[Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
Progressive download Im not sure how Yotube works other than that to be honest. Though if yor looking to build a youtube id use flex and some ruby scripts or wait fro http://osflash.org/red5 from osflash and work with that thats supports streaming rather than progressive download but is currently only in beta. Have a look at flex 2 as well it has the possibility of creating a youtube clone though progressive download. Any job's for flash developers in cardiff wales? contact me i need work. (shameless plug here www.Garethgwyther.co.uk) Good luck either way. Gareth Gwyther www.Garethgwyther.co.uk ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
As far as I'm aware it's progressive. Streaming would require the use of a streaming server and even from a cost perspective this is VERY prohibitive. FC Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
Thanks a lot sean http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flv_download_03.html According to page mentioned above Progressive download is a perfect use for hobbyists or websites that have low traffic requirements and only need to deliver short videos. How YouTube is handling the large traffic with progressive download? Regards Sumeet kumar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:07 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs As far as I'm aware it's progressive. Streaming would require the use of a streaming server and even from a cost perspective this is VERY prohibitive. FC Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
Streaming would require the use of a streaming server http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2005/11/2/Streaming-flv-video-via-PHP-take-two from a cost perspective this is VERY prohibitive. http://code.google.com/p/haxevideo/ http://www.osflash.org/red5 On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm aware it's progressive. Streaming would require the use of a streaming server and even from a cost perspective this is VERY prohibitive. FC Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
Its progressive download, Google Video uses streaming... You can check it by jumping forward to a certain point in an unloaded clip and check if it loads from the start of the video till that point, or if it loads from that point on... the latter is streaming ;) How YouTube is handling the large traffic with progressive download? I think you should read a bit more about what the differences are between progressive download and streaming, I think you'll get it then... ;) Cheers, Cay Sumeet Kumar escribió: Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
Any reference from where I can read this difference in detail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cay Garrido H. Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:47 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs Its progressive download, Google Video uses streaming... You can check it by jumping forward to a certain point in an unloaded clip and check if it loads from the start of the video till that point, or if it loads from that point on... the latter is streaming ;) How YouTube is handling the large traffic with progressive download? I think you should read a bit more about what the differences are between progressive download and streaming, I think you'll get it then... ;) Cheers, Cay Sumeet Kumar escribió: Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
', Google Video uses streaming.' they use pseudo streaming. check the link i posted before. On 4/10/07, Cay Garrido H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its progressive download, Google Video uses streaming... You can check it by jumping forward to a certain point in an unloaded clip and check if it loads from the start of the video till that point, or if it loads from that point on... the latter is streaming ;) How YouTube is handling the large traffic with progressive download? I think you should read a bit more about what the differences are between progressive download and streaming, I think you'll get it then... ;) Cheers, Cay Sumeet Kumar escribió: Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
they have a lot of servers and tons of bandwidth. progresive is just a normal http transfer. stefan richter (www.flashcomguru.com) also pointed out to me a while a go how to terminate an exisiting http download (you tell the netstream to load a file that does not exisist and handle your netstream not found error) On 4/10/07, Sumeet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any reference from where I can read this difference in detail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cay Garrido H. Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:47 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs Its progressive download, Google Video uses streaming... You can check it by jumping forward to a certain point in an unloaded clip and check if it loads from the start of the video till that point, or if it loads from that point on... the latter is streaming ;) How YouTube is handling the large traffic with progressive download? I think you should read a bit more about what the differences are between progressive download and streaming, I think you'll get it then... ;) Cheers, Cay Sumeet Kumar escribió: Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flv_download_03.html Any reference from where I can read this difference in detail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cay Garrido H. Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 5:47 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs Its progressive download, Google Video uses streaming... You can check it by jumping forward to a certain point in an unloaded clip and check if it loads from the start of the video till that point, or if it loads from that point on... the latter is streaming ;) How YouTube is handling the large traffic with progressive download? I think you should read a bit more about what the differences are between progressive download and streaming, I think you'll get it then... ;) Cheers, Cay Sumeet Kumar escribió: Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
The youtube video player is apparently based on (or very similar to) Jeroen Wijering's free(for noncommercial use) player: http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=flash_video_player HTH, Alias On 10/04/07, Sumeet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
I might be wrong but I thought Google video used progressive download (not real streaming) but used some sort oh PHP script to allow moving forward to a part in the video that hasn't downloaded yet. Stephan Richter describes how to do this on his blog. - Original Message From: Cay Garrido H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:16:59 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs Its progressive download, Google Video uses streaming... You can check it by jumping forward to a certain point in an unloaded clip and check if it loads from the start of the video till that point, or if it loads from that point on... the latter is streaming ;) How YouTube is handling the large traffic with progressive download? I think you should read a bit more about what the differences are between progressive download and streaming, I think you'll get it then... ;) Cheers, Cay Sumeet Kumar escribió: Hi All Can any one tell me what YouTube is using for playing the flv's? Progressive download or Video Streaming. Regards Sumeet Kumar ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] You Tube + Progressive download of flvs
As others have mentioned, progressive download is just a file like a 5MB Jpeg as far as the browser is concerned. The reason youtube can get away with this is the majority of content is small (a few minutes) and heavily replayed so progressive is a much better deal. Google on the other hand has some hour long videos and wants to index them so jumping around makes sense. Streaming - need to be able to jump to any point: not needed in youtube, most videos are small, played from start to finish - care about DRM - have extra overhead for streaming media servers - don't care as much about repeat plays (since nothing is ever cached on the harddrive...ever, every second of video has to come from the server) Progressive - no need to jump ahead of what's downloading - can use conventional edge servers (e.g. akamai) with normal webservers to accelerate downloads - want to avoid replay bandwidth costs. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
