[Finale] Invisible Invisible Layers in Fin 2014
In Fin 2011 I could see, while entering notes via speedy entry tool, other notes already set in a different layer and grayed out when Hyde Layer when Inactive was deselected. This for me was a very useful feature, as having to enter an invisible notation that would have to playback differently from the visible one. In Finale 2014 it seems that hidden layers are no longer visible in this way. Probably got to set something differently? Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Invisible Invisible Layers in Fin 2014
If you want to see the hidden notes/rests, under the View menu, click on Show and then select Hidden Notes and Rests. I hope that does what you're looking for. David H. Bailey On 11/6/2013 4:39 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: In Fin 2011 I could see, while entering notes via speedy entry tool, other notes already set in a different layer and grayed out when Hyde Layer when Inactive was deselected. This for me was a very useful feature, as having to enter an invisible notation that would have to playback differently from the visible one. In Finale 2014 it seems that hidden layers are no longer visible in this way. Probably got to set something differently? Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re(2): Invisible Invisible Layers in Fin 2014
Thank you David, unfortunately it's not working: I selected Show - Hidden Notes and Rests as you suggested, then tried to fiddle with the options in the layers document options panel but just can't see those hidden layers in speedy entry. Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu If you want to see the hidden notes/rests, under the View menu, click on Show and then select Hidden Notes and Rests. I hope that does what you're looking for. David H. Bailey On 11/6/2013 4:39 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: In Fin 2011 I could see, while entering notes via speedy entry tool, other notes already set in a different layer and grayed out when Hyde Layer when Inactive was deselected. This for me was a very useful feature, as having to enter an invisible notation that would have to playback differently from the visible one. In Finale 2014 it seems that hidden layers are no longer visible in this way. Probably got to set something differently? Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a book worth considering!
Remember when Finale came with real, printed manuals? Don't you wish it still did? I just wanted to point out that people who are upgrading to Finale 2014 or purchasing Finale for the first time might want to purchase Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide to assist with the upgrade. Mark has been publishing these books for the past few upgrades and I have found them immensely helpful in navigating around the pitfalls of each new upgrade. Notable potential pitfalls are the ScoreManager (still -- many people haven't gotten used to how this works compared to the older Instrument List dialog) and the newly redesigned percussion dialog. These books are great for new users as well as long-time users who may have gotten entrenched in older workflows which have changed with these newer versions. It's especially helpful for people who haven't upgraded for a long time. You can order it from MakeMusic when you order your upgrade (or separately) or you can order it from amazon. [Disclaimer: Mark is a friend and he's using a quote from me on the cover, but other than that I have no business association with the sale of this book and don't make any money from the sale of the book, so this really is a friendly suggestion and not a ploy for me to earn money.] -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] FM2014: Missing keyboard shortcuts in text handling
I very often revise staff and group names between various instrumental versions of hymn scores. Working on a new edition today I realized that the keyboard shortcuts for accidentals are no longer there. Going to the Text menu every time is not so nice. Neither can I control italics from the keyboard. And then there is an oddity in working with the editing windows. When the text has been finished, I cannot exit the window by means of any of the enter keys. And the mouse cursor remains an insertion cursor also above the OK button, until I have clicked something outside the Finale window. Not being a code person I don't see any reasons to remove said work facilitators. I recycle a lot of text elements from older editions. Opening an older file in FM2012 in one monitor and copying these elements to the new file opened in FM2012 on another monitor works perfectly so far. Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering!
