Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Unless, perhaps, one is trying to keep, say, a symphony orchestra in business. It may be that a line has to be walked between educating one's audience and providing enough literature within their comfort zone to keep them coming to concerts. It does no one any good

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I had a conversation with my brother, Marc Bauman, who is a producer for Live From Lincoln Center. He says that there is great difficulty filling the seats at all the LC venues, and many events are less than half full. Either few can afford the

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I wasn't the only one who had problems with that statement. I have a problem with any statement that does nothing with Finale .. Oh I guess I became one of them now ... -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jan 2006 at 7:17, dhbailey wrote: There are many more composers over the past century than just Schoenberg. And audiences respond very favorably to many of them, if they're just given a chance to hear the music. While what you say is certainly true, there's an unintended knock at

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jan 2006 at 7:29, dhbailey wrote: if the production values of Las Vegas or Broadway are what attracts audiences and sponsorship, then perhaps it is time to lose the tuxedo/black-tie nature of classical music, and get orchestras to look as if they are actually members of this century,

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Owain Sutton
dhbailey wrote: Nigel Kennedy may get glares from the blue-haired set when he steps out in sequins and with colored, spiked hair, but the interest that he sparks among the younger folks is amazing to see. He shows them that classical music (both from the Classical era and also from our

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Jan 2006 at 8:23, dc wrote: How many verses can one put under a vocal line without confusing the singer? I'm doing an Italian piece with no less than 10 verses. How many should I keep under the music? And then, what do I do with the others? Add the text only after the music? Repeat the

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 1/27/06, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many verses can one put under a vocal line without confusing the singer? I'm doing an Italian piece with no less than 10 verses. How many should I keep under the music? And then, what do I do with the others? Add the text only after the music? Repeat

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Andrew Stiller
New Yorker music critic Alex Ross says much the same thing as David Bailey: Mozart did not come from nowhere. He was the product of a society that was avid for music on every level, that believed in the possibility of an all-encompassing musical genius. This is Romantic codswallop. The huge

[Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]

2006-01-28 Thread Ken Moore
Chuck Israels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of weeks ago, I had a conversation with my brother, Marc Bauman, who is a producer for Live From Lincoln Center. He says that there is great difficulty filling the seats at all the LC venues, and many events are less than half full. Either

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jan 27, 2006, at 3:40 PM, dhbailey wrote: How about composers who had been dead 50 years? Did they receive retrospective concerts? I don't think so. Handel, at the very least. Mozart didn't expect to have to wait for 200 years before his music would be heard, and I think he would

[Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Crystal Premo
Somebody called and asked me to transpose this tune into A for her by Tuesday, and I can't. Somebody want to help? I'm pretty sure she didn't say Stairway to Heaven. Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Fenton...the throwback

2006-01-28 Thread Simon Troup
Perhaps I'm a throwback to an older era when people spoke more plainly and forcefully, and did not hedge their opinions in an attempt to disguise significant disagreement and, I guess, avoid conflict. David David, you're completely deluded. While their is merit in many of your posts, the

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jan 27, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: I can't wait until May 2013 when the premiers of The Rite of Summer, The Rite of Fall, and The Rite of Winter will occur on the first half of a concert to celebrate the 100th anniversary of a certain piece! One of the few pleasures of growing

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
On Jan 28, 2006, at 4:17 AM, dhbailey wrote: Well, many symphonies are teetering on the brink of extinction and they're still programming music by long-dead composers, so one would think that rather than try to more of the same only with more energy (which is proving to be their undoing)

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Christopher Smith
That must be Gershwin's I'll build a stairway to paradise. Sorry I can't help. Christopher On Jan 28, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Crystal Premo wrote: Somebody called and asked me to transpose this tune into A for her by Tuesday, and I can't. Somebody want to help? I'm pretty sure she didn't say

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Are you asking if this tune actually existed, or saying that you can't find it anywhere, or what? I definitely remember the song from the late 50's. Dean On Jan 28, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Crystal Premo wrote: Somebody called and asked me to transpose this tune into A for her by

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread Andrew Stiller
On 28 Jan 2006 at 8:23, dc wrote: How many verses can one put under a vocal line without confusing the singer? I'm doing an Italian piece with no less than 10 verses. How many should I keep under the music? And then, what do I do with the others? Add the text only after the music? Repeat the

