[Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Can anyone point me at a reliable modern transcription of this chant? I found a PDF in chant notation, but it has been too long since I had to read chant notation to be certain I'm reading it correctly. Thanks very much, Robert -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:07 PM 1/6/2007 -0600, Robert Patterson wrote: Can anyone point me at a reliable modern transcription of this chant? I found a PDF in chant notation, but it has been too long since I had to read chant notation to be certain I'm reading it correctly. HAM 120a, but it's only for the incipit

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Barbara Touburg
If you send me the pdf I could give a transcription a try. Barbara Robert Patterson wrote: Can anyone point me at a reliable modern transcription of this chant? I found a PDF in chant notation, but it has been too long since I had to read chant notation to be certain I'm reading it correctly.

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jan 2007 at 16:07, Robert Patterson wrote: Can anyone point me at a reliable modern transcription of this chant? I found a PDF in chant notation, but it has been too long since I had to read chant notation to be certain I'm reading it correctly. What do you need besides pitch? I mean,

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Barbara Touburg
David W. Fenton wrote: I just don't understand how anyone could have difficulties with transcribing chant notation, Correct transcription of the various neumes, perhaps? Interpretation of different embellishments? (Yes, they exist in Gregorian chant, as do microtonal notation.)

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Ficta or embellishments are my concern. Also how to read ligatures, although the particular example is quite simple. Also how to interpret dashes and dots over/by tones. My exposure is mostly limited to one medieval music survey course 25 years ago, so I don't have the advantages of many on

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Barbara Touburg
I'm going to sleep now (it's 1.14 over here). More to (my) morrow. Robert Patterson wrote: Ficta or embellishments are my concern. Also how to read ligatures, although the particular example is quite simple. Also how to interpret dashes and dots over/by tones. My exposure is mostly limited to

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread John Howell
At 4:07 PM -0600 1/6/07, Robert Patterson wrote: Can anyone point me at a reliable modern transcription of this chant? I found a PDF in chant notation, but it has been too long since I had to read chant notation to be certain I'm reading it correctly. I'm afraid my Liber is in chant notation

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Jan 2007 at 18:05, Robert Patterson wrote: Ficta or embellishments are my concern. There's no agreement on what those should be. Also how to read ligatures, Eh? What's complicated about it? I'm missing something here. although the particular example is quite simple. Also how to

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread John Howell
At 6:05 PM -0600 1/6/07, Robert Patterson wrote: Ficta or embellishments are my concern. Hi, Robert. Ficta should not be a factor in the chant, just in later useages of the chant in polyphonic pieces, but even that use of ficta is an artifact of the arrangement and not of the original

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias--Oops!

2007-01-06 Thread John Howell
At 9:24 PM -0500 1/6/07, John Howell wrote: The melody covers the entire soft hexachord, G to E, and does not exceed it. Sorry. That should be the entire hard hexachord. David and Dennis will know the difference! Mea culpa. John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jan 6, 2007, at 9:24 PM, John Howell wrote: OK, I just realized that there's one obvious exception in chant, the use of una nota super la semper est canendum fa (i.e., one note that exceeds the upper range of the hexachord--la--and returns to it is sung fa or lowered. This almost

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Robert Patterson
David W. Fenton wrote: But my bet, as I said above, is that you want one of the two versions I mentioned above, tending towards the melody of Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland. Thanks for the further info. I should have followed some of those links my self. I tend towards the Nun komm melody