Re: [Fis] replies to several. The Key to Time

2011-05-24 Thread Ted Goranson
ave > the failure in meeting the flow continuity behind. The KaiC hexamers of > cyanobacteria are involved in the constant update of the prefect tense in the > progressive tense. This point is not one essential to my program. If we can usefully model the times and dynamics of the two worlds in integrated fashion, that is enough. We don't have to go further with the philosophical exercise of generating one from the other. Moreover, I question the wisdom of this because it assumes a priority. --Ted _ Ted Goranson tedgoran...@mac.com http://www.sirius-beta.com ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] ON INFORMATION THEORY--Mark Burgin

2011-04-09 Thread Ted Goranson
yes and no. I am intrigued by the notion introduced here recently that suggests "intelligence" as inhabiting this new, non-parametrizable space. --Ted _ Ted Goranson tedgoran...@mac.com http://www.sirius-beta.com _ Ted Goranson tedgoran...@mac.com http://www.sirius-b

[Fis] To Zhao, Yi Xin and Joseph

2011-03-11 Thread Ted Goranson
mment more on this after certain near term demands on her time relax. Again, I thank Yi Xin for the suggested expansion of our scope, and the inclusion of art (and story) from Zhao. --Ted _ Ted Goranson tedgoran...@mac.com http://www.sirius-beta.com ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] Poetry, Computers and Information - reply to Zhao

2011-03-03 Thread Ted Goranson
to consider formal issues of information, for the purposes of system > design. This swerve in career was the result of involvement in a US > project, which aimed to address fundamental problems with computer > reasoning. That program was run by Ted Goranson, who is also a member of >

[Fis] A Metacomment

2008-06-26 Thread Ted Goranson
tations, order, emergence. In the worst case, the product will be a crisp description of the different options, approaches and philosophies with possible test protocols. If we are scientists, and as passionate and insightful as the discussion shows, we may as well get serious,

[Fis] Info, meaning & narrative

2007-10-12 Thread Ted Goranson
nly shared that their shape is difficult to detect). Of course they all overlap, and we adjust favourite stories as new situations arise. Narrative perspective is a system of prisms and lenses, with the angles from one body of information informing the angles of the next. If th

[Fis] The Goals and Worlds

2007-10-06 Thread Ted Goranson
. Somehow, I think the biologists and chemists may be worth listening to on this, but that may be just a "religious" view. But itdoes seem that this cusp of introspective apparent selfishness implicit in Pedro's and Walter's posts has merit. I read St

Re: [Fis] about fis discussions (2)

2007-06-13 Thread Ted Goranson
>Pedro Marijuan wrote on 6/6/07: >... >Fifteen years from now FIS started its public activities. >... >Well, we are now close to 170 in the list >... >Indeed a reflection on FIS itself would be convenient at the time >being, and probably it will take place amongst the next sessions >... > >Overall

[Fis] Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail

2007-03-19 Thread Ted Goranson
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:42:32 -0400 To: fis@listas.unizar.es From: Ted Goranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Fis] Mind, matter, meaning and information Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Welcome Robin. You can do little better than

[Fis] Re: Continuing Discussion of Social and Cultural Complexity

2007-02-07 Thread Ted Goranson
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:04:05 -0500 To: fis@listas.unizar.es From: Ted Goranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Fis] Re: Continuing Discussion of Social and Cultural Complexity --- Igor Matutinovic wrote on 2/5/07: Ted wrote: I do believe that there are limits to comp

Re: [Fis] Re: Continuing Discussion of Social and Cultural Complexity

2007-02-02 Thread Ted Goranson
and just what complexity is all about and what happens when the threshold of management is exceeded. -Best, Ted -- __ Ted Goranson Sirius-Beta ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es http://webmail.unizar.es/mailman/listinfo/fis

[Fis] FIS--nature of complexity

2006-12-18 Thread Ted Goranson
Let me provide my entry in this very interesting kickoff. Wondering about the nature of complexity is a great starting issue, I think. A reminder of where I am coming from: I believe that we will soon begin serious work on creating a new science that leverages information as a primitive and

Re: [Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description

2006-06-11 Thread Ted Goranson
est, Ted -- __________ Ted Goranson Sirius-Beta ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es http://webmail.unizar.es/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] QUANTUM INFORMATION

2006-06-03 Thread Ted Goranson
point here is as stated at the beginning, that "ontological precedence" is key in unwrapping how QM and information inform each other, if I can use such a reflexive notion. Best, Ted -- __ Ted Goranson Sirius-Beta ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es http://webmail.unizar.es/mailman/listinfo/fis

[Fis] The Identity of ProtoEthics

2006-04-27 Thread Ted Goranson
ink we might say something useful about protoethics or whatever we wish to call them. When we make the switch from ordinary particle/noun representations to Ted's urge/verb ones, most thing are turned inside out. The urges become the agents, messages transform but some basic mechanics of information should be the same in both paradigms. I presume this to include the protoethic. Sorry for the long message. Best, Ted -- __ Ted Goranson Sirius-Beta ___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es http://webmail.unizar.es/mailman/listinfo/fis

Re: [Fis] General Question: Definition of information

2006-04-27 Thread Ted Goranson
it places my mind in the world as an agent in some way as a citizen. With this, I can then use the vehicle of whatever science of information that results to "carry" notions (presumably retailored ones) like ethics to cells and particles, and understand both why and how I swim in th