[Finale] Re: A questions about file updates

2006-01-28 Thread David Froom
Brad Beyenhof wrote: That Finalescript should read: batch process folder //process subdirectories music font fontname lock systems note spacing save and append _2k6 close Next, just place all of the desired files in a folder (if some of the files are in subfolders of that folder,

Re: [Finale] Re: A questions about file updates

2006-01-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Isn't Petrucci installed by default anymore? I thought it was. Anyway, I still have Petrucci on my system (OS X 10.4.4) and it works fine. If for some reason it's no longer installed with the other Finale fonts, than yes, you can just throw Petru and Petrucci.suit into Library/Fonts (N.B.

Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th Birthday Mozart]

2006-01-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Ken Moore, when he wrote: The general pessimism about the state of contemporary music being expressed in this thread seems to me to represent a US view rather than a world-wide one. Music in Europe has its difficulties, but some regular series, such as the BBC Proms and the Cheltenham

Re: [Finale] Re: A questions about file updates

2006-01-28 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 1/27/06, David Froom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to get to the Finalescript box, don't you have to have a Finale file open already, and get to it through the Plugins/misc menu? Nope, the Finalescript Pallette is able to be opened even when no documents are open. One last question: since

Re: [Finale] Guitar Harmonics

2006-01-28 Thread Don Hart
Hi Keith, Unfortunately I'm not writing to help you out with your question. That's not an area of Finale I really ever use. I'm writing to point out your appeal for help once more. It may be that your need can't be handled in Finale (which would be somewhat of a rarity) or that someone got

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Michael Cook
Gershwin's I'll build a stairway to paradise was written for George White's Scandals of 1922. If it's any help, I'm sure you'll find a few MIDI files of it if you search for them on the Internet. Michael Cook On 28 Jan 2006, at 20:17, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Are you asking if this tune

Re: [Finale] Guitar Harmonics

2006-01-28 Thread Owain Sutton
I too know not enough about guitar notation to give a definite answer. However, if what you're trying to do is change individual noteheads to diamond shapes, use the Note Shape Tool in the Special Tools palette: double-click individual notes, or dragging to select multiple ones, after

RE: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread keith helgesen
Precisely! I have no argument with you airing your viewpoint, some aspects of which I totally agree with. I am merely stating that your rhetoric and/or style of writing is oft-times offensive. Read my posts on this thread. Not once have I said your opinions are wrong- or unwelcome. Maybe I'm a

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Darcy James Argue
Keith, unlike some of David's other remarks, this one was not directed at any individual on this list -- that is, unless anyone here self-identifies as someone who resists anything but the familiar. And since basically the entire classical music establishment (and increasingly, the jazz

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread Dick Hauser
On Jan 28, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Simon Troup wrote: dc wrote: How many verses can one put under a vocal line without confusing the singer? -- Simon Troup said: .3 lines of lyrics before the rest were dumped out to Block Lyrics. That seems to work well for

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread dhbailey
Owain Sutton wrote: dhbailey wrote: Nigel Kennedy may get glares from the blue-haired set when he steps out in sequins and with colored, spiked hair, but the interest that he sparks among the younger folks is amazing to see. He shows them that classical music (both from the Classical

Re: [Finale] OT Contemporary music and anti-intellectualism [was: Happy 250th...

2006-01-28 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 28/01/2006 18:35:59 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: contemporary music" AND France. Certainly French radio seems to give more air time to contemporary music than does British radio and I have enjoyed some memorable "first hearings" during my times in France.

