[Finale] Violin fingerings
Hi all, Do you know the exact placement of single note fingerings: always placed above the notes or depending stems direction (like articulations)? In case of up stems tuplet, is it allowed to place fingerings : - below the notes; - above the notes with tuplet number and bracket below? Thanks! Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Violin fingerings
Almost always above, regardless of stem direction, and above tuplet numbers and brackets. The only case I can think of where a fingering would go below is in a divisi orchestral part with 2 voices on one staff, stems up and stems down. But as both a violinist with a lot of experience, and as a composer who has written a lot of string music (including a violin concerto), I would urge you to resist adding fingerings under any but very exceptional circumstances, such as a technical etude, or a tricky special fingering as written by an expert string player. Otherwise a fingering is less likely to help than to be an annoyance. And guaranteed to be ignored even more than bowings. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com Hi all, Do you know the exact placement of single note fingerings: always placed above the notes or depending stems direction (like articulations)? In case of up stems tuplet, is it allowed to place fingerings : - below the notes; - above the notes with tuplet number and bracket below? Thanks! Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Violin fingerings
On 2011-02-25 08:58, Pierre Bailleul wrote: Do you know the exact placement of single note fingerings: always placed above the notes or depending stems direction (like articulations)? In case of up stems tuplet, is it allowed to place fingerings : - below the notes; - above the notes with tuplet number and bracket below? Personally, I would like them as: 1. If there are many fingerings, always above 2. If there is just one fingering, put it at the best white space place, which would often mean on the notehea side Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Violin fingerings
Thanks for your response. Going further : - Quarter note up stem with tremolo and number 3 above (eight note tuplet): fingering above? - Never along side the noteheads (inside staff) even when double note or triple note? Pierre -Message d'origine- From: Lee Actor Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Violin fingerings Almost always above, regardless of stem direction, and above tuplet numbers and brackets. The only case I can think of where a fingering would go below is in a divisi orchestral part with 2 voices on one staff, stems up and stems down. But as both a violinist with a lot of experience, and as a composer who has written a lot of string music (including a violin concerto), I would urge you to resist adding fingerings under any but very exceptional circumstances, such as a technical etude, or a tricky special fingering as written by an expert string player. Otherwise a fingering is less likely to help than to be an annoyance. And guaranteed to be ignored even more than bowings. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com Hi all, Do you know the exact placement of single note fingerings: always placed above the notes or depending stems direction (like articulations)? In case of up stems tuplet, is it allowed to place fingerings : - below the notes; - above the notes with tuplet number and bracket below? Thanks! Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Violin fingerings
In that case it will be confusing no matter where you put it. I would try to find a different way of indicating the triplet that didn't require a number, such as 3 horizontal dots above the note, or writing it out as a triplet without the stem slash (I assume this is what you mean by tremolo). -Lee Thanks for your response. Going further : - Quarter note up stem with tremolo and number 3 above (eight note tuplet): fingering above? - Never along side the noteheads (inside staff) even when double note or triple note? Pierre -Message d'origine- From: Lee Actor Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Violin fingerings Almost always above, regardless of stem direction, and above tuplet numbers and brackets. The only case I can think of where a fingering would go below is in a divisi orchestral part with 2 voices on one staff, stems up and stems down. But as both a violinist with a lot of experience, and as a composer who has written a lot of string music (including a violin concerto), I would urge you to resist adding fingerings under any but very exceptional circumstances, such as a technical etude, or a tricky special fingering as written by an expert string player. Otherwise a fingering is less likely to help than to be an annoyance. And guaranteed to be ignored even more than bowings. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com Hi all, Do you know the exact placement of single note fingerings: always placed above the notes or depending stems direction (like articulations)? In case of up stems tuplet, is it allowed to place fingerings : - below the notes; - above the notes with tuplet number and bracket below? Thanks! Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Violin fingerings
I've only seen fingerings above, and if you want them placed over a chord like that, you write the fingering for each note in the proper location: 2 1 3 (or whatever you wish) and the string players will either honor it or ignore it but at least they'll know that you want the top note fingered with the 2nd finger, the middle note fingered with the 1st finger and the lowest note fingered with the 3rd finger. David H. Bailey On 2/25/2011 4:46 AM, Pierre Bailleul wrote: Thanks for your response. Going further : - Quarter note up stem with tremolo and number 3 above (eight note tuplet): fingering above? - Never along side the noteheads (inside staff) even when double note or triple note? Pierre -Message d'origine- From: Lee Actor Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 10:08 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Violin fingerings Almost always above, regardless of stem direction, and above tuplet numbers and brackets. The only case I can think of where a fingering would go below is in a divisi orchestral part with 2 voices on one staff, stems up and stems down. But as both a violinist with a lot of experience, and as a composer who has written a lot of string music (including a violin concerto), I would urge you to resist adding fingerings under any but very exceptional circumstances, such as a technical etude, or a tricky special fingering as written by an expert string player. Otherwise a fingering is less likely to help than to be an annoyance. And guaranteed to be ignored even more than bowings. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com Hi all, Do you know the exact placement of single note fingerings: always placed above the notes or depending stems direction (like articulations)? In case of up stems tuplet, is it allowed to place fingerings : - below the notes; - above the notes with tuplet number and bracket below? Thanks! Pierre ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Follow-up to GPO's sloppy solo string sounds
Ambience Reverb is quite good, it's just that Finale's default settings are all messed up -- they are set to 100% wet, 0% dry. They should default to something closer to 100% dry, 20-30% wet. This setting is saved with the document in Fin2011 (though you do have to set it once in every new file). Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 24 Feb 2011, at 10:29 AM, Adam Taylor wrote: Well, it seems that I've stumbled across something that makes GPO's solo strings playback a lot clearer at high tempos. Upon exploring the documentation (which for this particular tweak is more-or-less non-existant) and playing with it by myself, I have found that there is a controller that affects the length of the samples, Controller #21, ironically named Length. The default value of this controller is 64. By setting the value very low (Now I'm setting it to zero) by means of an expression attached to the first note of the score, the playback of these notes is MUCH clearer, and I am currently working on a piece with eighth notes at dotted-half=100-120 and they are crisp and clean. Also, the playback is helped by having the AWFUL ambience reverb turned off. Is there anyway to make this the default setting instead of having to fiddle it in EVERY new file? Adam ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
