RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread The Helmsman
Of Arseniy Shklyaev Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they didnt work when publish to 8

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arseniy Shklyaev Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? I did

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread dan
mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? I started to hate it! And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Søren Christensen
I skipped that :/ habit with the transition to flash 5 back then. But sometimes between bigger projects, flash banner campaigns lands on my table and for the most part they need to be compiled in flash 6 format. But after some testing it is not limited to flash 6 but is also 7 and 8 exported as

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Muzak
PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? I cant believe someone really understand a reason of hate something. Usually if you think something as a reason

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread T. Michael Keesey
On 2/14/07, The Helmsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to hate it! And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO FLASH 9. There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, which is only Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet. The closed Flash 9 Beta (Blaze) has been going on for a few months now. You're talking about the public

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? What people keep missing

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Steven Sacks | BLITZ
Adobe calls it Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview Fair enough, though in my defense, I didn't capitalize it as if it was the actual. I just described it. Still not a beta. ;) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? Adobe calls it Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview Fair enough, though in my defense, I didn't capitalize it as if it was the actual. I just described it. Still not a beta

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Gustavo Duenas
Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO FLASH 9. There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, which is only Flash 8 with a Flash

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Chris Allen
On 2/13/07, Johannes Nel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: drugs help LOL classic Johannes! On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I dont know why. ___

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-14 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
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[Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
Anyone hate flash 9 already? -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Alias™
Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? Curious, Alias On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone hate flash 9 already? -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? Curious, Alias On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread eka
Hello :) Flash 9 ? or AS3 ? Flash 9 is only in alpha version... We can't hate Flash9 because don't exist lol AS3 is the best solution for the moment to develop web richmedia application for me ! But we can't compare FP9, flash9 and AS3 ... EKA+ :) 2007/2/13, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Ian Thomas
No. No I don't. I think it's come on in leaps and bounds. Especially for games. Here are a couple of immediate headliners which make Flash 9 so much better for game coding: - Speed. AS3 is _fast_. - Sensible display list/tree. No more attachMovie/removeMovieClip, no more worrying about copying

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Paul Andrews
know why. Paul - Original Message - From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
that irritates you? If people hate something they generally know why. Paul - Original Message - From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Muzak
Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! Actually, no we don't. Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? This list is

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Johannes Nel
: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you be more

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Johannes Nel
Message - From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
something they generally know why. Paul - Original Message - From: Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Matthias Dittgen
We love Flash! And we hate Flash! That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-) 2007/2/13, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone hate flash 9 already? -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread James Marsden
ditto :) Matthias Dittgen wrote: We love Flash! And we hate Flash! That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive:

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
Those could help me. I m just found it yestarday. If I post here looking for coders can I found someone? I tried to find some ppl in Russia but even if I found I dont like them anyone. So does this is not under rules to post here of looking for ppl to make games with or hire someone(dont have

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Daniel Riemslag
an interesting post ;) http://positionrelative.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/craigs-pissed/ .. looking for coders..dont have enough money to hire ppl yet.. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive:

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Danny Kodicek
Those could help me. I m just found it yestarday. If I post here looking for coders can I found someone? I tried to find some ppl in Russia but even if I found I dont like them anyone. So does this is not under rules to post here of looking for ppl to make games with or hire

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread dan
I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English people :) shalom ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there. Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess. On 2/13/07, dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English people :) shalom

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Ian Thomas
*hangs a large Do Not Feed The Troll sign on this thread.* On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there. Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess.

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
Ah Craig List. that u mean about I have no money yet :D lol Yeah. Really. It fits. The only thing could make u think I m not trying to catcha that u can look into a games I made myself. And I will take GFX SFX music part on myself. Could this community help me more than flashkit boards? I even

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Sebastian Mohr
Without Flash 9 and Actionscript 3 your beloved Flash would fade away ... looking ahead to Big M and their WPF/E stuff. Adobe/Macromedia had to speed up the Flash runtime and so they compel the flash developer to have more programming skills. cheers, masu On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev [EMAIL

RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Toby
Could this community help me more than flashkit boards? This is another world. I would advise against any further comparison. So actually I hate not flash/AS1,2,3 itself but my progress around _ There isn’t anything you can do about this other than read more and try and work with more people.

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Jon Bradley
Isn't there a flash newbie list? On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote: Ah Craig List. that u mean about I have no money yet :D lol Yeah. Really. It fits. The only thing could make u think I m not trying to catcha that u can look into a games I made myself. And I will take

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Søren Christensen
well utf8 support is taking care of that already :-) On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:09 PM, dan wrote: I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English people :) shalom ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Søren Christensen
Now speaking about flash 9 - I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player: flash 6 to 8 swf files with as1 or keyframe animation just performs slower. If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9 i need to export them with more or less the double framete before fp9

Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?

2007-02-13 Thread Arseniy Shklyaev
U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /: instead of _parent and _root On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now