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 28/01/2006 18:56:38 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the few pleasures of growing old is that you get to watch history at work. Yes, Yes, Yes! How I wish I could convince some of my friends of the truth of this! They told me that getting older

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Erica Buxbaum
What is Nigel Kennedy up to nowadays? (Other than turning fifty this year, that is...)I heard him play a wonderful concert of baroque concertos at the Gewandhaus in Leipzig last spring during the Bach Festival. Fabulous performances, though I do think in some places he has pressed his fast

RE: [Finale] Guitar Harmonics

2006-01-28 Thread Keith Smith
Thanks Don and Owain, Actually John Knowles got back to me fairly quickly, with some ideas. I'm curious as to why his post didn't show up, as the the first one from him clearly had the list in the 'to' box. All my examples are short (4 measures), so I do enjoy a certain flexibilty in how I show

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread John Bell
On 28 Jan 2006, at 22:40, John Howell wrote:Personal opinion:  Any song with 10 verses shows lack of craft on the part of the poet, quite typical of amateurs, and needs to be either shortened or "arranged" so that you aren't repeating the same music over and over and over and over and ... There

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
My experience is that singers get confused even if there's only one verse. Better to put the solo part on a saxophone instead. Cheers, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.ukDulcian Wind Quintet: http://dulcianwind.co.uk

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread John Howell
At 1:02 PM -0500 1/28/06, Crystal Premo wrote: Somebody called and asked me to transpose this tune into A for her by Tuesday, and I can't. Somebody want to help? I'm pretty sure she didn't say Stairway to Heaven. Transposing is your job; providing you the sheet music is hers. I understand

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You might want to check musicnotes.com http://www.musicnotes.com/ They have a song, called I'll Build A Stairway to Paradise by Gershwin. You can print it out, and even put it in different keys. All for a couple of bucks. John Howell wrote: At 1:02 PM -0500 1/28/06, Crystal Premo wrote:

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread John Howell
Title: Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart At 1:29 PM -0500 1/28/06, Andrew Stiller wrote: New Yorkermusic critic Alex Ross says much the same thing as David Bailey: Mozart did not come from nowhere. He was the product of a society that was avid for music on every level, that believed in

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread John Howell
At 11:25 PM + 1/28/06, Owain Sutton wrote: John Howell wrote: (Academic: A composer who earns a living teaching because s/he cannot write music that earns a living, but argues that any music that sells is a sellout.) A thoroughly unfair stereotype. Most composers I know who are in

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread John Howell
At 6:42 PM -0500 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is that singers get confused even if there's only one verse. Better to put the solo part on a saxophone instead. Now that's not fair!! They only get confused if that verse is in a language. John -- John Susie Howell

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Richard Yates
I understand that one can now purchase CDs with hundreds or thousands of songs as PDFs, but I don't know where. Look at: http://www.cdsheetmusic.com/ It is a fantastic resouce. For example, the complete Bach Gesselschaft (18,000 pages) for $80. Richard Yates

Re: [Finale] verses

2006-01-28 Thread Carl Dershem
John Howell wrote: At 6:42 PM -0500 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is that singers get confused even if there's only one verse. Better to put the solo part on a saxophone instead. Now that's not fair!! They only get confused if that verse is in a language. And sax

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread John Howell
At 5:10 PM -0800 1/28/06, Richard Yates wrote: I understand that one can now purchase CDs with hundreds or thousands of songs as PDFs, but I don't know where. Look at: http://www.cdsheetmusic.com/ It is a fantastic resouce. For example, the complete Bach Gesselschaft (18,000 pages) for

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Dick Hauser
On Jan 28, 2006, at 5:28 PM, John Howell wrote: Glad to have that site. I was thinking more of pop songs like the Gershwin under discussion, but classical repertoire could be useful as well. I do see one problem: piano-vocal scores, but no parts available. And of course no full

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Crystal Premo
What the person is looking is someone to take the piano/vocal of Stairway To Paradise, which we both have, and transpose the piano/vocal into the key of A by Tuesday, January 31st. I can't do it for her, and so I am posting it on this list to see, as I have in the past, if there is anyone with

Re: [Finale] Stairway To Paradise in A

2006-01-28 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Like I posted before, Musicnotes.com. They have it, and you can have it printed in whatever key. For like $4. Crystal Premo wrote: What the person is looking is someone to take the piano/vocal of Stairway To Paradise, which we both have, and transpose the piano/vocal into the key of A by

Re: [Finale] Happy 250th Birthday Mozart

2006-01-28 Thread Bunnydowns
In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:29:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That might help audiences of today feel more relaxed about orchestral music the way that audiences of 200 years ago felt. Not a stodgy presentation to be listened to in rapt silence, but rather an event to