Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-03 Thread Bob Morabito
Hi Darcy-- The correct price is $85, not $65 dollars, and its regularly $169, not $129 http://shop.avid.com/store/product.do?product=306830378742688 The sale has been going on for the entire month of January and has been extended to Feb 14, due to strong demand , and problems keeping

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Bob, If you had actually clicked the link in my original message, you would have found that the offer I mentioned is indeed $65, reduced from $129. Here's the link again: http://store.soundtree.com/Sibelius-6-Upgrade-Academic_p_239.html Cheers, - DJA - WEB:

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi all, Well, that message came off as rather grumpier than I'd intended! Sorry about that, Bob. The $65 upgrade price I linked to is the Academic price. Bob is indeed correct that the upgrade price for non-academic users is $85 -- unlike Finale, Sibelius has tiered pricing for upgrades as

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-03 Thread Bob Morabito
No problem Darcy-- and i had already emailed the list, previous to your email here, explaining about the Academic vs the Professional upgrade.. however my emails to this list sometimes take hours to get here.. Thanks Bob On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi all, Well,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-03 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Bob, Thanks for your understanding! The occasional very long delays before emails go out to the list are a mystery to me too. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 3 Feb 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bob Morabito wrote: No problem Darcy-- and i had already emailed the

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-03 Thread Bob Morabito
Hi Darcy-- Yes and thats for the ACADEMIC upgrade..the price I quoted was for the PROFESSIONAL upgrade, which I believe more people would be using, and qualified for. Thanks Bob Morabito On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Bob, If you had actually clicked the link in

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-03 Thread Bob Morabito
Hi Darcy- You're welcome..and I see my referred to post below just arrived..almost an hour later..:) Thanks Bob On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for your understanding! The occasional very long delays before emails go out to the list are a mystery to

[Finale] Sibelius 6 upgrade sale

2011-02-02 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi all, For those on this list who also use Sibelius from time to time (as I do), you may be interested to know that they are offering heavily discounted upgrades to Sib6 from earlier versions (currently $65 instead of $129): http://store.soundtree.com/Sibelius-6-Upgrade-Academic_p_239.html

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 to 5

2010-10-03 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Send it to me Dennis. On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:48 PM, dc den...@free.fr wrote: Could anyone convert one Sibelius 6 file to 5 (or to xml)? Many thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 to 5

2010-10-03 Thread John Howell
At 8:48 PM +0200 10/3/10, dc wrote: Could anyone convert one Sibelius 6 file to 5 (or to xml)? Many thanks, Dennis Yes. Anyone with Sibelius 6 can save it (Export it in Sib-speak) as anything back to and including Sibelius 2. I can also open anything back to Sibelius 2. It is only

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-26 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 25.05.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: How is pointing out past history in danger of starting a platform war? David, I didn't mean that you were starting one, but I wanted to prevent anyone else from making one out of this. It has happened every single time in the past. Johannes

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-26 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 25.05.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: How is pointing out past history in danger of starting a platform war? David, I didn't mean that you were starting one, but I wanted to prevent anyone else from making one out of this. It has happened every single time in the

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-25 Thread Mark McCarron
...@musikmanufaktur.com wrote: From: Johannes Gebauer li...@musikmanufaktur.com Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 1:29 AM On 25.05.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: On 24 May 2009 at 19:21, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's been three and a half years since

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 May 2009 at 7:29, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 25.05.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: On 24 May 2009 at 19:21, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's been three and a half years since the Intel Macs were first introduced, which is practically an eternity in tech-years. You are going to

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-24 Thread Mark McCarron
Sibelius 6 requires Core Duo or better, 1GB+ total physical RAM (2GB recommended), 3.5GB total hard disk space Those of us who still use G5s would have to upgrade before using Sibelius 6. Mark McCarron ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-24 Thread Will Roberts
On Sat, 23 May 2009 13:20 -0700, Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com wrote: Sibelius 6 requires Core Duo or better, 1GB+ total physical RAM (2GB recommended), 3.5GB total hard disk space Those of us who still use G5s would have to upgrade before using Sibelius 6. That's not what the web site