Hey David, With your suggestion, I sat down with Mark's opus (Finale 2012 A Trailblazer Guide) in hand to learn how to use the Score Manager. There is no item in the table of contents about the SM so I looked in the index. There are 3 citations there, but they only talk about the SM to solve some very specific tasks. I wish there was a comprehensive chapter on the Score Manager. It is such a new concept for Finale that it deserves a more thorough treatment. Finale remains very much a teach yourself program! Chordially, John A Finale user since 1998 - Original Message - From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering! Remember when Finale came with real, printed manuals? Don't you wish it still did? I just wanted to point out that people who are upgrading to Finale 2014 or purchasing Finale for the first time might want to purchase Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide to assist with the upgrade. Mark has been publishing these books for the past few upgrades and I have found them immensely helpful in navigating around the pitfalls of each new upgrade. Notable potential pitfalls are the ScoreManager (still -- many people haven't gotten used to how this works compared to the older Instrument List dialog) and the newly redesigned percussion dialog. These books are great for new users as well as long-time users who may have gotten entrenched in older workflows which have changed with these newer versions. It's especially helpful for people who haven't upgraded for a long time. You can order it from MakeMusic when you order your upgrade (or separately) or you can order it from amazon. [Disclaimer: Mark is a friend and he's using a quote from me on the cover, but other than that I have no business association with the sale of this book and don't make any money from the sale of the book, so this really is a friendly suggestion and not a ploy for me to earn money.] -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re(2): Invisible Invisible Layers in Fin 2014
I today experienced the same work situation with two layers in a keyboard part. And FM2014 let me see the notes in the other layer. Klaus Sendt fra min iPad Den 06/11/2013 kl. 11.24 skrev Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu: Thank you David, unfortunately it's not working: I selected Show - Hidden Notes and Rests as you suggested, then tried to fiddle with the options in the layers document options panel but just can't see those hidden layers in speedy entry. Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu If you want to see the hidden notes/rests, under the View menu, click on Show and then select Hidden Notes and Rests. I hope that does what you're looking for. David H. Bailey On 11/6/2013 4:39 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: In Fin 2011 I could see, while entering notes via speedy entry tool, other notes already set in a different layer and grayed out when Hyde Layer when Inactive was deselected. This for me was a very useful feature, as having to enter an invisible notation that would have to playback differently from the visible one. In Finale 2014 it seems that hidden layers are no longer visible in this way. Probably got to set something differently? Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.eu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering!
One of the reasons I went back to 2011 is because I couldn't get my head around the score manager...so I need a chapter that I can read and digest as if I was learning the program from scratch. Mike G. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM, John Witmer wit...@nctv.com wrote: Hey David, With your suggestion, I sat down with Mark's opus (Finale 2012 A Trailblazer Guide) in hand to learn how to use the Score Manager. There is no item in the table of contents about the SM so I looked in the index. There are 3 citations there, but they only talk about the SM to solve some very specific tasks. I wish there was a comprehensive chapter on the Score Manager. It is such a new concept for Finale that it deserves a more thorough treatment. Finale remains very much a teach yourself program! Chordially, John A Finale user since 1998 - Original Message - From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering! Remember when Finale came with real, printed manuals? Don't you wish it still did? I just wanted to point out that people who are upgrading to Finale 2014 or purchasing Finale for the first time might want to purchase Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide to assist with the upgrade. Mark has been publishing these books for the past few upgrades and I have found them immensely helpful in navigating around the pitfalls of each new upgrade. Notable potential pitfalls are the ScoreManager (still -- many people haven't gotten used to how this works compared to the older Instrument List dialog) and the newly redesigned percussion dialog. These books are great for new users as well as long-time users who may have gotten entrenched in older workflows which have changed with these newer versions. It's especially helpful for people who haven't upgraded for a long time. You can order it from MakeMusic when you order your upgrade (or separately) or you can order it from amazon. [Disclaimer: Mark is a friend and he's using a quote from me on the cover, but other than that I have no business association with the sale of this book and don't make any money from the sale of the book, so this really is a friendly suggestion and not a ploy for me to earn money.] -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering!
