Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture

2015-02-19 Thread Bob Logan
I join Pedro in thanking all of the participants of the Deacon conversation - I enjoyed it and would love to receive more comments off line - Bob __ Robert K. Logan Prof. Emeritus - Physics - U. of Toronto Chief Scientist - sLab at OCAD http://utoronto.academia.edu/RobertKLog

[Fis] Concluding the Lecture

2015-02-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, February is well advanced, and it is time to put a definite end to the New Year Lecture. We have had a very interesting discussion time, though rather silent in these final days. It was nice counting with Terry chairmanship, he has had a very hard work with all those resp

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture? - In Praise of Teleodynamics

2015-02-05 Thread Bob Logan
Dear FiSers - I am glad that Pedro has allowed this discussion to continue for a a couple of more days so I can share two items of my work that relate to Terry's teleodynamic-based project. 1. One item is a paper I co-authored with Stuart Kauffman and others entitled The Propagation of Organiza

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture? - In Praise of Teleodynamics

2015-02-04 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
No problem Bob, we can prolong the NY Lecture some extra days. My concern was the overload that these final messages ---more intense and argumentative-- could be causing on Terry's time budget. It is upon him whether he wants to continue responding in the current regime for instance until Febru

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture? - In Praise of Teleodynamics

2015-02-03 Thread Bob Logan
Dear Pedro, Terry and Fellow FISers - I was composing the email below when your email appeared asking us not to respond any further to Terry's final remarks. I disagree with this arbitrary cutoff as I was about to send out what follows below. It also seems an abridgement of free speech to ask

[Fis] Concluding the Lecture!

2015-02-03 Thread pedro marijuan
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Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-31 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
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Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-31 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
January 30, 2015 3:07 PM To: Pedro C. Marijuan Cc: 'fis' Subject: Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture? Thanks Pedro for your remarks. We have not reached our destination as you point out but the important thing is to enjoy the journey which I certainly have. It is inevitable that wi

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Krassimir Markov
: Friday, January 30, 2015 7:31 PM To: Bob Logan Cc: fis Subject: Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture? Thanks to Pedro and Bob for these last few comments. Indeed, like Darwin in 1859 we are still just beginning to formulate "one long argument" that will need to be progressively refined in the

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Thanks to Pedro and Bob for these last few comments. Indeed, like Darwin in 1859 we are still just beginning to formulate "one long argument" that will need to be progressively refined in the decades to come. The question is where best to begin the task of synthesizing. I too find the metaphor of s

Re: [Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Bob Logan
Thanks Pedro for your remarks. We have not reached our destination as you point out but the important thing is to enjoy the journey which I certainly have. It is inevitable that with such a slippery concept as information that there will be different destinations depending on the travellers but

[Fis] Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Terry and colleagues, At your convenience, during the first week of February or so we may put an end to the ongoing New Year Lecture --discussants willing to enter their late comments should hurry up. Your own final or concluding comment will be appreciated. Personally, my late comment