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-24 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 25.05.2009 Will Roberts wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2009 13:20 -0700, Mark McCarron mmcg...@yahoo.com wrote: Sibelius 6 requires Core Duo or better, 1GB+ total physical RAM (2GB recommended), 3.5GB total hard disk space Those of us who still use G5s would have to upgrade before using

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
It's been three and a half years since the Intel Macs were first introduced, which is practically an eternity in tech-years. You are going to see a lot of new software dropping PPC support soon. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 23 May 2009, at 4:20 PM, Mark

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-24 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 May 2009 at 19:21, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's been three and a half years since the Intel Macs were first introduced, which is practically an eternity in tech-years. You are going to see a lot of new software dropping PPC support soon. There's history on this. After the switch to

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-24 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 25.05.2009 Johannes Gebauer wrote: The German blurb says only: Mac Sibelius 5: Mac OS X 10.4.9 oder neuer oder Mac OS X 10.5, 350 MB Festplattenkapazität, 512 MB oder mehr RAM empfohlen, DVD-ROM-Laufwerk Sibelius Sounds Essentials und Kontakt Player 2: 3,5 GB Festplattenkapazität

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-24 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 25.05.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: On 24 May 2009 at 19:21, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's been three and a half years since the Intel Macs were first introduced, which is practically an eternity in tech-years. You are going to see a lot of new software dropping PPC support soon.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Michael Good
I wanted to reply to a couple of the comments raised regarding file conversion back and forth between Finale and Sibelius: I won't switch until either MakeMusic goes under or until Sibelius can open, natively, Finale files. The latter will not happen. Sibelius 6 has removed the importers for

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread João Pais
- sibelius' user base is (still) mainly based on the people who use it lightly or for industrial purposes, and not for serious engraving. these persons are usually happy with the program/standard output as is, and many times don't go down enough to get into some of the small

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread João Pais
At first, I just let that roll off. Over the years, I have come to expect that kind of condescending attitude from some Finale users. Indeed, that was my frist response to Sibelius (v.1) 10 years ago after years of Finale use (beginning with Fin 2.2). probably that sounds condescending, but

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread João Pais
- sibelius' user base is (still) mainly based on the people who use it lightly or for industrial purposes, and not for serious engraving. these persons are usually happy with the program/standard output as is, and many times don't go down enough to get into some of the small

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread dhbailey
mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote: If you approach Sibelius as if it were Finale, you'll be frustrated. If you're willing to let Sibelius be itself and change your working method to fit Sibelius, you'll probably be very happy. Finale and Sibelius think differently. If you think like Sibelius you'll

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Yeah ... it's kind of like finding a church you like. Sort of -- usually with finding a church you like, that's where you stay, rather than finding two different churches you like and alternating worship services between the two. But with notation software,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: That sounds fair enough. The only trouble is my entire computer notation life was built ground up with Finale, so I find Sibelius hard to get around. Mine had been as well, moving from MusicPrinterPlus to Finale way back around 1991 or so, and then making the first

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread dhbailey
João Pais wrote: - sibelius' user base is (still) mainly based on the people who use it lightly or for industrial purposes, and not for serious engraving. these persons are usually happy with the program/standard output as is, and many times don't go down enough to get into some of the small

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread dhbailey
João Pais wrote: At first, I just let that roll off. Over the years, I have come to expect that kind of condescending attitude from some Finale users. Indeed, that was my frist response to Sibelius (v.1) 10 years ago after years of Finale use (beginning with Fin 2.2). probably that sounds

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Sibelius and Makemusic both understand that most of their user base are casual users. No shame in that. But it is true that Sibelius works better for the casual user - by design - than Finale does. And while there have been improvements in Finale's defaults, there is still much room for

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 22, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Sibelius and Makemusic both understand that most of their user base are casual users. No shame in that. But it is true that Sibelius works better for the casual user - by design - than Finale does. And while there have been

