Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Ben Abbott wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, now I'm confused.  On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash  - hm, a separate copy, actually -  and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Ben Abbott
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem didn't show up until SL.

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: I don't know how you do this, but it's not what I get on Leopard. Are you sure you aren't running Tiger? Yes, it's Leopard. Specifically, as I said in my earlier message, 10.5.8. Or do you set or unset the environment

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Ben Abbott
On Tuesday, September 01, 2009, at 10:29AM, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Martin Costabel
Ben Abbott wrote: [] On Snow Leopard ... sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' -n asdf sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' asdfsh-3.2$ OK, so this is still the same as on Leopard. What has changed is the behavior of TeXShop, it seems to me. It doesn't

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-09-01 Thread Ben Abbott
On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: [] On Snow Leopard ... sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' -n asdf sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' asdfsh-3.2$ OK, so this is still the same as on Leopard.

[Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted all Fink's .la files and have rebuilt the packages when the missing files were needed when running an update-all. All went rather well. Now I'm having trouble with tetex. With the simple latex document ...

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Costabel
Ben Abbott wrote: I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted [] Default Command: Latex Default Script: Tex + DVI Tex: altpdflatex Latex: altpdflatex Contemporary versions of tex use simpdftex instead of altpdftex, whose development stopped ca 2002. When I

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Mark J. Reed
More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires would seem to be an oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows echo -n. Does the builtin echo in sh have any way to suppress a newline? Maybe the venerable \c? On 8/31/09, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: I

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
On 8/31/09, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted [] Default Command: Latex Default Script: Tex + DVI Tex: altpdflatex Latex: altpdflatex Contemporary versions of tex use simpdftex instead of

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Costabel
Mark J. Reed wrote: More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires would seem to be an oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows echo -n. Yes, that's what I mean. Back in the early days of Leopard, when people complained about the missing -n in sh's echo, Apple said it is because of

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
On Aug 31, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires would seem to be an oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows echo -n. Yes, that's what I mean. Back in the early days of Leopard, when people complained about

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Ben Abbott
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash -

Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me

2009-08-31 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash