Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
On 2/13/07, Johannes Nel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: drugs help LOL classic Johannes! On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I > dont > know why. > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
my advise to the guy complaining against the beta release of flash 9get a job in adobe labs or wait until its release. ciao. On Feb 14, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets you publish as Flash 9. No, I am not and yes, I am. Adobe calls it "Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview", not "public patch for Flash 8 that lets you publish as Flash 9. " ;) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning & Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:42 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO "FLASH 9". There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, which is only Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet. The closed Flash 9 Beta (Blaze) has been going on for a few months now. You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets you publish as Flash 9. If the OP is sharing information about Blaze on this list, he's breaking the NDA. This alone is probably pushing it. *duck* ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com Gustavo Duenas ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
>>Still not a beta. ;) Right :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning & Organizational Effectiveness >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:55 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? >> >>>Adobe calls it "Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview" >> >>Fair enough, though in my defense, I didn't capitalize it as >>if it was the actual. I just described it. >> >>Still not a beta. ;) >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >> ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
>Adobe calls it "Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview" Fair enough, though in my defense, I didn't capitalize it as if it was the actual. I just described it. Still not a beta. ;) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
>>You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets >>you publish as Flash 9. No, I am not and yes, I am. Adobe calls it "Flash 9 Professional Actionscript 3.0 Preview", not "public patch for Flash 8 that lets you publish as Flash 9. " ;) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning & Organizational Effectiveness >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:42 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? >> >>> What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO "FLASH 9". >>> There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, >>which is only >>> Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet. >> >>The closed Flash 9 Beta (Blaze) has been going on for a few >>months now. >>You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets >>you publish as Flash 9. >> >>If the OP is sharing information about Blaze on this list, >>he's breaking the NDA. This alone is probably pushing it. >>*duck* ___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >> ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
> What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO "FLASH 9". > There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, which > is only Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet. The closed Flash 9 Beta (Blaze) has been going on for a few months now. You're talking about the public patch for Flash 8 that lets you publish as Flash 9. If the OP is sharing information about Blaze on this list, he's breaking the NDA. This alone is probably pushing it. *duck* ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
On 2/14/07, The Helmsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I started to hate it! And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a release :) Actually, AS3 has awesome documentation. It's just not integrated into the Flash 9 alpha release. Go here: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/langref/ -- T. Michael Keesey Director of Technology Exopolis, Inc. 2894 Rowena Avenue Ste. B Los Angeles, California 90039 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
>>What flash 9 needs is a good help file and examples like in >>the ide of flash >>8 >>Then things will start to clear up :) I hope What people keep missing here is THERE IS NO "FLASH 9". There is the Flash 9 player, there is the Flash 9 beta, which is only Flash 8 with a Flash 9 player compiler, but no Flash 9 yet. No offense, but I think actual "hate" of Flash primarily (though not always) comes from lack of knowledge, understanding and skill. :) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
Please read this: http://osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette Keep it coding There are plenty of other places to talk about general Flash topics, and even more places to talk about non-Flash topics. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? I cant believe someone really understand a reason of hate something. Usually if you think something as a reason then it is an aliby or something to leave you to think you are rigth. Yes. There is some reasons really could be told like bad happens or something. But for Flashkit boards I m not sure. Maybe I m too selfish maybe my eenglich was bad. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
I skipped that :/ habit with the transition to flash 5 back then. But sometimes between bigger projects, flash banner campaigns lands on my table and for the most part they need to be compiled in flash 6 format. But after some testing it is not limited to flash 6 but is also 7 and 8 exported as AS2. Though it seems to be a osx intel issue only. Just pretty weird that the the fp8 inside flash 8 via rosetta is performing better than the native fp9 Some as3 examples i have seen here and there performs rather bad as well - anything less than around 60 fps or the elements move with very jerky motion, movements that would have been smooth with max 30fps in fp8- (it is not a cpu/ram issue - the workstation is loaded) Cheers >B) Søren On 13/02/07 23:25, "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? > I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they > didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /: > instead of _parent and _root ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
What flash 9 needs is a good help file and examples like in the ide of flash 8 Then things will start to clear up :) I hope -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Helmsman Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:10 AM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? I started to hate it! And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a release :) BTW... You wrote: " Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... ". May I ask you why? Igor Vasiliev a.k.a. The Helmsman Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arseniy Shklyaev Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /: instead of _parent and _root On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Now speaking about flash 9 - > > I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player: > > flash 6 to 8 swf files with as1 or keyframe animation just performs > slower. > If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9 i need to > export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows > them rather ok. > > at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player. > > Have anybody experienced something similar? > > Cheers, > >B) Søren > > On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote: > > > Why to be specific in such a question? > > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > > > On 2/13/07, Alias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > >> > >> Curious, > >> Alias > >> > >> On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > -Arseniy Shklyaev > >> > ___ > >> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > >> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > > >> > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > >> > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > >> > http://www.figleaf.com > >> > http://training.figleaf.com > >> > > >> ___ > >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> To change your subscription options or search the archive: > >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > >> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > >> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > >> http://www.figleaf.com > >> http://training.figleaf.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
I cant believe someone really understand a reason of hate something. Usually if you think something as a reason then it is an aliby or something to leave you to think you are rigth. Yes. There is some reasons really could be told like bad happens or something. But for Flashkit boards I m not sure. Maybe I m too selfish maybe my eenglich was bad. On 2/14/07, The Helmsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I started to hate it! And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a release :) BTW... You wrote: " Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... ". May I ask you why? Igor Vasiliev a.k.a. The Helmsman Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arseniy Shklyaev Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /: instead of _parent and _root On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Now speaking about flash 9 - > > I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player: > > flash 6 to 8 swf files with as1 or keyframe animation just performs > slower. > If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9 i need to > export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows > them rather ok. > > at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player. > > Have anybody experienced something similar? > > Cheers, > >B) Søren > > On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote: > > > Why to be specific in such a question? > > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > > > On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > >> > >> Curious, > >> Alias > >> > >> On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > -Arseniy Shklyaev > >> > ___ > >> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > >> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > > >> > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > >> > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > >> > http://www.figleaf.com > >> > http://training.figleaf.com > >> > > >> ___ > >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> To change your subscription options or search the archive: > >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > >> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > >> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > >> http://www.figleaf.com > >> http://training.figleaf.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subs
RE: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
I started to hate it! And I know many others, but hate is a little bit strong word, the more correctly to call it - I'm not comfortable with it yet. May be because it lacks good documentation and still alpha. My only hope it will change with a release :) BTW... You wrote: " Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... ". May I ask you why? Igor Vasiliev a.k.a. The Helmsman Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arseniy Shklyaev Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:26 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /: instead of _parent and _root On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Now speaking about flash 9 - > > I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player: > > flash 6 to 8 swf files with as1 or keyframe animation just performs > slower. > If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9 i need to > export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows > them rather ok. > > at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player. > > Have anybody experienced something similar? > > Cheers, > >B) Søren > > On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote: > > > Why to be specific in such a question? > > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > > > On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > >> > >> Curious, > >> Alias > >> > >> On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > -Arseniy Shklyaev > >> > ___ > >> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > >> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > > >> > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > >> > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > >> > http://www.figleaf.com > >> > http://training.figleaf.com > >> > > >> ___ > >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > >> To change your subscription options or search the archive: > >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > >> > >> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > >> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > >> http://www.figleaf.com > >> http://training.figleaf.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
U mean u publish them for player 8 with AS1? I did published my 6 player games from 8 flash as for 6 player too. Cua they didnt work when publish to 8 player but I thought it was cuz I used ../: /: instead of _parent and _root On 2/14/07, Søren Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now speaking about flash 9 - I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player: flash 6 to 8 swf files with as1 or keyframe animation just performs slower. If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9 i need to export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows them rather ok. at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player. Have anybody experienced something similar? Cheers, >B) Søren On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote: > Why to be specific in such a question? > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? >> >> Curious, >> Alias >> >> On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Anyone hate flash 9 already? >> > >> > -- >> > -Arseniy Shklyaev >> > ___ >> > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >> > To change your subscription options or search the archive: >> > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> > >> > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >> > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >> > http://www.figleaf.com >> > http://training.figleaf.com >> > >> ___ >> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >> http://www.figleaf.com >> http://training.figleaf.com >> > > > > -- > -Arseniy Shklyaev > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
Now speaking about flash 9 - I am experiencing some odd behaviors with fp9 player: flash 6 to 8 swf files with as1 or keyframe animation just performs slower. If i want my animations to move just as smooth in the fp9 i need to export them with more or less the double framete before fp9 shows them rather ok. at least it is an issue on my intel mac with the newest fp9 player. Have anybody experienced something similar? Cheers, >B) Søren On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote: Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? Curious, Alias On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > -- > -Arseniy Shklyaev > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
well utf8 support is taking care of that already :-) On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:09 PM, dan wrote: I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English people :) shalom ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Isn't there a flash newbie list? On Feb 13, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Arseniy Shklyaev wrote: Ah Craig List. that u mean about I have no money yet :D lol Yeah. Really. It fits. The only thing could make u think I m not trying to catcha that u can look into a games I made myself. And I will take GFX SFX music part on myself. Could this community help me more than flashkit boards? I even afraid to post anything here really that is question about actionscript itself :\ Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... So actually I hate not flash/AS1,2,3 itself but my progress around >_< On 2/13/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *hangs a large "Do Not Feed The Troll" sign on this thread.* On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there. > Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess. > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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> Could this community help me more than flashkit boards? This is another world. I would advise against any further comparison. > So actually I hate not flash/AS1,2,3 itself but my progress around >_< There isnt anything you can do about this other than read more and try and work with more people. This isnt the best place for easy questions either, I do recommend > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashnewbie Please dont spam this list :¬) Toby ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Without Flash 9 and Actionscript 3 your beloved Flash would fade away ... looking ahead to Big M and their WPF/E stuff. Adobe/Macromedia had to speed up the Flash runtime and so they compel the flash developer to have more programming skills. cheers, masu On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone hate flash 9 already? -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Ah Craig List. that u mean about I have no money yet :D lol Yeah. Really. It fits. The only thing could make u think I m not trying to catcha that u can look into a games I made myself. And I will take GFX SFX music part on myself. Could this community help me more than flashkit boards? I even afraid to post anything here really that is question about actionscript itself :\ Every post on flashkit and similar just make me angree... So actually I hate not flash/AS1,2,3 itself but my progress around >_< On 2/13/07, Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *hangs a large "Do Not Feed The Troll" sign on this thread.* On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there. > Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess. > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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*hangs a large "Do Not Feed The Troll" sign on this thread.* On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there. Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I m not easy person but my ideas much better than most of games out there. Also this is good to be offensive for director/producer I guess. On 2/13/07, dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English people :) shalom ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I wish apon a star that flash 9 will have RTL text for us non English people :) shalom ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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> Those could help me. > I m just found it yestarday. If I post here looking for > coders can I found someone? > I tried to find some ppl in Russia but even if I found I dont > like them anyone. > So does this is not under rules to post here of looking for > ppl to make games with or hire someone(dont have enough money > to hire ppl yet) Wow, you're really selling yourself as a potential collaborator so far :) Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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an interesting post ;) http://positionrelative.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/craigs-pissed/ >.. looking for coders..dont have enough money to hire ppl yet.. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Those could help me. I m just found it yestarday. If I post here looking for coders can I found someone? I tried to find some ppl in Russia but even if I found I dont like them anyone. So does this is not under rules to post here of looking for ppl to make games with or hire someone(dont have enough money to hire ppl yet) On 2/13/07, James Marsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ditto :) Matthias Dittgen wrote: > We love Flash! And we hate Flash! > That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-) > > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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ditto :) Matthias Dittgen wrote: We love Flash! And we hate Flash! That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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We love Flash! And we hate Flash! That's why we read [Flashcoders]. :-) 2007/2/13, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Anyone hate flash 9 already? -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Dont like drugs BTW. Sure. I know. A lirical one. It is bout coding too tho. There was answers bout coding so it is OK On 2/13/07, Johannes Nel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: drugs help On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I > dont > know why. > > On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for > > sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else > do > > it. > > > > On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, > so > > > > > > we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! > > > > > > Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it > > > specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? > > > > > > If people hate something they generally know why. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > - Original Message ----- > > > From: "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: "Flashcoders mailing list" < flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > > > > > > Why to be specific in such a question? > > > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > > > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > > > > > On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > > > > > > > Curious, > > > > Alias > > > > > > > > On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > > > ___ > > > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > > > -- > -Arseniy Shklyaev > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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for depression. it might make you like something again On 2/13/07, Johannes Nel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: drugs help On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I > dont > know why. > > On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for > > > sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else > do > > it. > > > > On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others > questions, so > > > > > > we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! > > > > > > Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it > > > specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? > > > > > > If people hate something they generally know why. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To: "Flashcoders mailing list" < flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > > > > > > Why to be specific in such a question? > > > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > > > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > > > > > On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > > > > > > > Curious, > > > > Alias > > > > > > > > On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > > > ___ > > > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > > > -- > -Arseniy Shklyaev > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