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread João Pais
Just read a cross-sample of the backgrounds of the users on the Sibelius list -- There are people who are making arrangements which are performed at the prestigious Proms concerts at the Albert Hall in London, there are people whose arrangements and compositions are published by major

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread João Pais
I've been in both probably since I started earning my living mainly engraving, around 4 years ago - which is nothing compared with many of you guys. of course it's true what you say - but in the sibelius list I rarely/never saw a thread about good quality fonts, printers, binding, editing

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread music
the little I know from finale tells me that it has the possibility to go into much finer detail than sibelius - and has many things I would like to see implemented in sibelius (I guess that it *might* happen sooner or later - except if finale disappers). Finale is *not* more capable of fine

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Florence + Michael
On 21 May 2009, at 22:09, David W. Fenton wrote: On 21 May 2009 at 9:45, Chuck Israels wrote: On May 21, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: the Magnetic layout is all there really is that stands out. I agree, but that seems extraordinarily attractive. I would second that (or, I

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (6 chord size)

2009-05-22 Thread Mark McCarron
wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:30 AM On May 22, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Sibelius and Makemusic both understand that most of their user base are casual users

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (6 chord size)

2009-05-22 Thread Christopher Smith
suprise there is a way do do it all at once. Mark McCarron --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 8:30 AM On May 22, 2009

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread John Howell
At 7:07 AM -0400 5/22/09, dhbailey wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Yeah ... it's kind of like finding a church you like. Sort of -- usually with finding a church you like, that's where you stay, rather than finding two different churches you like and alternating worship services between

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Maybe one can chalk this up to newbie ignorance, but here's another one against Sibelius: Let's say you have a high flute, violin or trombone part with several ledger lines, and the system breaks on a slurred passage. The engraver's default is that broken slurs over a system should end a

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yeah, the linguistic analogy serves the best, I think. In addition, when one abjures the religious analogy, one avoids any possible moral consequences prescribed by a given dogma. Brings to mind one of my favorite lines from Fiddler On The Roof, to wit, How can they both be right? Dean

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
It's been a few weeks since I've worked on a Band Score, but my memory is that if I set up the score via the Wizard, and want to work in Concert Pitch (which I always do), that the Bari Sax part is in bass clef, and as soon as I toggle to Transposed Score, it appears in Treble Clef

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread music
mu...@rgsmithmusic.com écrit: Sure there are thing that Finale does better than Sibelius or that Sibelius can't do at all. I know things that Sibelius does that Finale can't and the MM people have admitted to me that it won't. Could you give a few examples? I can think of Unicode support, but

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread music
You are correct. That was fixed in Version 5. The sutdents need to be sure they select the right instrument. Bass reeds (and euphonia) have instruments configured to read in several different ways. To fit American conventions, they want to choose the one that is treble clef transposed in a

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread music
You are correct. That was fixed in Version 5. The sutdents need to be sure they select the right instrument. Bass reeds (and euphonia) have instruments configured to read in several different ways. To fit American conventions, they want to choose the one that is treble clef transposed in a

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread music
Sib 6 answer: The slur now has 6 (I think) control boxes that can pull it in many different directions. You can drag it with a mouse (clumsy) or the arrow keys (elegant), and they can be adjusted independently in parts and score. You really should check out the new slurs. They're greatly improved.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Thank you! I will be sure to pass that on to my students. I am happy to know that it was fixed recently. If a student comes to me with a score that he DIDN'T use the Wizard, what should I tell him? Obviously, use the Wizard next time, but until then? Christopher On May 22, 2009, at 1:44

RE: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread DANIEL CARNO
-Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:07 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 Maybe one can chalk this up to newbie ignorance, but here's another one against

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Oo, nice! So my ledger line problem is a thing of the past? And adjusting it in the part doesn't make it too ugly for words in the score? Christopher On May 22, 2009, at 1:49 PM, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote: Sib 6 answer: The slur now has 6 (I think) control boxes that can pull it in

