Re: [Finale] OT: question re Canadian copyright
On Jun 25, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Lora Crighton wrote: I'm helping out with the music at my church while we are between music directors, and the priest has suggested using a hymn that is not in the book we currently use. This means that we would need to print at least the words - the music as well would be nice - for the congregation. Would we need to get anyone's permission for this, and how would we go about it if we do? I tried googling, but gave up after I kept finding US sites, because I know their rules are different. An idle glance through the Canadian Copyright Act http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-42/index.html (check under Exceptions) shows fair dealing exceptions including private study, library/ archive copies and for review, but no mention of churches. This is not the same thing as US fair use as Canadian fair dealing appears to be slightly more restrictive. There is also a mention of non-profit, but I don't know if churches fall under that for the purposes of copyright, otherwise how would hymnal publishers stay in business? I am not a lawyer, so anything I say cannot be taken as a legal opinion (engineers and doctors get the same monopoly!) but a call to the publisher would certainly clear up any uncertainty. It is quite possible that they will ask how many copies, what book, what for, and then say, ahh, we can't really GIVE you permission, but if that's as far as it goes, just go ahead and we won't pursue you. (I have had that response before. I have also had, no way, under no circumstances whatsoever, we don't care that it is permanently out of print so we won't be making money on it ever again, we don't care if you offer to send us a cheque, we simply do not permit photocopying of our materials under any circumstances.) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: question re Canadian copyright
On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Lora Crighton wrote: Would we need to get anyone's permission for this, and how would we go about it if we do? Here is a Canadian specific site: http://www.united-church.ca/local/copyright Years ago, my church here in the US researched ways to comply, but we didn't solve it. We found that the church focused services that granted use in celebrations, didn't include all of the music that we drew from and concluded that we'd have to pay several of them to cover 80 or 90 percent of what we wanted. It was more expensive that we could consider and we'd looked around a good bit so we just stopped looking for a solution. Let us know what your church decides to do. I'd be interested. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Inserting a clef in mid measure
Hi All, I just upgraded to Finale Win 08 and am discovering many things do not work as they used to. One I came across today is inserting a clef in mid measure. Why they removed that form the Clef Change window is difficult to understand. I read the manual to figure how to do it and that does not work. It says that after you change the clef at the beginning of the measure there will be a handle on the clef which you can them drag to the position in the measure you want. Well, when I do it, there is no handle. What is up? How DO you insert a mid measure clef? This used to be so easy! Thanks to anyone that can help. Lee Dengler Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church Assistant Professor of Music, Goshen College Composer Engraver, Editor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: question re Canadian copyright
At 9:30 AM -0400 6/26/08, Christopher Smith wrote: There is also a mention of non-profit, but I don't know if churches fall under that for the purposes of copyright, otherwise how would hymnal publishers stay in business? I'm not a lawyer either, but it seems to me that churches can be (and probably should be) registered as non-profits, although that is a legal status under both state laws and IRS rulings. (And I have to admit that it's hard to see some of the billion-dollar mega-churches as non-profits!!) But publishers of hymnals are not churches, and can be for-profit businesses. No conflict that I can see. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef in mid measure
Select the passage you want to change with the clef tool (remember that partial measure selection is now always on), then invoke the appropriate clef metatool (1 = treble, 2 = alto, 3 = tenor, 4 = bass, D = percussion, etc). - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 26 Jun 2008, at 8:33 PM, Lee Dengler wrote: Hi All, I just upgraded to Finale Win 08 and am discovering many things do not work as they used to. One I came across today is inserting a clef in mid measure. Why they removed that form the Clef Change window is difficult to understand. I read the manual to figure how to do it and that does not work. It says that after you change the clef at the beginning of the measure there will be a handle on the clef which you can them drag to the position in the measure you want. Well, when I do it, there is no handle. What is up? How DO you insert a mid measure clef? This used to be so easy! Thanks to anyone that can help. Lee Dengler Minister of Music, College Mennonite Church Assistant Professor of Music, Goshen College Composer Engraver, Editor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
