Re: [Finale] default rest question
I would use a double whole as per original. I would split off the last movement to a new doc and change the default. Steve P. On 16 May 2014, at 19:55, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com wrote: Ryan, I checked the Dolmetsch book, and if I read it correctly, yes, double whole rests are the standard in 4/2 time. The piece that I am editing is a multimovement work, with the first movement being in 4/4 time, and the last movement being the one in 4/2 time. I may have to resort to speedy entry and put in the double whole rests. Do you know how I can get Finale to center those double whole rests (I did that many years ago, but don't remember how I did centered the rests). Thanks, Martin On May 16, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Ryan wrote: You're correct that the convention is to use a double whole rest in 4/2 (and possibly some other large meters). I'd say that today that practice is somewhat antiquated. Players will instantly understand that they are to remain silent for the entire measure if there's a regular whole rest. That being said, if you really want the double whole rest as the Default Whole Rest in Finale, go to Doc OptionsNotes RestsRest Characters pop up menu. Choose Default Whole Rest. Select the double whole rest character (it's in slot 227 on my machine). Note that this will change all default whole rests for every measure, regardless of the time signature. If you're working in only 4/2, then this is probably OK. AFAIK, there is no way to have Finale automatically use double whole rests in 4/2 and regular whole rests in all other meters in the same document. You could insert them manually as expressions, though. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Gippo Mercoli i...@clubgippo.com wrote: I recenty had to solve a similar situation and I discovered (or should I had to know?!) that no matter about the time signature, empty bars need whole rest. -- Gippo Mercoli www.clubgippo.com Il giorno 16/mag/2014, alle ore 17:05, Martin Banner mbanner...@aol.com ha scritto: I am preparing a modern edition of an 18th century choral/orchestral work. The last several movements are in cut time (4/2), four beats to a measure, half note gets the beat. Finale uses a whole rest as the default empty measure rest, but I'm not sure if this is preferable, or a double whole rest (which is what actually is written by the composer in his autograph score). For a modern edition, is standard practice for an empty measure in 4/2 time a whole rest or double whole rest? If the concensus is double whole rest, how does one get the double whole rest centered in the empty measures? Thanks, Martin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] OT: Baroque Articulation
For those who transcribe baroque manuscripts. Am I correct in assuming that the articulation mark that looks like a modern staccatissimo dagger should be transcribed as a modern staccato dot? It has been suggested to me that it should be interpreted as an articulated note and not necessarily as a staccato in the modern sense (or is this rubbish?) Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Baroque Articulation
I have a client that uses these articulations pretty extensively, in addition to normal staccato dots. We refer to them as martellato staccato, and IIRC they are accented staccato. YMMV. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On May 20, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote: For those who transcribe baroque manuscripts. Am I correct in assuming that the articulation mark that looks like a modern staccatissimo dagger should be transcribed as a modern staccato dot? It has been suggested to me that it should be interpreted as an articulated note and not necessarily as a staccato in the modern sense (or is this rubbish?) Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Baroque Articulation
I would try to reproduce the sign (a hyphen rotated 90 degrees CCW) in your editions. Most specialists will know what to do with it. The consensus seems to be something between a marcato and a slightly shortend, slightly accented portato. Easy enough in Shape Designer. Eric * Habsburger Verlag Frankfurt (Dr. Fiedler) www.habsburgerverlag.de webmas...@habsburgerverlag.de * Am 20.05.2014 um 18:02 schrieb Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com: For those who transcribe baroque manuscripts. Am I correct in assuming that the articulation mark that looks like a modern staccatissimo dagger should be transcribed as a modern staccato dot? It has been suggested to me that it should be interpreted as an articulated note and not necessarily as a staccato in the modern sense (or is this rubbish?) Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Baroque Articulation
It's such a thorny issue because in many baroque parts, the markings are so inconsistent (sometimes they are clearly staccato markings, but in a set of doublet-parts, where there are two copies of violin 1, the same bar will have wedges / daggers. My editor has suggested to duplicate the markings as found in the sources and note the inconsistently and let the performers make their own decisions. Most musicians who are trained in early music or perform on historical instruments will make their own choices anyway. Thanks Kim Am 20.05.2014 um 18:02 schrieb Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com: For those who transcribe baroque manuscripts. Am I correct in assuming that the articulation mark that looks like a modern staccatissimo dagger should be transcribed as a modern staccato dot? It has been suggested to me that it should be interpreted as an articulated note and not necessarily as a staccato in the modern sense (or is this rubbish?) Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Baroque Articulation
Thanks to all who have responded. What I have done so far is what Kim has suggested. I thought, having never had any formal training in transcription, that maybe I was missing something. Thanks, Lawrence On 20 May 2014 18:13, Kim Patrick Clow telem...@gmail.com wrote: It's such a thorny issue because in many baroque parts, the markings are so inconsistent (sometimes they are clearly staccato markings, but in a set of doublet-parts, where there are two copies of violin 1, the same bar will have wedges / daggers. My editor has suggested to duplicate the markings as found in the sources and note the inconsistently and let the performers make their own decisions. Most musicians who are trained in early music or perform on historical instruments will make their own choices anyway. Thanks Kim Am 20.05.2014 um 18:02 schrieb Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com: For those who transcribe baroque manuscripts. Am I correct in assuming that the articulation mark that looks like a modern staccatissimo dagger should be transcribed as a modern staccato dot? It has been suggested to me that it should be interpreted as an articulated note and not necessarily as a staccato in the modern sense (or is this rubbish?) Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] clear manual positioning of tuplets
Finale 2014 Mac OS X 10.9 I'd like to reset the manual positioning of all tuplets so they revert back to the tuple settings I've defined. I copied and pasted music from someone else's file and their tuplet settings were included. I'm looking for a way to automatically clear all tuplets without having to edit them individually. I've used the Change…Tuplets command under the Utilities menu, but that doesn't clear any of the manual positioning. Thanks ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] clear manual positioning of tuplets
Does the Reset button in Change...-Tuplets not achieve what you wish? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: Finale 2014 Mac OS X 10.9 I'd like to reset the manual positioning of all tuplets so they revert back to the tuple settings I've defined. I copied and pasted music from someone else's file and their tuplet settings were included. I'm looking for a way to automatically clear all tuplets without having to edit them individually. I've used the Change…Tuplets command under the Utilities menu, but that doesn't clear any of the manual positioning. Thanks ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