I purchased the Berklee Press 3rd edition of their book Finale, an easy guide to music notation, and went through each chapter from the beginning of the book to the end and found many sections illustrating the many ways of using the score manager in real situations. I use this manual as a reference work for the many parts of Finale. Take a look at it in a book store and see if it might help. I learned a lot and am grateful for them making it available to the rest of us. I began with Finale 3.2 and found this to be the next best book beside the regular manuals. I also find the online help to be very useful. Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com` http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 11:40 AM, Mike Greensill m...@mikegreensill.com wrote: One of the reasons I went back to 2011 is because I couldn't get my head around the score manager...so I need a chapter that I can read and digest as if I was learning the program from scratch. Mike G. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM, John Witmer wit...@nctv.com wrote: Hey David, With your suggestion, I sat down with Mark's opus (Finale 2012 A Trailblazer Guide) in hand to learn how to use the Score Manager. There is no item in the table of contents about the SM so I looked in the index. There are 3 citations there, but they only talk about the SM to solve some very specific tasks. I wish there was a comprehensive chapter on the Score Manager. It is such a new concept for Finale that it deserves a more thorough treatment. Finale remains very much a teach yourself program! Chordially, John A Finale user since 1998 - Original Message - From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering! Remember when Finale came with real, printed manuals? Don't you wish it still did? I just wanted to point out that people who are upgrading to Finale 2014 or purchasing Finale for the first time might want to purchase Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide to assist with the upgrade. Mark has been publishing these books for the past few upgrades and I have found them immensely helpful in navigating around the pitfalls of each new upgrade. Notable potential pitfalls are the ScoreManager (still -- many people haven't gotten used to how this works compared to the older Instrument List dialog) and the newly redesigned percussion dialog. These books are great for new users as well as long-time users who may have gotten entrenched in older workflows which have changed with these newer versions. It's especially helpful for people who haven't upgraded for a long time. You can order it from MakeMusic when you order your upgrade (or separately) or you can order it from amazon. [Disclaimer: Mark is a friend and he's using a quote from me on the cover, but other than that I have no business association with the sale of this book and don't make any money from the sale of the book, so this really is a friendly suggestion and not a ploy for me to earn money.] -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] FM2012: Problem with the Expression Tool
Hi everyone. I have a problem with Finale 2012: in the Expression Tool, I know that the fourth triangle on the left of a staff should adjust the placement of the next symbol that I will insert. Unfortunately, when I move this triangle and then insert a new symbol, it will appear in the default position (the same specified in the Category Designer dialog box). Apparently, then, the fourth triangle has no effect, while it perfectly works in the Lyrics Tool and in the Chord Tool. Maybe I forgot some particular setting? Thank you in advance Giorgio ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Satan's Instrument
A hilarious add for a piccolo on Craigslist. http://kpr.craigslist.org/msg/4174429971.html They call the trumpet God's Instrument. The instrument that takes a month to learn and a lifetime to master. Forget that. I'm giving you the chance to own Satan's Instrument. The instrument that takes a second to hate and a lifetime to get used to. If your goal is world domination, getting the ball rolling on the apocalypse, or simply disarming someone who's a little too rapey, this miniature flute of terror will hold the game down. And how. Brought to you by Lucifer himself, this 4SP Silver Plated Gemienhardt Piccolo will serve his evil minion well. From it's compact arthritis-inducing body this pipe will unleash a sound that can bring entire crowds of people to their knees in pain and surrender. If you're thinking of starting a bloody coup, leave the AK-47s and sarin gas at home son, this picc is all you need. This instrument has the ability to sing an A five lines above the staff so crisp and clear that if you're not careful may actually cleave your conductor's brain clean in half. It's highest note is one only dogs can hear, that composers have dubbed X. Apart from the oboe, this is the only instrument able to kick a field goal of pain right between the goal posts of your unfortunate target's neurons, resulting in synaptic misfires, blown mental fuses, and a complete breakdown of all left brain activity, leaving the right brain to writhe in pain and confusion whilst scrambling all bodily motor functions. Any soul unlucky enough to wind up on the business end of Beezulbub's piccolo will instantly be reduced to the fetal position and revoked of their right to free will. Aside from violating several Geneva Convention protocols, this wailing weaponry can produce frequencies that wreak havoc upon others by causing: - sudden unexpected nosebleeds - aphasia - heart palpitations - aneurisms - loss of sanity - unexplainable rage - spontaneous combustion - abandonment of the will to live - anal leakage It's a common mistake to think that the piccolo also has side effects on it's user. Many claim it causes acute narcissism, but in reality the only people drawn to this instrument are already delusionally narcissistic, have serial killer tendencies, and show traits as promising future dictators. Because of this instrument, I now rule over my own sovereign island, where I preach from balconies and lounge in my throne poppin' bottles while getting fanned with palm fronds waved by ridiculously hot cabana boys. Tomorrow's forecast: Whatever the hell I want. Since I'm livin' the dream, I'm retiring from my reign of terror and passing on the torch. Being evil is an arduous, exhaustive effort, and this musical scepter cannot be played by your average whitebread vanilla villain. Only the most cunning, dextrous, morally ambiguous, and questionably sane may apply. Who among you is worthy? $300 obo. Willing to throw in a box of gravel and ship. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
