Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
On 12 Dec 2008, at 02:36, Allen Fisher wrote: For example, add the tpt solo to the Technique Text group. Down at the bottom of the selection dialog, note the assign button click the little pop-up menu next to it. Create a new assignment list with the staves. Assign to the score Select all of the expressions in question hit the keystroke for unlink in all parts hit the keystroke for show The step Select all of the expressions in question isn't necessary, at least on Mac: when I use an assignment list to enter an expression on several staves, all copies of the expression are already selected. If the assignment list exists already, the routine is: Double-click in score Select expression Choose assignment list hit the keystroke for unlink in all parts hit the keystroke for show/hide Compared with the old method, if the staff list exists already: Double-click in score Select expression Make sure that Measure expression is checked Click on Select Choose Staff List Click on Select Of course it means changing habits, but once the habits are changed, the new method is no slower than the old one. Note that when the assignment lists is selected, you are immediately returned to the score with the expression selected: no need for an extra click on select (or press of return). Moreover, with drag-apply and option (or control) + down/up arrow you can, in most situations, enter expressions even faster than with assignment lists. Michael ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
If you want to do this, use one of the techniques Allen describes. It'll mean a change of habit, but once you get used to it you'll find it's just as fast as the old method. In some situations (assigning an expression to a group of contiguous staves, for instance), it's faster. I prefer to abide by this rule of engraving: the conductor should see in the score exactly what the player sees in the part, unless there is a very, very good reason to do otherwise. You said you used to be able to name the lists: this criticism was addressed in the update. Since 2009a it is possible to name score lists. Michael On 11 Dec 2008, at 23:28, Christopher Smith wrote: I can think of something right now that would need more score lists. I use one for tempo marks, right out of the default settings. For the others, I can easily run through seven sets of expressions that I need in the parts but not the score, like a notation saying tpt solo on the parts that are not the trumpet, and a notation saying Alto Sax solo on the parts that are not the alto, and various notations like (bass) when it enters, or (voice) when it enters, that don't need to be on the score because the conductor HAS all the instruments in view and can see easily who is entering and to have it would be cluttered, but the musicians need the text on the parts. As it is, I would have to add the text into each part, hide it with the override key, then show it without the override key, a multi- step process that adds to the time required considerably. A score list (formerly staff list makes this task much easier, plus I used to able to NAME the lists to keep track of them! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
You're right. Stupid accidental trackpad click. On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Florence + Michael wrote: On 12 Dec 2008, at 02:36, Allen Fisher wrote: For example, add the tpt solo to the Technique Text group. Down at the bottom of the selection dialog, note the assign button click the little pop-up menu next to it. Create a new assignment list with the staves. Assign to the score Select all of the expressions in question hit the keystroke for unlink in all parts hit the keystroke for show The step Select all of the expressions in question isn't necessary, at least on Mac: when I use an assignment list to enter an expression on several staves, all copies of the expression are already selected. If the assignment list exists already, the routine is: Double-click in score Select expression Choose assignment list hit the keystroke for unlink in all parts hit the keystroke for show/hide Compared with the old method, if the staff list exists already: Double-click in score Select expression Make sure that Measure expression is checked Click on Select Choose Staff List Click on Select Of course it means changing habits, but once the habits are changed, the new method is no slower than the old one. Note that when the assignment lists is selected, you are immediately returned to the score with the expression selected: no need for an extra click on select (or press of return). Moreover, with drag-apply and option (or control) + down/up arrow you can, in most situations, enter expressions even faster than with assignment lists. Michael ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
