Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-10 Thread Alexander Peshkov
В Сб., 10/03/2012 в 12:48 +0100, Dimitry Sibiryakov пишет: > 10.03.2012 12:08, Alexander Peshkov wrote: > > in a form as server sees them > >BTW, I strongly believe that when the doc writer typed it "as server sees > it", (s)he > mean only drive letter and patch, but not encoding. Particular

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-10 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
10.03.2012 12:08, Alexander Peshkov wrote: > in a form as server sees them BTW, I strongly believe that when the doc writer typed it "as server sees it", (s)he mean only drive letter and patch, but not encoding. Particularly because native English speakers used to have no idea about encodin

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-10 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
10.03.2012 12:08, Alexander Peshkov wrote: > But should same conversions be applied to SPB, provided > that file names must be provided by client already in a form as server > sees them? Of course it should. Just because server can have different ANSI codepage. In this case client physically

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-10 Thread Alexander Peshkov
В Ср., 07/03/2012 в 18:32 +0100, Dimitry Sibiryakov пишет: > 07.03.2012 16:41, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > > Therefore the question > > is - does server-side encoding also fit in to that 'as_server_ can see it'? > >I would say that if you use unicode routines for file I/O you won't miss. > No pr

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-07 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
07.03.2012 16:41, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > Therefore the question > is - does server-side encoding also fit in to that 'as_server_ can see it'? I would say that if you use unicode routines for file I/O you won't miss. -- SY, SD. -

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-07 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/01/12 20:48, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > So, the password (and all other data) is converted if > isc_dpb_utf8_filename is not used. This may have bugs, specially in the > services mode, I'd say. When converting strings in DPB to UTF8, we touch not only password but a number of o

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-04 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/02/12 20:03, Björn Reimer wrote: > Hello > > Will it be possible to use more than 8 digits for a username from fb 3.0 > without writing an own plugin? > You may use up to 31 characters with any FB version. 8 chars was password limit. --

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-02 Thread Björn Reimer
Hello Will it be possible to use more than 8 digits for a username from fb 3.0 without writing an own plugin? -- Björn Reimer - RRZE -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-02 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/01/12 21:09, Dalton Calford wrote: > Quick Question in regards to passwords and user names in general, > > Has the max length of User names, Passwords and System objects been > increased in FB3? > Password's length was increased, currently it's efficient length is 20 bytes (longer passwords

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/01/12 20:48, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 01/03/2012 13:39, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> On 01/03/2012 13:26, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: >>> 01.03.2012 17:17, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: I understand a problem, but please talk about the solution you're

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Dalton Calford
Quick Question in regards to passwords and user names in general, Has the max length of User names, Passwords and System objects been increased in FB3? With a 31 Char limit and UTF8 some users can be severely limited in their use of FB unless the limits are increased substantially. regards Dalt

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 01/03/2012 13:39, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 01/03/2012 13:26, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: >> 01.03.2012 17:17, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >>> I understand a problem, but please talk about the solution you're >>> proposing. What is the moment(s) a password should be converte

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/01/12 20:17, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > On 01/03/2012 12:29, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > >> Because password encryption method is going to be changed in 3.0, isn't >> it too late to >> suggest to convert password into UTF-8 before encryption? >> Imagine two user environme

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 01/03/2012 13:26, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 01.03.2012 17:17, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: >> I understand a problem, but please talk about the solution you're >> proposing. What is the moment(s) a password should be converted, and >> from what to UTF8? > Sorry, but I don't have a s

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
01.03.2012 17:17, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: > I understand a problem, but please talk about the solution you're > proposing. What is the moment(s) a password should be converted, and > from what to UTF8? Sorry, but I don't have a solution for this problem. I would say that password m

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Adriano dos Santos Fernandes
On 01/03/2012 12:29, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > Because password encryption method is going to be changed in 3.0, isn't > it too late to > suggest to convert password into UTF-8 before encryption? > Imagine two user environments on Linux, one has locale win1251 and > another utf-8. > Pa

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
01.03.2012 16:55, Dalton Calford wrote: > Why not have all password connections use a single default encoding > regardless of the > overall codepage that is in use? The problem is not in the password itself, but in typing it on keyboard. -- SY, SD. ---

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Dalton Calford
Why not have all password connections use a single default encoding regardless of the overall codepage that is in use? Select a codepage, make it the password default, have the client libraries understand this and you are no longer worried about differences in client code pages. On 1 March 2012

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/01/12 19:29, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: > 01.03.2012 16:27, Alex Peshkoff wrote: >> That's nightmare:-) >> But something like KOI-8 is quite possible. >Even more possible win1251 in Windows GUI vs cp866 in console. Yes. Absolutely correct. --

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
01.03.2012 16:27, Alex Peshkoff wrote: > That's nightmare:-) > But something like KOI-8 is quite possible. Even more possible win1251 in Windows GUI vs cp866 in console. -- SY, SD. -- Virtualization & Cloud Manage

Re: [Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Alex Peshkoff
On 03/01/12 19:07, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: >Hello, All. > >Because password encryption method is going to be changed in 3.0, isn't it > too late to > suggest to convert password into UTF-8 before encryption? >Imagine two user environments on Linux, one has locale win1251 That's n

[Firebird-devel] Password encoding

2012-03-01 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov
Hello, All. Because password encryption method is going to be changed in 3.0, isn't it too late to suggest to convert password into UTF-8 before encryption? Imagine two user environments on Linux, one has locale win1251 and another utf-8. Password, containing non-Latin symbols, create