that Sibelius is offering better deals to school labs, and I also wouldn't be surprised to find that Sibelius is sending free copies to undecided music teachers

Re: [Finale] font problem!

2004-08-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Andrew, Be careful with FontBook -- before you do anything, check out the Preferences and make sure you check Always copy font files when installing. One thing you definitely *don't* want is for your fonts to be moved from you Classic System Folder. To install a PostScript, Font using

Re: [Finale] Crystal's problem revisited

2004-08-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 22, 2004, at 2:59 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 22 Aug 2004, at 10:26 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Have you tried Type Into Score, simply typing :75 WITHOUT typing a root (where 75 is the slot number of the suffix?) I use this for NC, among other things. Oh, cool. I didn't know you

Re: [Finale] transpostion of percussion parts using mass edit tool

2004-08-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 22, 2004, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a piece that I am working on with the composer, we have decided to collapse four percussion parts into two.  I'm preparing to do the mass edit dump of one part into layer two of another.  However, before I can even do that, I need

Re: [Finale] transpostion of percussion parts using mass edit tool

2004-08-22 Thread Owain Sutton
Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 22, 2004, at 2:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a piece that I am working on with the composer, we have decided to collapse four percussion parts into two. I'm preparing to do the mass edit dump of one part into layer two of another. However,

Re: Reality check (Was Re: [Finale] Re: Tuplet bug in Fin2005 demo)

2004-08-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:16 PM 8/22/04 -0500, William Roberts wrote: Quick reality check how many software companies have you dealt with who will actually directly acknowledge a bug to you, and tell you that they'll try to fix it in a future upgrade? Top of my head... Cakewalk (when they hosted a news server;

Re: [Finale] Crystal's problem revisited

2004-08-22 Thread Crystal Premo
I know Crystal didn't ask, but I would question the need to put a repeat sign for a chord symbol only. It is standard to the idiom that a chord symbol continues exerting its influence until it is changed or cancelled by an NC (no chord), unless the system changes, in which case you put in the

Re: [Finale] Crystal's problem revisited

2004-08-22 Thread Crystal Premo
Here's another weird convention that I just learned about, apparently directly descended from the original Real Book practices. You know that it is common for libraries to omit the first article in a title for cataloguing purposes, like A Foggy Day is listed under F, not A. But in many jazz

[Finale] Fin2005: 'Before Music' at Staff Systems

2004-08-22 Thread Jari Williamsson
Hello! I've created a plug-in to access the 'hidden' Fin2005 feature where you can set the extra 'Before Music' option individually for each staff system (the initial release of Fin2005 supports this, but doesn't have a user interface for it). The plug-in can work selectively on just some

Re: [Finale] .eps in Word

2004-08-22 Thread Rocky Road
On the Mac side, The quality of the EPS preview was downgraded significantly in Finale 2004. I use Finale EPS's in Word and up till then had found them very readable on screen. In 2004 they are awful. It's not a question of awful quality, it's like Maestro/Petrucci aren't installed -- ae's

Re: [Finale] Fin2005: 'Before Music' at Staff Systems

2004-08-22 Thread Éric Dussault
Thanks Jari for your quick reaction and for creating this plug-in. Do you have any plan to issue a Mac compatible version of the plug-in ? And I am not sure I understand the difference between what you plug-in does and the new measure-tool extra space at beginning of a measure/staff system

Re: [Finale] Crystal's problem revisited

2004-08-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Christopher Smith wrote: Here's another weird convention that I just learned about, apparently directly descended from the original Real Book practices. You know that it is common for libraries to omit the first article in a title for cataloguing purposes, like A Foggy Day is listed under F,