Hi Ray, Finale 2009b been available since Nov. 5. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 11 Dec 2008, at 12:17 PM, Ray Horton wrote: What’s New in Finale 2009b for Macintosh® OS X Windows® Finale 2009b is a free maintenance update available to Finale 2009 registered users. The following new features and fixes apply to both Macintosh and Windows unless otherwise noted. It also includes the new features and fixes documented below that were released in Finale 2009a. Full Read Me documentation with more information on fixes in the initial release of Finale 2009 is included in the updater download. New Features in Finale 2009a • Staff Assignment Lists for Expressions. Apply dynamics and other expressions to multiple staves simultaneously using Finale's new Assignment Lists. • Expression Assignment Shortcuts. Finale now includes several additional shortcuts for expression assignment. For example, select an expression and press Ctrl-up/down arrow to add the expression to adjacent staves. • Layer Assignment Improvements for Expressions. In measures with multiple layers, you can now assign expressions to the active layer or all layers using a new option under the Expression Menu. You can now apply layer colors to expressions by checking Layer Colors Apply To All Layer Items in Program Options- Display Colors. • Improved Category Designer. The Music Font and all positioning options are now available for all categories. • Expanded Score Lists. The number of Score Lists (previously called “Staff Lists”) has been increased from 4 to 8. • Score Lists can now be renamed in the Score List dialog box. • Maintain Expression Attachment when Dragging/Nudging. This new option, in Program Options-Edit, allows you to lock an expression's attachment point while dragging or nudging without using a modifier key. • Improved SmartScore Lite Scanning with support for triplet recognition and improved results while scanning polyphonic music. • Improved MusicXML. Finale’s updated MusicXML capabilities include enhanced recognition of chord symbols and fretboards. • Graphic Export Settings are now preserved between Finale sessions. • Ambience Reverb. Customize the room size, delay, and many other settings to finetune the reverb effect of playback. (Macintosh only) • Clearing Staff Styles is Now Easier. With the Staff Tool selected, pressing the Clear key now clears any existing Staff Styles in the selected region. (Press Clear twice to clear the music.) (Macintosh only) • Clearing Staff Styles is Now Easier. With the Staff Tool selected, pressing the Backspace key now clears any existing Staff Styles in the selected region. (Press Backspace twice to delete the music.) (Windows only) • Improved Cross-Platform Font Handling. Finale now offers the option to reset the list of recognized symbol fonts, or update the document based on Finale's list of symbol fonts. • Show Items Attached to Notes is now available for all Alternate Notation Styles in the Alternate Notation dialog box. • Windows Vista Manifest File. The appearance of Finale’s interface in Windows Vista has improved. (Windows only) Fixes in Finale 2009b EPS Graphics • Ties are now included in exported EPS files. Expressions • In measures with multiple layers, expressions on beat 1 no longer base their positioning and scaling on the incorrect layer. • Right and center justified expressions are no longer justified incorrectly when attached to reduced or enlarged entries. Fixes in Finale 2009a Articulations • Articulations in some files are no longer placed inappropriately (too close to the note). • Articulations over rests are no longer off-centered (too far to the left). • Rolled chord articulations no longer cause crashes during playback in certain files. (Windows only) • Typing a symbol in the Symbol Selection dialog box now highlights the corresponding slot. (Macintosh only) Copying • Copying non-stack regions that contain voices no longer inserts unwanted rests. Document Options • Include Seconds in Time Stamp is now checked in Document Options- Text. (Macintosh only) • The Note Shapes characters in Document Options-Notes and Rests are no longer set to numbers. Document Styles • The Left Page Margin of the General – Copyist Document Style is no longer at .5 inch, forcing the staff names off the page. (Windows only) Edit Menu • Deleting a shape in the Shape Selection dialog box does now creates an undo transaction. Expressions • Hidden expressions in old files no longer lose their hidden status when opened in Finale 2009. • Deleting text out of a custom Smart Shape no longer deletes Expressions in some files. • The font selection list in the Expression Tool’s text editor no longer lists Maestro Times Bold instead of Maestro Times. (Windows only) • Note Expressions in old files on one-bar repeat measures now appear when opened in Finale 2009.