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread music
Thank you! I will be sure to pass that on to my students. I am happy to know that it was fixed recently. If a student comes to me with a score that he DIDN'T use the Wizard, what should I tell him? Obviously, use the Wizard next time, but until then? Christopher Make sure nothing is

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 22, 2009, at 3:20 PM, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote: Thank you! I will be sure to pass that on to my students. I am happy to know that it was fixed recently. If a student comes to me with a score that he DIDN'T use the Wizard, what should I tell him? Obviously, use the Wizard next time,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Torges Gerhard
Hmm. Am 21.05.2009 um 18:45 schrieb Chuck Israels: Bill Duncan fonts What's so special about them? Gerhard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Stig Christensen
That's comon practise to have two masterfiles also in Finale. Use the one for your score, and the other for the parts! regards Stigc56 Den 22/05/2009 kl. 14.43 skrev João Pais: Just read a cross-sample of the backgrounds of the users on the Sibelius list -- There are people who are

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Florence + Michael
On 22 May 2009, at 19:49, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote: Sib 6 answer: The slur now has 6 (I think) control boxes that can pull it in many different directions. You can drag it with a mouse (clumsy) or the arrow keys (elegant), and they can be adjusted independently

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: Thank you! I will be sure to pass that on to my students. I am happy to know that it was fixed recently. If a student comes to me with a score that he DIDN'T use the Wizard, what should I tell him? Obviously, use the Wizard next time, but until then? In selecting

Re: [Finale] Sibelius (6 chord size)

2009-05-22 Thread Mark McCarron
christopher.sm...@videotron.ca Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius (6 chord size) To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 12:18 PM If you are using the Engraver default with the Arial suffixes, this can be done. But did you do this with the JazzCord library? If you increase the font size, the kerning

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread John Howell
At 10:18 AM -0700 5/22/09, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Yeah, the linguistic analogy serves the best, I think. In addition, when one abjures the religious analogy, one avoids any possible moral consequences prescribed by a given dogma. Brings to mind one of my favorite lines from Fiddler On The

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Gerhard, There are things that look especially good to my eye: an elegant chord symbol font with well spaced suffixes and reasonably easy control of making new ones; softened slashes at a slightly more vertical angle (allowing more of them in a measure, if needed); softened rhythmic

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-22 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
THERE IS NO OTHER HAND!! Dean :) On May 22, 2009, at 3:49 PM, John Howell wrote: At 10:18 AM -0700 5/22/09, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Yeah, the linguistic analogy serves the best, I think. In addition, when one abjures the religious analogy, one avoids any possible moral consequences

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Mark McCarron
: [Finale] Sibelius 6 To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 6:39 AM Darcy James Argue wrote: The demo video is really impressive. There are always hiccups and stuff that doesn't work quite as well as it could, but this feature set sure looks like a worthy upgrade, with lots of notation

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Christopher Smith
I'm actually very happy to hear that! It's entirely possible that on the average, Finale users are just pickier and crankier than your average Sibelius user. I doubt it, though. I think the comments about Sibelius' general attitude toward users are accurate, and their attitude is much

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I thought it was kind of funny that Sibelius has now even put in crap that Finale has had. Like singing in music. Which never works right. Or dynamics notated depending on how hard you played a note. Finale has had these for a while. And I wonder how the Store thing is going to monitor for

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Chuck Israels
On May 21, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: the Magnetic layout is all there really is that stands out. I agree, but that seems extraordinarily attractive. In fact, it is more than I imagined to be possible (perhaps more a reflection of my lack of programming imagination than

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yes, pitch before time is a great thing in Finale. Love it. Well, hopefully Finale 2010 will have something similar to Magnetic but I think we'll probably get something like goofy notation for kids or automatic Pop music background generation rather than something actually useful. On Thu, May

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Chuck Israels
Ye of little faith! It won't be that bad, but I don't know about magnetic stuff this soon. How much faith is correct? Hard to know. Chuck On May 21, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Yes, pitch before time is a great thing in Finale. Love it. Well, hopefully Finale 2010 will

