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2016-04-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Lou and Colleagues, On 16 Apr 2016, at 06:57, Louis H Kauffman wrote: Dear Maxine Sheets-Johnstone, I would like to make a remark on your comment below. "(4). References made to Gödel’s theorem to uphold certain theses can be definitively questioned. The claim that Gödel makes on

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2016-04-18 Thread Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov
Dear All, I think that in the context of what Maxine, Lou, Soeren and others exchanged a little while ago it makes sense to refer to Kalevi Kull’s paper in the Biosemiotics section V of this collection below which initiated our discussion: 2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life

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2016-04-17 Thread Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov
Dear Maxine, Lou, Pedro, Loet, John, Soeren and Colleagues, first of all I wish to thank Maxine for providing a bit different perspective upon the overall subject of the discussion theme, namely phenomenology or better said “phenomenological philosophy” (since “phenomenology” has acquired

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2016-04-17 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Lou and colleagues, The reasoning is very clear. Thank you. (…) At this point the being has attained linguistic self-reference. The being can say “I am the meta-name of my own naming process.” This nexus or fixed point of self-reference can occur naturally in a being that has

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2016-04-16 Thread Louis H Kauffman
Dear Maxine Sheets-Johnstone, I would like to make a remark on your comment below. "(4). References made to Gödel’s theorem to uphold certain theses can be definitively questioned. The claim that Gödel makes on behalf of his theorem is inaccurate. Three articles that demonstrate the inaccuracy,

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2016-04-03 Thread Christophe
Dear Soren, Thanks for these details on the Peircean approach. You write that ‘the concept of experience and meaning does not exist in the vocabulary of the theoretical framework of natural sciences'. Would you consider the modeling of meaning generation (MGS in previous post) and the linking

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2016-04-02 Thread Louis H Kauffman
Dear Soren, I want to make a further comment on "It thus seems obvious that Bateson's “pattern that con­nects” includes the phenomeno­logical-emotional dimen­sion in its concept of mind but viewed as computational thoughts of relation, not as first person experiences. Cybernetics does not

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2016-04-02 Thread Louis H Kauffman
Dear Soren, If you were to read the dialogues with Mary Catherine Bateson (as a child) and Gregory Bateson in “Steps to an Ecology of Mind”, you might change your notion of what sort of view of the observer is being studied in cybernetics. It is all, through and through about a feeling for and

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2016-04-02 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Caro Louis e Cari Tutti, tutta la mia più che cinquantennale ricerca si basa proprio sull'informazione semiotica unita all'informazione naturale o termodinamica, genetica e matematica. Anzi ho incontrato e conosciuto Pedro, se non ricordo male, il 17-22 setmbre 2002 ad Acireale (Catania) si è

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2016-04-01 Thread Louis H Kauffman
Dear Soren and Folks, I have included some comments inside Soren’s introduction. Best, Lou K. > > Infobiosemiotics > > Søren Brier, CBS > This discussion aims at contributing to the definition of a universal concept > of information covering objective as well as subjective experiential and >