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
I think the alert from the app just started getting tripped. On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Ray, Finale 2009b been available since Nov. 5. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 11 Dec 2008, at 12:17 PM, Ray Horton wrote: What’s New in Finale 2009b for Macintosh® OS X Windows® Finale 2009b is a free maintenance update available to Finale 2009 registered users. The following new features and fixes apply to both Macintosh and Windows unless otherwise noted. It also includes the new features and fixes documented below that were released in Finale 2009a. Full Read Me documentation with more information on fixes in the initial release of Finale 2009 is included in the updater download. New Features in Finale 2009a • Staff Assignment Lists for Expressions. Apply dynamics and other expressions to multiple staves simultaneously using Finale's new Assignment Lists. • Expression Assignment Shortcuts. Finale now includes several additional shortcuts for expression assignment. For example, select an expression and press Ctrl-up/down arrow to add the expression to adjacent staves. • Layer Assignment Improvements for Expressions. In measures with multiple layers, you can now assign expressions to the active layer or all layers using a new option under the Expression Menu. You can now apply layer colors to expressions by checking Layer Colors Apply To All Layer Items in Program Options- Display Colors. • Improved Category Designer. The Music Font and all positioning options are now available for all categories. • Expanded Score Lists. The number of Score Lists (previously called “Staff Lists”) has been increased from 4 to 8. • Score Lists can now be renamed in the Score List dialog box. • Maintain Expression Attachment when Dragging/Nudging. This new option, in Program Options-Edit, allows you to lock an expression's attachment point while dragging or nudging without using a modifier key. • Improved SmartScore Lite Scanning with support for triplet recognition and improved results while scanning polyphonic music. • Improved MusicXML. Finale’s updated MusicXML capabilities include enhanced recognition of chord symbols and fretboards. • Graphic Export Settings are now preserved between Finale sessions. • Ambience Reverb. Customize the room size, delay, and many other settings to finetune the reverb effect of playback. (Macintosh only) • Clearing Staff Styles is Now Easier. With the Staff Tool selected, pressing the Clear key now clears any existing Staff Styles in the selected region. (Press Clear twice to clear the music.) (Macintosh only) • Clearing Staff Styles is Now Easier. With the Staff Tool selected, pressing the Backspace key now clears any existing Staff Styles in the selected region. (Press Backspace twice to delete the music.) (Windows only) • Improved Cross-Platform Font Handling. Finale now offers the option to reset the list of recognized symbol fonts, or update the document based on Finale's list of symbol fonts. • Show Items Attached to Notes is now available for all Alternate Notation Styles in the Alternate Notation dialog box. • Windows Vista Manifest File. The appearance of Finale’s interface in Windows Vista has improved. (Windows only) Fixes in Finale 2009b EPS Graphics • Ties are now included in exported EPS files. Expressions • In measures with multiple layers, expressions on beat 1 no longer base their positioning and scaling on the incorrect layer. • Right and center justified expressions are no longer justified incorrectly when attached to reduced or enlarged entries. Fixes in Finale 2009a Articulations • Articulations in some files are no longer placed inappropriately (too close to the note). • Articulations over rests are no longer off-centered (too far to the left). • Rolled chord articulations no longer cause crashes during playback in certain files. (Windows only) • Typing a symbol in the Symbol Selection dialog box now highlights the corresponding slot. (Macintosh only) Copying • Copying non-stack regions that contain voices no longer inserts unwanted rests. Document Options • Include Seconds in Time Stamp is now checked in Document Options- Text. (Macintosh only) • The Note Shapes characters in Document Options-Notes and Rests are no longer set to numbers. Document Styles • The Left Page Margin of the General – Copyist Document Style is no longer at .5 inch, forcing the staff names off the page. (Windows only) Edit Menu • Deleting a shape in the Shape Selection dialog box does now creates an undo transaction. Expressions • Hidden expressions in old files no longer lose their hidden status when opened in Finale 2009. • Deleting text out of a custom Smart Shape no longer deletes Expressions in some files. • The font selection list in the Expression Tool’s text editor no longer lists Maestro Times Bold instead of Maestro
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
Hmm, I may remember reading that, now. How come my Finale only told me that, today? I use it every day. Maybe I have it set to check only periodically. Well, anyway - _I_ needed a reminder! Looks like a good update, if it all works. RBH Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Ray, Finale 2009b been available since Nov. 5. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 11 Dec 2008, at 12:17 PM, Ray Horton wrote: What’s New in Finale 2009b for Macintosh® OS X Windows® Finale 2009b is a free maintenance update available to Finale 2009 registered users. The following new features and fixes apply to both Macintosh and Windows unless otherwise noted. It also includes the new features and fixes documented below that were released in Finale 2009a. Full Read Me documentation with more information on fixes in the initial release of Finale 2009 is included in the updater download. New Features in Finale 2009a • Staff Assignment Lists for Expressions. Apply dynamics and other expressions to multiple staves simultaneously using Finale's new Assignment Lists. • Expression Assignment Shortcuts. Finale now includes several additional shortcuts for expression assignment. For example, select an expression and press Ctrl-up/down arrow to add the expression to adjacent staves. • Layer Assignment Improvements for Expressions. In measures with multiple layers, you can now assign expressions to the active layer or all layers using a new option under the Expression Menu. You can now apply layer colors to expressions by checking Layer Colors Apply To All Layer Items in Program Options-Display Colors. • Improved Category Designer. The Music Font and all positioning options are now available for all categories. • Expanded Score Lists. The number of Score Lists (previously called “Staff Lists”) has been increased from 4 to 8. • Score Lists can now be renamed in the Score List dialog box. • Maintain Expression Attachment when Dragging/Nudging. This new option, in Program Options-Edit, allows you to lock an expression's attachment point while dragging or nudging without using a modifier key. • Improved SmartScore Lite Scanning with support for triplet recognition and improved results while scanning polyphonic music. • Improved MusicXML. Finale’s updated MusicXML capabilities include enhanced recognition of chord symbols and fretboards. • Graphic Export Settings are now preserved between Finale sessions. • Ambience Reverb. Customize the room size, delay, and many other settings to finetune the reverb effect of playback. (Macintosh only) • Clearing Staff Styles is Now Easier. With the Staff Tool selected, pressing the Clear key now clears any existing Staff Styles in the selected region. (Press Clear twice to clear the music.) (Macintosh only) • Clearing Staff Styles is Now Easier. With the Staff Tool selected, pressing the Backspace key now clears any existing Staff Styles in the selected region. (Press Backspace twice to delete the music.) (Windows only) • Improved Cross-Platform Font Handling. Finale now offers the option to reset the list of recognized symbol fonts, or update the document based on Finale's list of symbol fonts. • Show Items Attached to Notes is now available for all Alternate Notation Styles in the Alternate Notation dialog box. • Windows Vista Manifest File. The appearance of Finale’s interface in Windows Vista has improved. (Windows only) Fixes in Finale 2009b EPS Graphics • Ties are now included in exported EPS files. Expressions • In measures with multiple layers, expressions on beat 1 no longer base their positioning and scaling on the incorrect layer. • Right and center justified expressions are no longer justified incorrectly when attached to reduced or enlarged entries. Fixes in Finale 2009a Articulations • Articulations in some files are no longer placed inappropriately (too close to the note). • Articulations over rests are no longer off-centered (too far to the left). • Rolled chord articulations no longer cause crashes during playback in certain files. (Windows only) • Typing a symbol in the Symbol Selection dialog box now highlights the corresponding slot. (Macintosh only) Copying • Copying non-stack regions that contain voices no longer inserts unwanted rests. Document Options • Include Seconds in Time Stamp is now checked in Document Options-Text. (Macintosh only) • The Note Shapes characters in Document Options-Notes and Rests are no longer set to numbers. Document Styles • The Left Page Margin of the General – Copyist Document Style is no longer at .5 inch, forcing the staff names off the page. (Windows only) Edit Menu • Deleting a shape in the Shape Selection dialog box does now creates an undo transaction. Expressions • Hidden expressions in old files no longer lose their hidden status when opened in Finale 2009. • Deleting text out of a custom Smart Shape no longer deletes Expressions in some files. • The font
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