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread John Howell
At 1:07 PM +0200 5/20/09, João Pais wrote: - sibelius' user base is (still) mainly based on the people who use it lightly or for industrial purposes, and not for serious engraving. these persons are usually happy with the program/standard output as is, and many times don't go down enough

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
They are probably the same ones that vote for American Idol singers..so90% doesn't mean right. But whatever works. I won't switch until either MakeMusic goes under or until Sibelius can open, natively, Finale files. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread John Howell
At 10:53 AM -0700 5/21/09, Eric Dannewitz wrote: They are probably the same ones that vote for American Idol singers..so90% doesn't mean right. Granted, of course. But whether or not they vote for American Idol is entirely beside the point. They're our music majors, and

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
At 1:07 PM +0200 5/20/09, João Pais wrote: - sibelius' user base is (still) mainly based on the people who use it lightly or for industrial purposes, and not for serious engraving. these persons are usually happy with the program/standard output as is, and many times don't go down enough to get

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.comwrote: They are probably the same ones that vote for American Idol singers..so90% doesn't mean right. But whatever works. I won't switch until either MakeMusic goes under or until Sibelius can open,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 May 2009 at 9:45, Chuck Israels wrote: On May 21, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: the Magnetic layout is all there really is that stands out. I agree, but that seems extraordinarily attractive. I would second that (or, I guess, THIRD it). In fact, it is more than I

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread music
At first, I just let that roll off. Over the years, I have come to expect that kind of condescending attitude from some Finale users. Indeed, that was my frist response to Sibelius (v.1) 10 years ago after years of Finale use (beginning with Fin 2.2). I'm actually writing to say how pleased I am

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I would happily switch to Sibelius (I own version 5) if I could tweak things like I can in Finale. If Bill Duncan's fonts/templates were on it, and, more importantly, if there was a way to Natively open Finale files. No XML, none of that. If Sibelius could open a Finale file and have it

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread jane
I have used Finale for years, almost from version 1. Is it hard to make the switch as far as learning it? Jane On Thu, 21 May 2009 14:37:47 -0700, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: I would happily switch to Sibelius (I own version 5) if I could tweak things like I can in Finale.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread John Howell
At 3:39 PM -0600 5/21/09, j...@janefrasier.com wrote: I have used Finale for years, almost from version 1. Is it hard to make the switch as far as learning it? Easier than learning Finale from scratch, I'm told. But there are certainly differences, and some of those differences are very

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread shirling neueweise
I'm so glad the paltform wars appear to be over. don't get too excited yet, there is still to come the final installment of the Fin-Sib war as the clans fight over who gets to feed on the charred bodily remains of score... ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread dhbailey
shirling neueweise wrote: I'm so glad the paltform wars appear to be over. don't get too excited yet, there is still to come the final installment of the Fin-Sib war as the clans fight over who gets to feed on the charred bodily remains of score... Rumors of Score's death are greatly

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread shirling neueweise
Rumors of Score's death are greatly exaggerated. :-) perhaps, but it *is* deathly ill. imagine the last 10 years of finale's bugs, poor implementations and general errors crammed into and you have the new windows version of score, their ONLY upgrade in 10 years. that is pretty much how

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread J D Thomas
Jane, I HAVE used Finale since v1.0, for over 20 years. I made the switch to Sibelius about 18 months ago. It was very easy and my karma and attitude has never been better because of it. Try it, you'll like. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On May 21, 2009, at 2:39 PM, j...@janefrasier.com

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread music
If you approach Sibelius as if it were Finale, you'll be frustrated. If you're willing to let Sibelius be itself and change your working method to fit Sibelius, you'll probably be very happy. Finale and Sibelius think differently. If you think like Sibelius you'll love it. But if you think like

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yeah ... it's kind of like finding a church you like. Dean On May 21, 2009, at 6:58 PM, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote: If you approach Sibelius as if it were Finale, you'll be frustrated. If you're willing to let Sibelius be itself and change your working method to fit Sibelius, you'll

