Re: [Finale] a finale challenge (OT)

2005-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Bruce K H Kau wrote: Well, to pick at nits here ... wouldn't all those potatoes print backwards? It's a hidden Finale capabilty to print music which advanced theorists look on as culturally backwards -- other notation programs simply refuse to print it at all, instead printing Hah! Hah! Hah! on

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-05 Thread dhbailey
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 04:22 PM 2/3/05 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: Which version of Finale was it that included stencils for cutting clefs and noteheads out of raw potatoes? Those were the days of real engraving! Alas, we could not keep the engraving set after it was opened:

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:22 PM 2/3/05 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: Which version of Finale was it that included stencils for cutting clefs and noteheads out of raw potatoes? Those were the days of real engraving! Oh, you must mean these: http://maltedmedia.com/photos/maestro-yukon-gold.jpg Dennis

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 4, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 04:22 PM 2/3/05 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: Which version of Finale was it that included stencils for cutting clefs and noteheads out of raw potatoes? Those were the days of real engraving! Oh, you must mean these:

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-04 Thread Daniel Wolf
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 04:22 PM 2/3/05 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: Which version of Finale was it that included stencils for cutting clefs and noteheads out of raw potatoes? Those were the days of real engraving! Oh, you must mean these:

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:22 PM 2/3/05 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: Which version of Finale was it that included stencils for cutting clefs and noteheads out of raw potatoes? Those were the days of real engraving! Alas, we could not keep the engraving set after it was opened:

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge (OT)

2005-02-04 Thread Bruce K H Kau
Well, to pick at nits here ... wouldn't all those potatoes print backwards? So, when did they introduce smart shape vegetables? At 09:48 PM 2/4/2005 -0500, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 04:22 PM 2/3/05 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: Which version of Finale was it that included stencils for cutting

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge (OT)

2005-02-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:26 PM 2/4/05, Bruce K H Kau wrote: Well, to pick at nits here ... wouldn't all those potatoes print backwards? Sure, but I'm printing on the back of transparencies. :) :) So, when did they introduce smart shape vegetables? You should see the carrots. Dennis

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge (OT)

2005-02-04 Thread Carl Dershem
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 06:26 PM 2/4/05, Bruce K H Kau wrote: So, when did they introduce smart shape vegetables? You should see the carrots. Just mind your Peas and Q's cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-03 Thread dhbailey
Don Hart wrote: When we start talking about the good ol' days and our musical equivalents of walking 5 miles to school in a blizzard, I can't help but think of Finale 1.0! Don I heard that Finale 1.0 didn't work in a blizzard. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-03 Thread A-NO-NE Music
dhbailey / 05.2.3 / 05:53 AM wrote: I heard that Finale 1.0 didn't work in a blizzard. It (barely) worked in Boston, on 512k and MacPlus, with crashes, of course. Winter in Boston is pretty windy. My ex-roommate who was from Alaska said you feel less cold in Alaska since you don't have windy

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-03 Thread Daniel Wolf
dhbailey wrote: I heard that Finale 1.0 didn't work in a blizzard. Which version of Finale was it that included stencils for cutting clefs and noteheads out of raw potatoes? Those were the days of real engraving! Daniel Wolf ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-03 Thread Allen Fisher
Uphill, both ways. On 2/3/05 4:53 AM, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Don Hart wrote: When we start talking about the good ol' days and our musical equivalents of walking 5 miles to school in a blizzard, I can't help but think of Finale 1.0! Don I heard that Finale 1.0 didn't

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-03 Thread Don Hart
Not much potential for that problem in Nashville, although when it comes to how southerners drive in the stuff, an inch of snow might as well be a blizzard. Yes, Finale 1.0 had lots of problems. I'd have to say speedy note entry via midi kbd. kept me going. That made getting the notes in the

[Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread jef chippewa
if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this out: http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html wow. maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and visit this guy to invite him into our century? jef (PS okay so the dogsled comment is kind of

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
jef chippewa wrote: maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and visit this guy to invite him into our century? The global warming had the result that large parts of Sweden almost never get any snow nowadays. And if you start looking at the uploads to the Finale

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Richard Yates
if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this out: http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and visit this guy to invite him into our century? I note that the last line on the page says I then

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:28:28 -0800, Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this out: http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and visit this guy to

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
That made my day! Dean On Feb 2, 2005, at 12:00 AM, jef chippewa wrote: if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this out: http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html wow. maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and visit this guy to invite

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo paper. I did have the advantage of a hi-tech electric eraser, which sometimes left holes in the paper when pressed too hard. Talk about another century! Dean On Feb 2,

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Carl Donsbach
Yes. And then there's the semi-transparent vellum, and razor blades. -Carl --On Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:11 AM -0800 Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/2/2005 11:11 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo paper. I did have the advantage of a hi-tech electric eraser, which sometimes left holes in the paper when pressed too hard.

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yes, that's what I meant by Cameo paper. It was an excellent company out of Hollywood, which provided the vellums as well as printing services. I remember averaging 4 pages per day. I also used a nifty little gizmo, the name of which I forget, to write in expressions, etc. It had a tail pin

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Egads, you're correct ... that was the 20th Century. How quickly we forget. Yes, in addition to my composition, I, of course, had to write an analysis of it ... about 40 pages, but it was just text with a few musical examples ... easy by comparison to the score work. Dean On Feb 2, 2005, at

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Don Hart
When we start talking about the good ol' days and our musical equivalents of walking 5 miles to school in a blizzard, I can't help but think of Finale 1.0! Don on 2/2/05 11:06 AM, Carl Donsbach at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. And then there's the semi-transparent vellum, and razor blades.

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Gerald Berg
Nah. That was sophisticated. A cloned Apple II+ with Mountain Computer sound cards and a partially built Syntauri keyboard -- pre midi of course. 20 seconds of music at a time then recorded and spliced together -- that was when work was work! Jerry On 2-Feb-05, at 2:47 PM, Don Hart wrote:

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Don Hart
Touché! Yeah, things weren't really that bad, I guess. I was receiving much more from Finale than I was needing from it. Of course that didn't keep us all from poking, prodding and dreaming, not necessarily in that order, toward a new and improved Finale (still doesn't). Many, many slowww,

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Carl Dershem
jef chippewa wrote: if you ever thought finale was a notational pain in the arse, check this out: http://www.accordionpage.com/hownotation.html wow. maybe someone on the list living in sweden could get on a dogsled and visit this guy to invite him into our century? jef (PS okay so the dogsled

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Carl Dershem
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I can't believe I copied out my entire Master's Thesis (87 pages of a wind ensemble score) by hand, using india ink and Cameo paper. I did have the advantage of a hi-tech electric eraser, which sometimes left holes in the paper when pressed too hard. Talk about another

Re: [Finale] a finale challenge

2005-02-02 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Thanks ... because I could not have afforded to have anyone else do all that work ... although I did have the analysis typed by a professional ... it was either that, or the thing would not have passed muster. Dean On Feb 2, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: I can't