Ah RBH Allen Fisher wrote: I think the alert from the app just started getting tripped. On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Ray, Finale 2009b been available since Nov. 5. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 11 Dec 2008, at 12:17 PM, Ray Horton wrote: ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
That is a good question.though I think 2 weeks ago I got a notice from Sibelius that a new version was out, but I had already (don't remember when) downloaded and installed it.. On the flip side, AudioEase sent out emails about a new version of Altiverb pretty much the day it was released..soI dunno. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Ray Horton rayhor...@insightbb.com wrote: Hmm, I may remember reading that, now. How come my Finale only told me that, today? I use it every day. Maybe I have it set to check only periodically. Well, anyway - _I_ needed a reminder! Looks like a good update, if it all works. RBH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
Ray Horton wrote: What’s New in Finale 2009b for Macintosh® OS X Windows® Finale 2009b is a free maintenance update available to Finale 2009 registered users. The following new features and fixes apply to both Macintosh and Windows unless otherwise noted. It also includes the new features and fixes documented below that were released in Finale 2009a. Full Read Me documentation with more information on fixes in the initial release of Finale 2009 is included in the updater download. New Features in Finale 2009a • Expanded Score Lists. The number of Score Lists (previously called “Staff Lists”) has been increased from 4 to 8. Nope. Still not enough for the type of music I do. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
Barbara, could you explain exactly in what situations you need more than 8 score lists? Michael On 11 Dec 2008, at 21:27, Barbara Touburg wrote: • Expanded Score Lists. The number of Score Lists (previously called “Staff Lists”) has been increased from 4 to 8. Nope. Still not enough for the type of music I do. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
Florence + Michael wrote: Barbara, could you explain exactly in what situations you need more than 8 score lists? Michael For example a large symphonic piece with singers (f.e. Beethoven 9 [not that I've done that particular one!]), where I have all movements in one file (to make the lay-out of the parts easier). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
I'm sorry, I don't understand: why would you need so many score lists for Beethoven's 9th? Michael On 11 Dec 2008, at 22:02, Barbara Touburg wrote: Florence + Michael wrote: Barbara, could you explain exactly in what situations you need more than 8 score lists? Michael For example a large symphonic piece with singers (f.e. Beethoven 9 [not that I've done that particular one!]), where I have all movements in one file (to make the lay-out of the parts easier). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
Florence + Michael wrote: I'm sorry, I don't understand: why would you need so many score lists for Beethoven's 9th? Michael I think I understand the mix-up. My fault entirely. I meant staff lists of course. Can't remember what score lists used to be called, I think they were staff sets, right? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
For expressions, we now have: - Score Lists (formerly staff lists) which are useful for situations where expressions are assigned differently in score and in parts (for example, tempo markings that will probably appear in the score only over the top staff and the 1. Violin staff, but will show in every part). Their number is limited to 8. - Expression Assignment Lists (new feature in 2009a), which are useful for putting in expressions in multiple staves at the same time, if you have a lot of situations where you need to add a dynamic or other expression to exactly the same set of staves. These are unlimited in number. Staff Sets have not changed: they are used in Scroll View to view only certain staves, so that (for instance) you can concentrate on just the voice parts, or look at the woodwind and string parts only. They are (as before) limited to 8 in number. Michael On 11 Dec 2008, at 22:30, Barbara Touburg wrote: Florence + Michael wrote: I'm sorry, I don't understand: why would you need so many score lists for Beethoven's 9th? Michael I think I understand the mix-up. My fault entirely. I meant staff lists of course. Can't remember what score lists used to be called, I think they were staff sets, right? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