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Christopher Smith
That sounds fair enough. The only trouble is my entire computer notation life was built ground up with Finale, so I find Sibelius hard to get around. Christopher On May 21, 2009, at 9:58 PM, mu...@rgsmithmusic.com wrote: If you approach Sibelius as if it were Finale, you'll be

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-21 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:52 PM, shirling neueweise shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: Rumors of Score's death are greatly exaggerated. :-) perhaps, but it *is* deathly ill. imagine the last 10 years of finale's bugs, poor implementations and general errors crammed into and you have

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.05.2009 Matthew Hindson wrote: And hopefully the slur improvements mean that one will no longer receive RSI as a by-product. From watching the video the slurs look very much like Finale's now, only with even more control (which I am not sure I would use), and possibly less bugs.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-20 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: The demo video is really impressive. There are always hiccups and stuff that doesn't work quite as well as it could, but this feature set sure looks like a worthy upgrade, with lots of notation-centric improvements. I hope it spurs Finale to match Sib's new features,

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-20 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 20.05.2009 Matthew Hindson wrote: And hopefully the slur improvements mean that one will no longer receive RSI as a by-product. From watching the video the slurs look very much like Finale's now, only with even more control (which I am not sure I would use), and

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-20 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: [snip] As a member of the Sibelius group at yahoogroups, I have to say that there I don't recall there being anybody who complains about the upgrade schedule. And while there are those who don't upgrade due to financial restrictions, I've never read that people aren't

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-20 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20.05.2009 dhbailey wrote: But for a down-and-dirty, do-it-in-a-minute worksheet or transposition for my students, I still fire up Finale. But a send it to the publisher project I'm using Sibelius most of the time. Well, for me, this was simply not an option with Sibelius slurs prior to

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-20 Thread João Pais
Hi, I'm another sibelius (only) user As a member of the Sibelius group at yahoogroups, I have to say that there I don't recall there being anybody who complains about the upgrade schedule. And while there are those who don't upgrade due to financial restrictions, I've never read that

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-20 Thread David W. Fenton
On 20 May 2009 at 13:07, João Pais wrote: Finale is the only program I know that only allows you to save in the latest version (or am I not updated)? This is very common for database programs, and Finale is built around a database engine, and I've always assumed that explained the issue.

[Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-19 Thread Matthew Hindson
... is out Apparently the magnetic layout feature is a real plus for engraving, saving a lot of time. And hopefully the slur improvements mean that one will no longer receive RSI as a by-product. http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/6/index.html Matthew

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-19 Thread jane
What is RSI? Jane On Wed, 20 May 2009 08:53:32 +1000, Matthew Hindson mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: ... is out Apparently the magnetic layout feature is a real plus for engraving, saving a lot of time. And hopefully the slur improvements mean that one will no longer receive RSI as a

RE: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-19 Thread Williams, Jim
@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6 What is RSI? Jane On Wed, 20 May 2009 08:53:32 +1000, Matthew Hindson mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: ... is out Apparently the magnetic layout feature is a real plus for engraving, saving a lot of time. And hopefully the slur improvements mean

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-19 Thread dhbailey
Williams, Jim wrote: Repetitive Strain Injury...from too much mousing and other futzing with slurs, endings, etc. Good thing that's never a problem with Finale, eh? ;-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-19 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 19, 2009, at 8:03 PM, dhbailey wrote: Williams, Jim wrote: Repetitive Strain Injury...from too much mousing and other futzing with slurs, endings, etc. Good thing that's never a problem with Finale, eh? ;-) Mmphhh! Christopher ___

Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6

2009-05-19 Thread Darcy James Argue
The demo video is really impressive. There are always hiccups and stuff that doesn't work quite as well as it could, but this feature set sure looks like a worthy upgrade, with lots of notation-centric improvements. I hope it spurs Finale to match Sib's new features, especially the layout