drugs help On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I dont know why. On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for > sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else do > it. > > On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so > > > > we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! > > > > Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it > > specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? > > > > If people hate something they generally know why. > > > > Paul > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: "Flashcoders mailing list" < flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > > > Why to be specific in such a question? > > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > > > On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > > > > > Curious, > > > Alias > > > > > > On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > > ___ > > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > -- > -Arseniy Shklyaev -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
> Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so > we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! > Actually, no we don't. > Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it > specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? > This list is about (or should be about) flash coding. http://osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette http://osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette#keep_it_coding regards, Muzak ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
BTW. I dont know why I hate things. For example I hate my parents and I dont know why. On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else do it. On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so > > we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! > > Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it > specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? > > If people hate something they generally know why. > > Paul > > - Original Message - > From: "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: "Flashcoders mailing list" < flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > Why to be specific in such a question? > I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. > Perhaps cuz I do only games... > > On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > > > Curious, > > Alias > > > > On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > > > -- > > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > > ___ > > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > > http://www.figleaf.com > > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > > > > -- > -Arseniy Shklyaev > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- -Arseniy Shklyaev -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
I guess I just tired of it. I m wrong perhaps. I m tired of coding for sure. I m more designer/composer and I code my games just cuz who else do it. On 2/13/07, Paul Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? If people hate something they generally know why. Paul - Original Message - From: "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" < flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > Curious, > Alias > > On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
Well you have some reason and you don't mind asking others questions, so we'd like to know what it is that is making you think like that! Is it that you're getting fed up of flash in general, or what is it specifically about flash 9 that irritates you? If people hate something they generally know why. Paul - Original Message - From: "Arseniy Shklyaev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already? Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > Curious, > Alias > > On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
No. No I don't. I think it's come on in leaps and bounds. Especially for games. Here are a couple of immediate headliners which make Flash 9 so much better for game coding: - Speed. AS3 is _fast_. - Sensible display list/tree. No more attachMovie/removeMovieClip, no more worrying about copying things around from parent to parent just to get the damned thing to layer correctly. - Decent bitmap manipulation routines. (Yes, I know they've been there since 8, but you're saying you hate flash 'more and more', so...) From a general production/development PoV, my headline item has to be: - Command line compiler, at last. (Yes, we had MTASC before, but...) Other than that, there's been a sensible reorganisation of the libraries, a tightening up on standard ways to do things, and just a general neatening up. I'd love to see better shared font support and better sound support, but really, I think it's improved vastly since MX04 (or, in fact, since I started with v5). And I think the Macromedia/Adobe attitude has improved hugely too. Ian On 2/13/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > Curious, > Alias ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
Hello :) Flash 9 ? or AS3 ? Flash 9 is only in alpha version... We can't hate Flash9 because don't exist lol AS3 is the best solution for the moment to develop web & richmedia application for me ! But we can't compare FP9, flash9 and AS3 ... EKA+ :) 2007/2/13, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? > > Curious, > Alias > > On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > > > -- > > -Arseniy Shklyaev > > ___ > > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > > http://www.figleaf.com > > http://training.figleaf.com > > > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
Why to be specific in such a question? I just dont like flash more and more. Intuitive feel. Perhaps cuz I do only games... On 2/13/07, Alias™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? Curious, Alias On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone hate flash 9 already? > > -- > -Arseniy Shklyaev > ___ > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > To change your subscription options or search the archive: > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > > Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software > Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training > http://www.figleaf.com > http://training.figleaf.com > ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
Could you be more specific as to why one might do so? Curious, Alias On 13/02/07, Arseniy Shklyaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone hate flash 9 already? -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Anyone hate flash 9 already?
Anyone hate flash 9 already? -- -Arseniy Shklyaev ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