I can think of something right now that would need more score lists. I use one for tempo marks, right out of the default settings. For the others, I can easily run through seven sets of expressions that I need in the parts but not the score, like a notation saying tpt solo on the parts that are not the trumpet, and a notation saying Alto Sax solo on the parts that are not the alto, and various notations like (bass) when it enters, or (voice) when it enters, that don't need to be on the score because the conductor HAS all the instruments in view and can see easily who is entering and to have it would be cluttered, but the musicians need the text on the parts. As it is, I would have to add the text into each part, hide it with the override key, then show it without the override key, a multi-step process that adds to the time required considerably. A score list (formerly staff list makes this task much easier, plus I used to able to NAME the lists to keep track of them! Christopher On 11-Dec-08, at 11-Dec-08 4:56 PM, Florence + Michael wrote: For expressions, we now have: - Score Lists (formerly staff lists) which are useful for situations where expressions are assigned differently in score and in parts (for example, tempo markings that will probably appear in the score only over the top staff and the 1. Violin staff, but will show in every part). Their number is limited to 8. - Expression Assignment Lists (new feature in 2009a), which are useful for putting in expressions in multiple staves at the same time, if you have a lot of situations where you need to add a dynamic or other expression to exactly the same set of staves. These are unlimited in number. Staff Sets have not changed: they are used in Scroll View to view only certain staves, so that (for instance) you can concentrate on just the voice parts, or look at the woodwind and string parts only. They are (as before) limited to 8 in number. Michael On 11 Dec 2008, at 22:30, Barbara Touburg wrote: Florence + Michael wrote: I'm sorry, I don't understand: why would you need so many score lists for Beethoven's 9th? Michael I think I understand the mix-up. My fault entirely. I meant staff lists of course. Can't remember what score lists used to be called, I think they were staff sets, right? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2009B available
This can be accomplished a couple of different ways with the new staff assignment functionality: For example, add the tpt solo to the Technique Text group. Down at the bottom of the selection dialog, note the assign button click the little pop-up menu next to it. Create a new assignment list with the staves. Assign to the score Select all of the expressions in question hit the keystroke for unlink in all parts hit the keystroke for show You also now have a way to quickly assign to a bunch of contiguous staves. Add an expression to one staff, hold down option (ctrl on windows) and hit the down arrow (or up arrow) to continually add the expression to the next staff. The advantage to this is that they all remain selected and you can quickly unlink them and then hide them in the score via keystrokes. On Dec 11, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I can think of something right now that would need more score lists. I use one for tempo marks, right out of the default settings. For the others, I can easily run through seven sets of expressions that I need in the parts but not the score, like a notation saying tpt solo on the parts that are not the trumpet, and a notation saying Alto Sax solo on the parts that are not the alto, and various notations like (bass) when it enters, or (voice) when it enters, that don't need to be on the score because the conductor HAS all the instruments in view and can see easily who is entering and to have it would be cluttered, but the musicians need the text on the parts. As it is, I would have to add the text into each part, hide it with the override key, then show it without the override key, a multi- step process that adds to the time required considerably. A score list (formerly staff list makes this task much easier, plus I used to able to NAME the lists to keep track of them! Christopher On 11-Dec-08, at 11-Dec-08 4:56 PM, Florence + Michael wrote: For expressions, we now have: - Score Lists (formerly staff lists) which are useful for situations where expressions are assigned differently in score and in parts (for example, tempo markings that will probably appear in the score only over the top staff and the 1. Violin staff, but will show in every part). Their number is limited to 8. - Expression Assignment Lists (new feature in 2009a), which are useful for putting in expressions in multiple staves at the same time, if you have a lot of situations where you need to add a dynamic or other expression to exactly the same set of staves. These are unlimited in number. Staff Sets have not changed: they are used in Scroll View to view only certain staves, so that (for instance) you can concentrate on just the voice parts, or look at the woodwind and string parts only. They are (as before) limited to 8 in number. Michael On 11 Dec 2008, at 22:30, Barbara Touburg wrote: Florence + Michael wrote: I'm sorry, I don't understand: why would you need so many score lists for Beethoven's 9th? Michael I think I understand the mix-up. My fault entirely. I meant staff lists of course. Can't remember what score lists used to be called, I think they were staff sets, right? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
