On 13-3-2015 20:09, Jim Starkey wrote:
MPL should never be used for Firebird code. It gives specific rights to
Netscape.
I have skimmed the MPL 1.0, 1.1 and 2.0 but as far as I can tell it
never assigns specific rights to Netscape or Mozilla. Could you point
out where it does this?
I can't
Indeed. The GPL is pathological. Sun developed a fantastic file system
called ZFS and released under a Sun open source license that requires, like
the Firebird licenses, that modifications be available under the same
license. But Linux integration would require some mods, the mods would
have to
On Mar 14, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl wrote:
I have skimmed the MPL 1.0, 1.1 and 2.0 but as far as I can tell it
never assigns specific rights to Netscape or Mozilla. Could you point
out where it does this?
In 1.0, the problems come in section 6. I haven't
Mpl 1.0 , 1.1 licenses are outdated and shouldn't be used for new code
http://opensource.org/licenses/do-not-use.html
The old versions had issues with gpl licenses
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses
MPL should never be used for Firebird code. It gives specific rights to
Netscape.
The IPL can't be changed. A new version of the IDPL could be created, but it
wouldn't apply to existing modules. And it will never be recognized by the
self-appointed Open Source Gods because they refuse to
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 03:09:04PM -0400, Jim Starkey wrote:
I can't see any reason to muck around with licenses at all. MPL 2.0 claim to
fame is that it's compatible with GPL, but at the moment approximately 100% of
Firebird is already incompatible with GPL -- and very little of it can be
Jim wrote:
MPL should never be used for Firebird code. It gives specific rights to
Netscape.
And another several interesting and valuable lessons of history. It's not
true that he had to talk me out of GPL. I knew that the goal of open source
InterBase was to provide tools for future
By all means, change the headers to point to a more stable license
repository, but don't change the license.
Perhaps, rather than point to a web URL that could die at any time, (and then
go through the process of changing the headers again), can't we simply:
- ensure that a copy of the
-Original Message-
From: Paul Beach [mailto:pbe...@ibphoenix.com]
Sent: Jueves, 05 de Marzo de 2015 12:07
The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license
originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the
InterBase code was
released with (as Ann and I devised
At 02:36 p.m. 7/03/2015, Claudio Valderrama C. wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Paul Beach [mailto:pbe...@ibphoenix.com]
Sent: Jueves, 05 de Marzo de 2015 12:07
The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license
originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the
The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we
hosted the original license that the InterBase code
was
released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise
license was slightly modified after release.
We also hosted the IDPL license
I wrote:
My recollection is that the IPL was worked out among Paul, me, Dale Fuller,
and a few others. The original Mozilla licenses gave ownership rights to
Netscape. We changed it to Inprise and its successors. When Firebird
launched as an independent entity, we (same crowd, minus
On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:38 AM, marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok understand , What i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 without any
changes to the license text like they did in the libreoffice case
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/COPYING.MPL
This will
At 09:16 p.m. 5/03/2015, marius adrian popa wrote:
While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ?
No. The source code we used for Firebird is licensed under MPL v.1.0. *That*
version of the source code, *that* version of the MPL.
Helen
05.03.2015 17:49, Paul Beach wrote:
I wasn't arguing about it - just pointing out some historical facts that were
valid at some time in the past.
So do I. I'm sorry if it looked like an offense.
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WBR, SD.
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05.03.2015 16:09, Dmitry Yemanov wrote:
Huh?
We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?..
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On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Paul Beach pbe...@ibphoenix.com wrote:
05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?..
I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it
would be better
if it is official
I'm thinking about the Firebird Initial Developer's Public License (based
on MPL v1.1)
For old headers still with old license we can incoporate them this way
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Re-Basing#What_does_your_license_header_look_like_.3F
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:33 AM,
On 05/03/2015 11:57, Leyne, Sean wrote:
05.03.2015 15:19, Leyne, Sean wrote:
The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero have not maintained the URL
location is not our problem.
What's the problem with broken IBPhoenix URL then?..
There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product'
05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?..
I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it
would be better
if it is official project's site URL, not IBPhoenix one.
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WBR, SD.
05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?..
I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it
would be better
if it is official project's site URL, not IBPhoenix one.
The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was
05.03.2015 17:07, Paul Beach wrote:
The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we
hosted the original license that the InterBase code was
released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise
license was slightly modified after release.
Ok understand , What i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 without any
changes to the license text like they did in the libreoffice case
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/COPYING.MPL
This will simplify the license understanding (no more idpl/ipl license text
forks of mpl
05.03.2015 15:38, marius adrian popa wrote:
Ok understand, what i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0
What is our benefit?
This will simplify the license understanding
Nope, it will only complicate understanding. Old modules have to remain
IPLed/IDPLed, so actually we'll be claiming
I don't think you can change the license for modules from individuals without
their permission. Vulcan modules explicitly forbid a change of license.
Jim Starkey
On Mar 5, 2015, at 4:16 AM, marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com wrote:
While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ?
Hi,
http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/licensing/
Regards,
Alexey
People,
http://www.ibphoenix.com/main.nfs?a=ibphoenixpage=ibp_idpl.
is pointing to nothing. We need to update the files in the repository to
point to the right location of the license or please suggest an alternative.
I think
Plese do and fix the urls
While there please replace the inprise.com with firebirdsql.org license
location
Absolutely not!!!
The original license must remain untouched, we did not create the original
files, we cannot change the license statement.
The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero
05.03.2015 15:19, Leyne, Sean wrote:
The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero have not maintained the URL
location is not our problem.
What's the problem with broken IBPhoenix URL then?..
There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product' of the project, as
such it can be
05.03.2015 15:57, Leyne, Sean wrote:
There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product' of the project,
as such it can be changed.
I just wonder why this product is on third-party site instead of
firebirdsql.org.
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WBR, SD.
05.03.2015 18:03, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
I just wonder why this product is on third-party site instead of
firebirdsql.org.
Huh?
http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/initial-developer-s-public-license-version-1-0
Dmitry
People,
http://www.ibphoenix.com/main.nfs?a=ibphoenixpage=ibp_idpl.
is pointing to nothing. We need to update the files in the repository to
point to the right location of the license or please suggest an alternative.
I think that only FB v3 matters.
C.
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Claudio Valderrama C.
Consultant, SW
http://www.ibphoenix.com/main.nfs?a=ibphoenixpage=ibp_idpl.
is pointing to nothing. We need to update the files in the repository to
point to the right location of the license or please suggest an alternative.
I think that only FB v3 matters.
ipl - http://www.ibphoenix.com/about/firebird/ipl
Plese do and fix the urls
While there please replace the inprise.com with firebirdsql.org license
location
https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/core/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93q=inprise.com
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Claudio Valderrama C. cva...@usa.net
wrote:
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