Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 17, 2004, at 2:36 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Rather than being a throwback to Sammy Davis Jr and Robert Goulet, 
he's more of a throwback to Andrea Bocelli, very similar in his rise 
to fame in the U.S. but with an American accent rather than Italian.
In terms of marketing, Groban certainly follows the Bocelli model, and 
Charlotte Church, too.  I wasn't talking about that; I was talking 
about how he sings. In terms of vocal production Groban and Bocelli are 
very different.

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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Aug 2004 at 5:36, dhbailey wrote:

 What's lifting Josh Groban to his popularity is the fact that he is on
 PBS every begathon, which at least around my area seems to be
 happening every weekend.

If that were his only exposure, I'd never have seen him, because I 
won't watch PBS during pledge drives (I watch it hardly at all, 
anyway -- the TiVo hardly ever finds anything worth watching, and 
when it does, the local station often doesn't start/end it on time), 
since PBS stations have this very strange habit of featuring 
completely different programming during pledge drives. And that 
programming (Yanni and so forth) is stuff you couldn't pay me to 
watch.

I long ago completely gave up on PBS.

NPR is another story entirely, though -- still completely listenable, 
though nowadays I spend more time listening to AirAmerica.

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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-17 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 17, 2004, at 10:51 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:
If that were his only exposure, I'd never have seen him, because I
won't watch PBS during pledge drives (I watch it hardly at all,
anyway -- the TiVo hardly ever finds anything worth watching, and
when it does, the local station often doesn't start/end it on time),
since PBS stations have this very strange habit of featuring
completely different programming during pledge drives. And that
programming (Yanni and so forth) is stuff you couldn't pay me to
watch.
I too hate PBS -- just as craven as private stations but hypocitical 
about it.

I first heard Josh Groban when he guest-starred on the TV show Ally 
McBeal.

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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-16 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 16, 2004, at 10:34 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Yeah, I agree. When he sang at the Super Bowl, it was as unto a breath 
of fresh air in an otherwise  putrid, stale,  showboat of hype. I 
remember my head jerking up to attention.
I'm in the opera world, and the opera snobs get all bent out of shape 
when Groban is marketed as classical or, worse, operatic, which he 
surely isn't.

On the other hand, he's got a good healthy production for a crooner, 
more like a throwback to the old days -- Perry Como, Pat Boone, etc -- 
and I like that.  Not many others singing like that nowadays.

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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-16 Thread Crystal Premo
I'm in the opera world, and the opera snobs get all bent out of shape when 
Groban is marketed as classical or, worse, operatic, which he surely 
isn't.

I think the fact that he is sort of out of place in time is interesting.  
The most popular male singers of this day are so far removed from what 
Groban does that it makes him seem to some a classical singer.  However, 
in your world, he is a crooner.  This makes me smile because in my world he 
is pretty far from being a real crooner, even like one of the square guys 
you referenced.  Either way, it's like you've said:  he's a throwback.  It 
is his innate personality that is lifting him up to mainstream popularity, I 
think.  I heard real estate brokers talking about him in the office, people 
mostly in their thirties who are so obsessed with their work that I've never 
heard them talk about anything else before.

If this were, oh, 1962, he would be in the company of Robert Goulet and 
Sammy Davis, Jr., and a large number of others like them, and he wouldn't 
stand out so much.


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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
So why is this list getting these messages?!?!?!
Crystal Premo wrote:
I'm in the opera world, and the opera snobs get all bent out of shape 
when Groban is marketed as classical or, worse, operatic, which he 
surely isn't.

I think the fact that he is sort of out of place in time is 
interesting.  The most popular male singers of this day are so far 
removed from what Groban does that it makes him seem to some a 
classical singer.  However, in your world, he is a crooner.  This 
makes me smile because in my world he is pretty far from being a real 
crooner, even like one of the square guys you referenced.  Either way, 
it's like you've said:  he's a throwback.  It is his innate 
personality that is lifting him up to mainstream popularity, I think.  
I heard real estate brokers talking about him in the office, people 
mostly in their thirties who are so obsessed with their work that I've 
never heard them talk about anything else before.

If this were, oh, 1962, he would be in the company of Robert Goulet 
and Sammy Davis, Jr., and a large number of others like them, and he 
wouldn't stand out so much.

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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-15 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:59:54 -0700, Eric Dannewitz
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 There is no task bar on the mac. If you're using OS X, it's the Dock.
 Simply click and drag the icon out of the dock.

Alternatively, if an icon somehow made its way to the menu bar at the
top, you can command-click and drag it off to remove it.

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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-15 Thread James Bailey
Okay, so if an icon suddenly appeared then either you dragged it to the dock
or you installed a piece of software.  In the former case, just drag it off.
In the latter case, you would have had to have entered your password to
install it.  The information here isn't enough to know what happened, nor
what you want to do about it.

A post like this would be better served with more information and on the
discussion boards at Apple support.


Auf 15.08.2004 12:54 Uhr, schrieb Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 A student brought me Josh Groban newest release to listen to, and when I
 popped it into my MAC, it seized up.  An icon also appeared in the task bar
 that has the word Start in it.  I had to UNPLUG to get it to let go.  Even
 though no damage was done, the icon has remained in the task bar.  If this
 had happened on my PC, with which I am infinitely more familiar, I would
 open the Start Menu and remove it.  I don't know how to do this on the MAC;
 can anyone help?
 
 Incidentally, I placed this same CD in my e-machine and a visual displays
 opens inviting me to join his fan club or some such nonsense.  I conjecture
 that this is what is bringin up the unfamiliar start icon on the MAC.
 
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Re: [Finale] OT - ITunes and Josh Groban

2004-08-15 Thread Crystal Premo
There is no task bar on the mac. If you're using OS X, it's the Dock. 
Simply click and drag the icon out of the dock.
Okay, then, the dock.  As I said, my expertise is on the PC, and dragging an 
icon out of anywhere and putting it anywhere else, including the trash, 
would not mean the end of it.  I'd like to find out what it is, and why it 
remains there in order to become more enlightened about the MAC and how it 
does odd little things like this, and for what reason.

Not sure why you titled this Itunes and Josh Groban, because you don't 
mention anything about iTunes in your post. 
ITunes popped up when I put the CD in, as it always does.
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