RE: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5

2007-02-16 Thread Stanley N. Salthe
Replying to Pedro, who said: Those hierarchical schemes that with a few categories cover realms and realms of knowledge have an undeniable allure --but are they useful? S: This depends upon the meaning of useful. As my work is in Natural Philosophy, they are useful there in the sense of

RE: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5

2007-02-09 Thread Pedro Marijuan
Dear colleagues, Maybe I should postpone these comments and have a careful reading of Bob's paper, John's list of bionfo articles, and the many well-crafted arguments exchanged these days---but as usual one is overwhelmed... On the discussion track about complexity info limits (followed by

RE: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5

2007-02-07 Thread Stanley N. Salthe
Replying to LOET, who said: Dear colleagues,I agree with most of what is said, but it does not apply to social systems because these -- and to a lesser extent also psychological ones -- operate differently from the hierarchical formations that are generated naturally. That is why we

Re: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5

2007-02-05 Thread John Collier
Hi folks, I'll take a few minutes from my moving and dealing with academic emergencies at UKZN to make a comment here. Jerry brings up a point that keeps arising in the literature one constraints and information. Recall that Shannon said that they are the same thing. That is a clue. Loet and I

Re: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5

2007-02-05 Thread Stanley N. Salthe
This is my reply to Jerry (acknowledging that John's reply to Jerry below says it as well as -- probably better than -- I can), who said: Stan's comment deserves to be attended to. The many complexities facing us as society can be parsed as follows, using a specification hierarcy: {physical

RE: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5

2007-02-05 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5 Hi folks, I'll take a few minutes from my moving and dealing with academic emergencies at UKZN to make a comment here. Jerry brings up a point that keeps arising in the literature one constraints and information. Recall

Re: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5

2007-02-05 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
] [mailto:fis- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Collier Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:18 PM To: Jerry LR Chandler; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Re: fis Digest, Vol 501, Issue 5 Hi folks, I'll take a few minutes from my moving and dealing with academic emergencies at UKZN