[Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread John Bell
Here's an oddity: the Single Pitch plugin works as advertised in major 
keys, but in minor it selects the pitch a minor 3rd below.

John
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Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread Robert Patterson
If you knew anything about the convoluted way Finale stores pitch information, 
this would not only seem not an oddity but rather all too predictable. I 
learned years ago always to use major key signatures, because apparently they 
are the only ones that programmers routinely test their code against. Finale 
itself has a history of bugs related to minor key signatures.

Is there some downside to using major key signatures? The key of Eb major looks 
exactly the same as that for c minor. Is there some advantage to setting the 
key to c minor that you don't get with Eb major?

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 Here's an oddity: the Single Pitch plugin works as advertised in major 
 keys, but in minor it selects the pitch a minor 3rd below.
 
 John
 
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Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
If you knew anything about the convoluted way Finale stores pitch 
information, this would not only seem not an oddity but rather all too 
predictable. I learned years ago always to use major key signatures, 
because apparently they are the only ones that programmers routinely 
test their code against. Finale itself has a history of bugs related 
to minor key signatures.

Is there some downside to using major key signatures? The key of Eb 
major looks exactly the same as that for c minor. Is there some 
advantage to setting the key to c minor that you don't get with Eb 
major?

If you modulate from a major key to a minor key with a different number 
of sharps or flats, you don't have to reset your Enharmonic Spelling 
tables.

That's the only advantage I can think of.
On the other hand, if you enter a modulation from Eb major to C minor, 
the key signature stubbornly re-appears as if the number of flats has 
just changed. Grr.

Christopher
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Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread Richard Yates
 Is there some downside to using major key signatures? The key of Eb major
looks exactly the same as that for c minor. Is there some advantage to
setting the key to c minor that you don't get with Eb major?

I believe that in MIDI Speedy Entry (using spelling tables)  the enharmonics
turn out better, e.g. you get f# with a G minor signature, but g flat in a B
flat major signature.

Richard




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Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread James Gilbert
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Christopher Smith wrote:

 On the other hand, if you enter a modulation from Eb major to C minor,
 the key signature stubbornly re-appears as if the number of flats has
 just changed. Grr.

See
Document options-Key Signature-Redisplay key signature if only mode is
changing



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Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 3, 2005, at 10:16 AM, James Gilbert wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Christopher Smith wrote:
On the other hand, if you enter a modulation from Eb major to C minor,
the key signature stubbornly re-appears as if the number of flats has
just changed. Grr.
See
Document options-Key Signature-Redisplay key signature if only mode is
changing

That's it!
Heh, heh, I knew there was something...
Christopher
P.S., So why is this option checked by default? Just wondering...
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Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread David W. Fenton
On 3 Mar 2005 at 14:17, Robert Patterson wrote:

 Is there some downside to using major key signatures? The key of Eb
 major looks exactly the same as that for c minor. Is there some
 advantage to setting the key to c minor that you don't get with Eb
 major?

Well, correct enharmonic spellings, for one.

Of course, I have poor luck with the default settings already, and 
end up changing lots of accidentals in just about any piece I enter 
(and not just in the sections that have modulated without changing 
the key signature).

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David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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Re: [Finale] Single Pitch plugin

2005-03-03 Thread Johannes Gebauer
This is actually all configurable, and you could, theoretically, 
configure the major enharmonic table to do whatever you want in a minor 
context. However, I have never seen any disadvantage to using the minor 
key sigs, and until I will I will keep using them. It does give me two 
separate enharmonic tables.

Johannes
Richard Yates wrote:
Is there some downside to using major key signatures? The key of Eb major
looks exactly the same as that for c minor. Is there some advantage to
setting the key to c minor that you don't get with Eb major?
I believe that in MIDI Speedy Entry (using spelling tables)  the enharmonics
turn out better, e.g. you get f# with a G minor signature, but g flat in a B
flat major signature.
Richard

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