Sibelius is trying to lure Finale users yet again:
The crossgrade from Finale to Sibelius5 is only $99, so for people who
have wondered what the big deal is with Sibelius or who have been
anxious to give it a real try beyond what the demo shows:
Ok, so what should I do: I have Fin2k7. I am tempted to upgrade to 2k9.
Or should I crossgrade to Sibelius?
Johannes
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At 11:28 +0200 25/07/08, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I am tempted to upgrade to 2k9. Or should I crossgrade to Sibelius?
2k9 ;-)
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Do both!
That's what I did last year.
Chriistopher
On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:28 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Ok, so what should I do: I have Fin2k7. I am tempted to upgrade to
2k9. Or should I crossgrade to Sibelius?
Johannes
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On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:05 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Sibelius is trying to lure Finale users yet again:
The crossgrade from Finale to Sibelius5 is only $99, so for people
who have wondered what the big deal is with Sibelius or who have
been anxious to give it a real try beyond what the demo
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Ok, so what should I do: I have Fin2k7. I am tempted to upgrade to 2k9.
Or should I crossgrade to Sibelius?
Johannes
Good question, and one that only you can really answer.
What I have found in working with Sibelius5 is that it is as easy to get
data entry as
If you haven't worked with Sibelius you might consider $99 a small,
but effective investment. I did just that last year.
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On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:28 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Ok, so what should I do: I
On Fri, July 25, 2008 6:27 am, Christopher Smith wrote:
I got it last year, not so much because I am about to jump ship, but
because students are submitting work in Sibelius and I have to be
able to help them.
I got it last year because I thought some of my engraving clients might be
using it.
At 07:31 AM 7/25/2008, dhbailey wrote:
One major difference is that Sibelius has several different types of
expression text -- there is Technique text and there is Expression text,
whereas in Finale it's all grouped together as Text Expressions. In
Sibelius it's possible to edit the appearance
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:31 AM, dhbailey
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I can't think of anything which is possible in Finale which isn't
possible in Sibelius these days,
Sib4 could not even do something as trivial as nested instrument
brackets. Can Sib5 do these?
ust as there are probably things
Sibelius 5 works the same as 4 with regard to instrument brackets; you
can place thin sub-brackets within any bracketed instrument sets.
Braces will collide with brackets so should not be used together. Fine
if thats the setup you need but if you need more flexibility or nested
braces,
On 25.07.2008 dhbailey wrote:
I can't think of anything which is possible in Finale which isn't
possible in Sibelius these days, although I'm sure there are some
obscure things, just as there are probably things possible with Sibelius
which are not possible (or are difficult) in Finale, although
Richard Smith wrote:
Sibelius 5 works the same as 4 with regard to instrument brackets; you
can place thin sub-brackets within any bracketed instrument sets.
But you can't further nest the sub-brackets, right. So the Rite of
Spring score is not readily possible. If I can't even get past
Well, I can place brackets (heavy vertical line with or without wings)
inside of or outside of sub-brackets (the thin bracket) by changing the
distance from staff in the House styleEngraving rulesbrackets
menu. I can also move the braces (the curly, piano style bracket) so
they are outside of
Good summary, David. Thanks.
Dick H
On Jul 25, 2008, at 4:31 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Ok, so what should I do: I have Fin2k7. I am tempted to upgrade to
2k9. Or should I crossgrade to Sibelius?
Johannes
Good question, and one that only you can really answer.
What I
I continue this thread not because I desire terribly to defend Finale,
but because I want to understand if Sibelius is really a viable alternative.
In Finale, you can nest brackets (in my case, desk brackets)
arbitrarily deep. These automatically reconfigure themselves as needed,
both in
Whoa, I just saw this, but I don't buy it. Please explain how Sib is any
better than using the mass-apply metatool approach in Finale.
dhbailey wrote:
application of
a large number of articulations is easier in Sib5 than in Finale up
through 2008 (I can't speak for 2009).
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I'm not buying it either. I'm not sure if Richard is aware of Finale's
mass-apply metatool approach, but it is definitely *much* faster than
any method of applying articulations in Sibelius.
Cheers,
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On 25 Jul 2008, at 1:23 PM, Robert Patterson
Robert Patterson wrote:
Whoa, I just saw this, but I don't buy it. Please explain how Sib is any
better than using the mass-apply metatool approach in Finale.
dhbailey wrote:
application of
a large number of articulations is easier in Sib5 than in Finale up
through 2008 (I can't speak for
It was David (me) who made that comment Robert was questioning --
Sibelius allows many different editing functions on ctrl-click selected
non-contiguous notes, applying an accidental (which does apply to
playback), removing an accidental, raising or lowering those specified
notes by a uniform
On 25.07.2008 J D Thomas wrote:
From my experience over the past 10 months of using Sibelius 5 a LOT, I would
say slurs in S5 are WAY behind Finale 2K7, which is what I'm on. Entering them
is pretty easy but different from Finale, and not at all hard to get used to.
But the look is more
Actually you can hold down a metatool and drag-enclose a whole bunch
of notes (horizontally and vertically) and apply them en masse. You
do need to select (click) each note in Sibelius to apply multiple
aritcs at once.
And don't forget that you can hold down the delete key and drag-
On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:19 PM, dhbailey wrote:
John Blane wrote:
Actually you can hold down a metatool and drag-enclose a whole
bunch of notes (horizontally and vertically) and apply them en
masse. You do need to select (click) each note in Sibelius to
apply multiple aritcs at once.
In
The extra brackets from the lines menu are a bit of a kludge. These are
basically horizontal lines that are attached to notes but can be turned
into vertical. They do not move with the staff and would have to be
inserted individually on each page. I think, if that was needed, I'd do
it the
Richard Smith wrote:
It's definitely happened both ways though I think
Sibelius has influenced Finale more than Finale has Sibelius.
The main way Finale influenced Sib was in Sib's initial market entry.
The list of features in Sib was a list of everything it did that Finale
did not. Thus,
I agree whole heartedly Robert. Most of the complaints and insults
hurled at both programs are long outdated. I am glad that in the last 2
or 3 years the platform wars seem to have subsided. Since Fin05 I think
the difference in most cases is mainly one of preferred working method
rather than
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