[ Please forgive me if the tone is a little harsh; I'm stuck in front of
a Windoze box for the moment... ]
Sure you can think of scenarios where someone might want the X
libraries installed and not the X server, but these are largely
artificial.
Erm, what?! I have at least 20 servers, of
Ther are a couple of different possiblities for where we pay...
at the moment we save 4MB on the default install. This is not as trivial as
people make out - my 6GB drive is generally full, and I actively look at
anything over 1MB to see if I can get rid of it. Add to that the time to
download
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:09 AM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
Ther are a couple of different possiblities for where we pay...
at the moment we save 4MB on the default install. This is not as
trivial as
people make out - my 6GB drive is generally full, and I actively look
at
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Ben Hines wrote:
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 10:56 AM, Jeff Whitaker wrote:
I argue for leaving it as is. We indeed have had this discussion
before,
and the conclusion was that since there are lots of ways to use X11
apps
without having xfree86-rootless
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 02:42 AM, Ben Hines wrote:
The current situation causes a LOT of confusion for newbies. And for
what - to save 4 megs of hard drive space. Thats silly.
I agree, saving 4 megs out of 45 isn't really worth the amount of
questions we get on the subject.
No
To reiterate the point that both Martin and I made earlier (to avoid
potential confusion when people search the list archives), and just
mentioned today on the OroborOSX list, too: OroborOSX requires you to
have _all_ of XFree86. Its private XDarwin is just a replacement for
XDarwin.app.
On
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:12 AM, jeff whitaker wrote:
Ben: Look at the archives - I wasn't just agreeing with myself. Jeez, I
never thought I'd get so much grief for expressing an opinion. Anyway,
since I'm clearly in the minority here's what I propose to do.
Nevermind me, i just
I think this has been discussed before, but it has come up again a lot
lately:
Many (most) packages that need to run under X11 have a dependency on
the virtual package x11. This is not enough to make them work.
The x11 virtual package is provided by the xfree86-base package. The
problem with
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin Either the Provides: x11 has to be shifted from *-base to
Martin *-rootless, or the packages that really need X11 windows and not just
Martin some of the libraries, must depend on something else, maybe another
Martin virtual package
Jeff Whitaker wrote:
Why force people to install xfree86-rootless if they
don't really need to?
Because is solves real, multi-hour problems. The cost is very
marginal: systems that need x-base and not x servers and their
price is only a few minutes of install time. The disk space is
only
David wrote:
please keep in mind, that this is a VERY important decision. As the
documentation maintainer I will have to make sure that every reference
to X11 is then changed to the new name and that consistency is provided
throughout the whole documentation.
What the documentation
Bruce Korb wrote:
Jeff Whitaker wrote:
Why force people to install xfree86-rootless if they
don't really need to?
Because is solves real, multi-hour problems. The cost is very
marginal: systems that need x-base and not x servers and their
price is only a few minutes of install time. The
David == David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about x11-server?
David Hello guys,
David please keep in mind, that this is a VERY important decision. As the
David documentation maintainer I will have to make sure that every reference
David to X11 is then changed to the new name
No,
On 6 Jan 2003, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
David == David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Hello guys,
David please keep in mind, that this is a VERY important decision. As the
David documentation maintainer I will have to make sure that every reference
David to X11 is then changed to the new
At 9:25 PM +0100 1/6/03, Martin Costabel wrote:
Bruce Korb wrote:
Jeff Whitaker wrote:
Why force people to install xfree86-rootless if they
don't really need to?
Because is solves real, multi-hour problems. The cost is very
marginal: systems that need x-base and not x servers and their
On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 05:13 PM, Torrey Lyons wrote:
I haven't been lurking on fink-devel long enough to have insight into
what the earlier debates on this were, but I have always found it
strange that fink still separates the server from rest of XFree86.
Sure you can think of
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