[Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-19 Thread bill sinclair
I thought about the enharmonic spelling issue - - You could set up up a non-standard key signature for melodic minor, for instance for G melodic minor, use F#, and B flat. That is the only place I can think of where major or minor might be treated differently. But another way to handle it

[Finale] awkward key signature menu (correction)

2012-04-19 Thread bill sinclair
Actually, for G harmonic minor you would use B flat and F sharp. For melodic minor, you would use just E flat, and for the natural minor, use B and E flat. When you say G minor, there is a lot of ambiguity, since there are 3 possible choices. That's why I think it's better NOT to give it a name.

Re: [Finale] awkward key signature menu (correction)

2012-04-19 Thread Steve Parker
But there aren't three choices.. All three are identical in preferring Eb over D#, Bb over A# and F# over Gb. The order of likelihood of any spelling is the same. Steve P. On 19 Apr 2012, at 14:29, bill sinclair billsi...@aol.com wrote: Actually, for G harmonic minor you would use B flat

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-19 Thread Steve Parker
I would rather it made more distinctions. I would like hitting the 9 key to change to the key and mode first without trying seven exotic options before an Eb major triad. I would also like 'prefer flats' or 'prefer sharps' to be expanded to 'prefer G minor' etc. Steve P. On 18 Apr 2012, at

Re: [Finale] awkward key signature menu (correction)

2012-04-19 Thread John Howell
At 9:29 AM -0400 4/19/12, bill sinclair wrote: Actually, for G harmonic minor you would use B flat and F sharp. For melodic minor, you would use just E flat, and for the natural minor, use B and E flat. When you say G minor, there is a lot of ambiguity, since there are 3 possible choices. That's

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-19 Thread Steve Parker
'Melodic minor' is neither a key nor a mode. It is a melodic or harmonic choice within a minor key (or momentary minor key). Steve P. On 19 Apr 2012, at 14:13, bill sinclair wrote: You could set up up a non-standard key signature for melodic minor, for instance for G melodic minor, use F#,

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-19 Thread John Howell
At 4:12 PM +0100 4/19/12, Steve Parker wrote: 'Melodic minor' is neither a key nor a mode. It is a melodic or harmonic choice within a minor key (or momentary minor key). Which is to say that it's a variation of the natural minor scale (also known as Glarean's Aeolian mode). And so is the

[Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread bill sinclair
They have a really awkward feature that I wish would be fixed - - - When you request a key signature, it makes a distinction between a major key and a minor key with the exact same pattern of sharps and flats. For example, they call C minor a DIFFERENT key signature than E flat major. Why even

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread Lawrence Yates
Aren't the major and minor keys treated differently when it comes to using the spelling tables for accidentals? Cheers, Lawrence On 18 April 2012 17:36, bill sinclair billsi...@aol.com wrote: They have a really awkward feature that I wish would be fixed - - - When you request a key

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
The choice of a major vs. minor key affects the default enharmonic spelling when entering notes using a MIDI keyboard. For example, in G minor, you'd generally want F#'s, whereas in Bb major, you'd generally want Gb's. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 18 Apr

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread J D Thomas
It also impacts chord symbol entry, especially from a MIDI keyboard. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: The choice of a major vs. minor key affects the default enharmonic spelling when entering notes using a MIDI keyboard. For example, in G

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread Raymond Horton
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote: Aren't the major and minor keys treated differently when it comes to using the spelling tables for accidentals? Cheers, Lawrence Not really, but you are close. I thought what your description is so, myself, but

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread Michael Mathew
] Awkward key signature menu They have a really awkward feature that I wish would be fixed - - - When you request a key signature, it makes a distinction between a major key and a minor key with the exact same pattern of sharps and flats. For example, they call C minor a DIFFERENT key signature

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
You must not have had Use Spelling Tables turned on. Try turning that on, and then enter a G melodic minor scale with a key signature of Bb major, then with a key signature of G minor. You'll see that in Bb, it's spelled with a Gb, and in G minor, it's spelled with an F#. Cheers, - DJA -

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Hmm, I think the default may have been different between major and minor in older versions, but in my WinFin 2011, input in major vs. minor did not make any difference - until, a couple of minutes ago, I went to the Edit/Enharmonic Spelling menu and checked Use Spelling Tables. The default

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Right - as I posted just a minute ago. I understand the difference, I was surprised to see that it was not happening as I remembered. What I believe has changed is what the default setting is, at least leading up to WinFin 2011. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of

Re: [Finale] Awkward key signature menu

2012-04-18 Thread John Howell
At 12:36 PM -0400 4/18/12, bill sinclair wrote: They have a really awkward feature that I wish would be fixed - - - When you request a key signature, it makes a distinction between a major key and a minor key with the exact same pattern of sharps and flats. For example, they call C minor a