Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda
how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so my old kludge of tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. Create a unison in a second layer, tie both notes and kludge one of them. Thanks, Andrew, that seems to be the easiest solution. I just heard back from Gary in MacSupport; and that was the solution he suggests as well. I answered back that perhaps opt = on the Mac should create a backwards tie on ANY note, whether or not it starts a second ending. This would be a Martha Stewart-like Good Thing, IMHO. Christopher I agree completely, and have CCd Macsupport accordingly. This would be a truly elegant and desirable extension of an already extant function. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda
On Feb 27, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Greetings collected wisdom. I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so my old kludge of tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. Create a unison in a second layer, tie both notes and kludge one of them. Thanks, Andrew, that seems to be the easiest solution. I just heard back from Gary in MacSupport; and that was the solution he suggests as well. I answered back that perhaps opt = on the Mac should create a backwards tie on ANY note, whether or not it starts a second ending. This would be a Martha Stewart-like Good Thing, IMHO. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda
On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Greetings collected wisdom. I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so my old kludge of tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. Create a unison in a second layer, tie both notes and kludge one of them. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda
On 26 Feb 2005 at 16:38, Christopher Smith wrote: I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so my old kludge of tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. I don't understand why Ctrl-= wouldn't give you the backward tie., and why a CODA would be different from a 2nd ending. I just checked a file with a 2nd ending that has a tie to the previous measure, as well as a tie to the next note, and it works just fine using Ctrl-=. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda
On 26 Feb 2005, at 4:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 26 Feb 2005 at 16:38, Christopher Smith wrote: I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so my old kludge of tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. I don't understand why Ctrl-= wouldn't give you the backward tie., and why a CODA would be different from a 2nd ending. Well, it is, and there's no good reason for it. For reasons known only to Coda, backwards ties only work on 2nd endings. Chris, you will have to fake it with a manually tweaked slur or other such kludge. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda
On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 26 Feb 2005 at 16:38, Christopher Smith wrote: I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so my old kludge of tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. I don't understand why Ctrl-= wouldn't give you the backward tie., and why a CODA would be different from a 2nd ending. I just checked a file with a 2nd ending that has a tie to the previous measure, as well as a tie to the next note, and it works just fine using Ctrl-=. I don't know why it should be different, either, but it doesn't work in Mac (opt = is the keystroke) unless it is the first note on beat 1 of the first measure of a second ending. Apparently there is some flag or other that is set for second endings, but I don't know why it has to be set. Bug report! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tied note starting a coda
On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 26 Feb 2005, at 4:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 26 Feb 2005 at 16:38, Christopher Smith wrote: I know how to start a second ending with a tied note, but how do I start a coda with a tied note? The note in question is both tied over from the previous measure AND tied to the next measure, so my old kludge of tying it right then editing the tie in Special Tools to go backwards won't work. I don't understand why Ctrl-= wouldn't give you the backward tie., and why a CODA would be different from a 2nd ending. Well, it is, and there's no good reason for it. For reasons known only to Coda, backwards ties only work on 2nd endings. Chris, you will have to fake it with a manually tweaked slur or other such kludge. - Darcy That's what I was afraid of. Actually, while I was waiting (five whole minutes, what took you guys so long?8-) ) I tried this: I took the 2nd tied note of the coda and added a forwards tie to it, going nowhere. I reversed that tie with Special Tool, to go backwards to the first note. I then reversed the tie on the first note to go backwards. Good thing this whole note wasn't tied over 12 measures! I would have had a lot of ties to mess around with! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
