Re: [Finale] Defining for a 'Set' of Notes
Thank you all, I think ’set’ will suit! Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com > On 17 Dec 2018, at 11:08, Giovanni Andreani wrote: > > Pretty strait-forward, I must admit. > > Giovanni > > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.com > www.ga-music.com > > >> On 14 Dec 2018, at 13:56, Christopher Smith >> wrote: >> >> In music theory, the complete set of pitches used is called… (wait for it!)… >> >> a set. >> >> Yup, that’s the official music theory jargon term. Sometimes when other >> items are involved, you have to specify “pitch set”, but that’s all it is. >> >> Christopher >> >> >>> On Dec 14, 2018, at 4:50 AM, Giovanni Andreani >>> wrote: >>> >>> If possible, this question is for those fond of the theoretical aspect of >>> music. Not merely related to Finale, although I thought that this list’s >>> opinion could favour some remarkable responses. >>> How would you define, in a generic way, a set of notes to be used for >>> composing a melody? For example, how could C,D,E,G,A - forming a >>> pentatonic scale - or C,D,E,F,G - forming a major pentachord - or A#,B,C - >>> forming a cromatic trichord - be commonly defined ? I can’t find a >>> satisfying definition: 'melodic structure’ implies aspects more related to >>> the architechture of the composition, ‘series' implies a set of sounds to >>> be taken in a particular order. “Ah! vous dirai-je, maman” is composed >>> using the first six notes of a major scale, thus forming an hexachord, but >>> how would it generally be defined? >>> >>> Giovanni >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Giovanni Andreani >>> >>> www.giovanniandreani.com >>> www.ga-music.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Defining for a 'Set' of Notes
Pretty strait-forward, I must admit. Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com > On 14 Dec 2018, at 13:56, Christopher Smith > wrote: > > In music theory, the complete set of pitches used is called… (wait for it!)… > > a set. > > Yup, that’s the official music theory jargon term. Sometimes when other items > are involved, you have to specify “pitch set”, but that’s all it is. > > Christopher > > >> On Dec 14, 2018, at 4:50 AM, Giovanni Andreani >> wrote: >> >> If possible, this question is for those fond of the theoretical aspect of >> music. Not merely related to Finale, although I thought that this list’s >> opinion could favour some remarkable responses. >> How would you define, in a generic way, a set of notes to be used for >> composing a melody? For example, how could C,D,E,G,A - forming a pentatonic >> scale - or C,D,E,F,G - forming a major pentachord - or A#,B,C - forming a >> cromatic trichord - be commonly defined ? I can’t find a satisfying >> definition: 'melodic structure’ implies aspects more related to the >> architechture of the composition, ‘series' implies a set of sounds to be >> taken in a particular order. “Ah! vous dirai-je, maman” is composed using >> the first six notes of a major scale, thus forming an hexachord, but how >> would it generally be defined? >> >> Giovanni >> >> >> >> >> Giovanni Andreani >> >> www.giovanniandreani.com >> www.ga-music.com >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Defining for a 'Set' of Notes
In music theory, the complete set of pitches used is called… (wait for it!)… a set. Yup, that’s the official music theory jargon term. Sometimes when other items are involved, you have to specify “pitch set”, but that’s all it is. Christopher > On Dec 14, 2018, at 4:50 AM, Giovanni Andreani > wrote: > > If possible, this question is for those fond of the theoretical aspect of > music. Not merely related to Finale, although I thought that this list’s > opinion could favour some remarkable responses. > How would you define, in a generic way, a set of notes to be used for > composing a melody? For example, how could C,D,E,G,A - forming a pentatonic > scale - or C,D,E,F,G - forming a major pentachord - or A#,B,C - forming a > cromatic trichord - be commonly defined ? I can’t find a satisfying > definition: 'melodic structure’ implies aspects more related to the > architechture of the composition, ‘series' implies a set of sounds to be > taken in a particular order. “Ah! vous dirai-je, maman” is composed using the > first six notes of a major scale, thus forming an hexachord, but how would it > generally be defined? > > Giovanni > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.com > www.ga-music.com > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Defining for a 'Set' of Notes
‘Melodic Material’ is indeed what would be used in Italian too; it makes sense and that’s what the matter is about, nevertheless there may be an alternative term. I’ll be using many of them to indicate the sets of notes - ahead of a series of melodies to be sung (and from where the melodies are composed), on which to practice by improvising short motifs. Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com > On 14 Dec 2018, at 11:46, David H. Bailey wrote: > > On 12/14/2018 4:50 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: >> If possible, this question is for those fond of the theoretical aspect of >> music. Not merely related to Finale, although I thought that this list’s >> opinion could favour some remarkable responses. >> How would you define, in a generic way, a set of notes to be used for >> composing a melody? For example, how could C,D,E,G,A - forming a pentatonic >> scale - or C,D,E,F,G - forming a major pentachord - or A#,B,C - forming a >> cromatic trichord - be commonly defined ? I can’t find a satisfying >> definition: 'melodic structure’ implies aspects more related to the >> architechture of the composition, ‘series' implies a set of sounds to be >> taken in a particular order. “Ah! vous dirai-je, maman” is composed using >> the first six notes of a major scale, thus forming an hexachord, but how >> would it generally be defined? > > > Possibly "melodic material." But that gives no real idea about what's > included other than to indicate that the set of notes is what the melody is > built from. If that's what you're looking for, I guess it would work. > > To what use to you hope to put whatever you decide is the best suggestion? > > > -- > * > David H. Bailey > dhbaile...@comcast.net > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Defining for a 'Set' of Notes
On 12/14/2018 4:50 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote: If possible, this question is for those fond of the theoretical aspect of music. Not merely related to Finale, although I thought that this list’s opinion could favour some remarkable responses. How would you define, in a generic way, a set of notes to be used for composing a melody? For example, how could C,D,E,G,A - forming a pentatonic scale - or C,D,E,F,G - forming a major pentachord - or A#,B,C - forming a cromatic trichord - be commonly defined ? I can’t find a satisfying definition: 'melodic structure’ implies aspects more related to the architechture of the composition, ‘series' implies a set of sounds to be taken in a particular order. “Ah! vous dirai-je, maman” is composed using the first six notes of a major scale, thus forming an hexachord, but how would it generally be defined? Possibly "melodic material." But that gives no real idea about what's included other than to indicate that the set of notes is what the melody is built from. If that's what you're looking for, I guess it would work. To what use to you hope to put whatever you decide is the best suggestion? -- * David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Defining for a 'Set' of Notes
If possible, this question is for those fond of the theoretical aspect of music. Not merely related to Finale, although I thought that this list’s opinion could favour some remarkable responses. How would you define, in a generic way, a set of notes to be used for composing a melody? For example, how could C,D,E,G,A - forming a pentatonic scale - or C,D,E,F,G - forming a major pentachord - or A#,B,C - forming a cromatic trichord - be commonly defined ? I can’t find a satisfying definition: 'melodic structure’ implies aspects more related to the architechture of the composition, ‘series' implies a set of sounds to be taken in a particular order. “Ah! vous dirai-je, maman” is composed using the first six notes of a major scale, thus forming an hexachord, but how would it generally be defined? Giovanni Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu